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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Trump made a massive play for the blue collar vote, and was very succesful.
    The health of blue collar workers tends to be worse than for white collar workers, as a massive factor in health is wealth.

    Not all of the blue collar vote.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Trump made a massive play for the blue collar vote, and was very succesful.
    The health of blue collar workers tends to be worse than for white collar workers, as a massive factor in health is wealth.

    Don't get swayed by the narrative. The people you refer to were the swing voters (hence the basis of the victory) but not the bulk of the voters....
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,919
    40 year olds will get boosters.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Does anybody know the gap between jabs for school kids?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    rick_chasey said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    rick_chasey said:



    Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?

    Been to Houston and I can assure you, the rich (white) guys there do not vote democrat.
    I never said they did. You inferred that only rich people vote GOP. Which is self-evidently not the case. That's all.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,919
    surrey_commuter said:

    Does anybody know the gap between jabs for school kids?

    They only get one.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Does anybody know the gap between jabs for school kids?

    They only get one.
    many thanks

    he is so enthusiastic for jabs that he now wants the chicken pox one
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,919
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Does anybody know the gap between jabs for school kids?

    They only get one.
    many thanks

    he is so enthusiastic for jabs that he now wants the chicken pox one
    Lots of possibilities.

    If he hasn't had chickenpox he can have two of them. It's a sensible investment for you.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    TheBigBean said:

    40 year olds will get boosters.

    I read that in a mock German ww2 officer accent - must have been reading too many Facebook Covid conspiracy posts.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Austria are putting the unvaccinated back into lockdown. Not sure how they'll enforce it but can you imagine the uproar if we tried that in the UK? There's enough pushback to the Covid passport schemes.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    Pross said:

    Austria are putting the unvaccinated back into lockdown. Not sure how they'll enforce it but can you imagine the uproar if we tried that in the UK? There's enough pushback to the Covid passport schemes.

    Topic came up at a family gathering over the weekend.
    Those in their 20s say fake passports are very easy to achieve.

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    Austria are putting the unvaccinated back into lockdown. Not sure how they'll enforce it but can you imagine the uproar if we tried that in the UK? There's enough pushback to the Covid passport schemes.

    Topic came up at a family gathering over the weekend.
    Those in their 20s say fake passports are very easy to achieve.

    Not as easy as real ones surely.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    edited November 2021
    kingstongraham said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    Austria are putting the unvaccinated back into lockdown. Not sure how they'll enforce it but can you imagine the uproar if we tried that in the UK? There's enough pushback to the Covid passport schemes.

    Topic came up at a family gathering over the weekend.
    Those in their 20s say fake passports are very easy to achieve.

    Not as easy as real ones surely.
    Not much harder, and more convenient if you are anti-vaxxer or simply can't be bothered getting a jab.

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Does anybody know the gap between jabs for school kids?

    They only get one.
    many thanks

    he is so enthusiastic for jabs that he now wants the chicken pox one

    I think it's in the news this morning that the older school children will get 2nd jabs, at 12-16 weeks.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    Just got my booster done this morning. It was Moderna.

    There was a bit of a queue (10-15 mins, I'd guess) for the drop-in people; I'd pre-booked via the website, and the queue was one person. And I got Moderna'd one week before my six-month interval, which wouldn't have happened if I'd just dropped in (though it looks like that will change very shortly).

    Apparently, the booster won't appear on the NHS app as an additional 'Covid Pass' yet - so it remains to be seen what happens, say in France, if their 'pass sanitaire' requires boosters to be registered.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    edited November 2021
    Re: USA.

    I read someone saying about masks that they'd rather our kind of culture war about masks than one about vaccines which is what they have.

    Because Biden is pro vaccine mandate, republicans (and Fox News) are anti. (Ironically, Fox has a vaccine/testing/mask mandate in its own buildings.) It's spilling over to existing vaccines.



    Basically, they'd have many more people die in order to maintain a political advantage. When they are all vaccinated themselves.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    kingstongraham said:

    Re: USA.

    I read someone saying about masks that they'd rather our kind of culture war about masks than one about vaccines which is what they have.

    Because Biden is pro vaccine mandate, republicans (and Fox News) are anti. (Ironically, Fox has a vaccine/testing/mask mandate in its own buildings.) It's spilling over to existing vaccines.


    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    briantrumpet said:




    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".

    "Use to" is correct in that context in American English.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    kingstongraham said:

    briantrumpet said:




    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".

    "Use to" is correct in that context in American English.
    Just goes to show that they don't know how quasi defective modal verbs work.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    briantrumpet said:




    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".

    "Use to" is correct in that context in American English.
    Just goes to show that they don't know how quasi defective modal verbs work.

    Or maybe I don't.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/used-to

    It's not a form I'd use anyway... I'd probably use "used not to".
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  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,495
    Had booster on the 11th of October (44 year old with NHS staff discount) Now come down with the buggger. Can't get warm, coughing and streaming nose. Not happy, especially as I can WFH :D:D
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    briantrumpet said:




    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".

    "Use to" is correct in that context in American English.
    Just goes to show that they don't know how quasi defective modal verbs work.
    You of all people, Brian, :) should know that American English is generally a throwback to the way we use(d) to speak rather than an innovation.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    kingstongraham said:

    Re: USA.

    I read someone saying about masks that they'd rather our kind of culture war about masks than one about vaccines which is what they have.

    Because Biden is pro vaccine mandate, republicans (and Fox News) are anti. (Ironically, Fox has a vaccine/testing/mask mandate in its own buildings.) It's spilling over to existing vaccines.



    Basically, they'd have many more people die in order to maintain a political advantage. When they are all vaccinated themselves.
    they have not thought this one through
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    surrey_commuter said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Re: USA.

    I read someone saying about masks that they'd rather our kind of culture war about masks than one about vaccines which is what they have.

    Because Biden is pro vaccine mandate, republicans (and Fox News) are anti. (Ironically, Fox has a vaccine/testing/mask mandate in its own buildings.) It's spilling over to existing vaccines.



    Basically, they'd have many more people die in order to maintain a political advantage. When they are all vaccinated themselves.
    they have not thought this one through
    Indeed. 😁
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,230
    briantrumpet said:



    Apparently, the booster won't appear on the NHS app as an additional 'Covid Pass' yet - so it remains to be seen what happens, say in France, if their 'pass sanitaire' requires boosters to be registered.

    My Pfizer last Wednesday appeared on the NHS app listed under the GP records / medicines section, batch # etc. But that section isn't always accessible; e.g. checked just now and there's nothing showing at all. Screen grab when it is?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    orraloon said:

    briantrumpet said:



    Apparently, the booster won't appear on the NHS app as an additional 'Covid Pass' yet - so it remains to be seen what happens, say in France, if their 'pass sanitaire' requires boosters to be registered.

    My Pfizer last Wednesday appeared on the NHS app listed under the GP records / medicines section, batch # etc. But that section isn't always accessible; e.g. checked just now and there's nothing showing at all. Screen grab when it is?

    I'll be keeping my little booster jab card safely for now. But I'll try a screen grab if/when, so I can go in for un allongé at Christmas, one way or another.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    briantrumpet said:




    Side note - that should be "It didn't used to be".

    "Use to" is correct in that context in American English.
    Just goes to show that they don't know how quasi defective modal verbs work.
    You of all people, Brian, :) should know that American English is generally a throwback to the way we use(d) to speak rather than an innovation.

    That's one that's snuck up on me.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    surrey_commuter said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Re: USA.

    I read someone saying about masks that they'd rather our kind of culture war about masks than one about vaccines which is what they have.

    Because Biden is pro vaccine mandate, republicans (and Fox News) are anti. (Ironically, Fox has a vaccine/testing/mask mandate in its own buildings.) It's spilling over to existing vaccines.



    Basically, they'd have many more people die in order to maintain a political advantage. When they are all vaccinated themselves.
    they have not thought this one through
    It's an inspired Democrat long game.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Wife's Covid passport shows all three jabs. Not sure if the Welsh system is different.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    Pross said:

    Wife's Covid passport shows all three jabs. Not sure if the Welsh system is different.


    Well, hot off the (Guardian) press, anyway:

    Johnson says boosters will be included in NHS Covid travel pass data
    Q: Will the booster dose be added to the NHS Covid travel pass, and when?

    Johnson says this will happen.

    He says, getting fully vaccinated with a booster, will make travel easier. This is yet another reason to get this done.
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