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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,372
    orraloon said:

    Ben6899 said:


    If you're organised, it's just like pre-pandemic, but you have to show vaccine status - physical document - to the French passport people. Which is obviously no worries.

    Hadn't clocked that physical check. Ok, will print off the various bits on paper. How old school. Ta for info.

    You probably read that news item about when the NHS app went down for a few hours and (I think) hundreds of people missed flights because they couldn't prove their vaccine status at the border. New school ain't always foolproof. Well, neither is paper, but it's a little more predictable.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,230
    True. But screengrab backup, show the picture, no difference in status of an image captured at specific time to piece of paper printed at specific time. Hey ho, best get that HP thing working agsin.
  • Austria is in lockdown. Germany is going that way too. Wales and Ireland are bringing in harder restrictions. Buckle up Dorothy Kansas is going bye bye
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847

    Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,918
    edited November 2021
    Just booked my booster for exactly 6 months. I'm under 50. Getting closer with each jab. Down to 0.3 miles.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847

    Just booked my booster for exactly 6 months. I'm under 50. Getting closer with each jab. Down to 0.3 miles.


    Did you get a text message to tell you that you could book? Just curious as I’m in the same age bracket.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,372
    edited November 2021

    Just booked my booster for exactly 6 months. I'm under 50. Getting closer with each jab. Down to 0.3 miles.


    They probably reckon as you're that bit older now you won't make it all the way to the centres that bit further away ;)
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,918

    Just booked my booster for exactly 6 months. I'm under 50. Getting closer with each jab. Down to 0.3 miles.


    Did you get a text message to tell you that you could book? Just curious as I’m in the same age bracket.
    Just tried at random and it let me. Apparently they will make an announcement on Monday.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,562
    Would be nice to have a vaccination centre within 20 miles, and a walk-in that didn't suddenly change to appointments only on the day. We wasted a 40 mile round trip to Salisbury this afternoon trying to get the 17 yo his second jab ahead of going to France. Thursday night the website said walkins all day. Get there this afternoon to be told appointments only. We were far from the only ones to be caught out according to the security staff.
    For tomorrow there isn't a walk-in centre within 35 miles of us!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yes I had that with jab one - was a 40 min drive each way.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Can't see Boris putting us back into a lockdown after seeing what is happening over on the continent. He'd rather see people dying than looking unpopular with people rioting on the streets.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    And a huge demonstration in Sydney.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • Yes I had that with jab one - was a 40 min drive each way.

    Did both mine in the Grafton centre
  • Just booked my booster for exactly 6 months. I'm under 50. Getting closer with each jab. Down to 0.3 miles.

    That’s good. We need everyone to get jabbed to prevent anymore lockdown shenanigans in England.
  • Pross said:

    Can't see Boris putting us back into a lockdown after seeing what is happening over on the continent. He'd rather see people dying than looking unpopular with people rioting on the streets.

    I think you’re right too. Unless he’s point blank ordered to by the scientists, he won’t. However, he’s been ( pretty much ) ordered to lockdown previously. I hope for the best, but expect the worst.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    Pross said:

    Can't see Boris putting us back into a lockdown after seeing what is happening over on the continent. He'd rather see people dying than looking unpopular with people rioting on the streets.

    I remember reading similar posts last year.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    They say you learn something new every day. Today I have learned that scientists are able to order the Government around.
  • Pross said:

    They say you learn something new every day. Today I have learned that scientists are able to order the Government around.

    They pretty much do at present.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited November 2021
    Yes, that's why all the pubs reopened against their guidance and they didn't lockdown early enough in any of the waves so far.
  • Pross said:

    Yes, that's why all the pubs reopened against their guidance and they didn't lockdown early enough in any of the waves so far.

    They’re a law unto themselves.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,606
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    Can't see Boris putting us back into a lockdown after seeing what is happening over on the continent. He'd rather see people dying than looking unpopular with people rioting on the streets.

    I remember reading similar posts last year.
    This time last year he was a lot more popular with his own party.

    So far the numbers are holding steady at uncomfortable but not outrageous. With the delta varient I reckon you'd need a pretty severe lockdown to have a good impact on numbers...sure you can close pubs but, I'd see a lot of people just breaking rules and going round each others houses. Basically getting the worst economic impacts with less of the beneficial impact on disease spread.

  • Ncovidius said:

    Pross said:

    They say you learn something new every day. Today I have learned that scientists are able to order the Government around.

    They pretty much do at present.
    At 13:05 you categorically states that scientists could order the PM to lockdown yet by 15:18 you had u-turned to “pretty much do”

    Why no explanation for the dramatic change of heart in just 2 hours and 13 minutes
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,372

    At 13:05 you categorically states that scientists could order the PM to lockdown yet by 15:18 you had u-turned to “pretty much do”

    Why no explanation for the dramatic change of heart in just 2 hours and 13 minutes


    To try to get a reaction. But you knew that.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Ncovidius said:

    Pross said:

    They say you learn something new every day. Today I have learned that scientists are able to order the Government around.

    They pretty much do at present.
    At 13:05 you categorically states that scientists could order the PM to lockdown yet by 15:18 you had u-turned to “pretty much do”

    Why no explanation for the dramatic change of heart in just 2 hours and 13 minutes
    Suggests the Government aren't responsible for Government policies, back tracks on their comments and talks bollox all the time. It's pretty obvious he's a Government minister.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,372
    School cases rocketing up in Devon again. The half-term effect gives very clear indication of how pivotal schools are in assisting its spread. One can only assume that the Government is delighted at the resumption, the only surprise being that they didn't suggest extra half term school activities in small, poorly ventilated rooms to carry on the 'herd immunity' drive.


  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    School cases rocketing up in Devon again. The half-term effect gives very clear indication of how pivotal schools are in assisting its spread. One can only assume that the Government is delighted at the resumption, the only surprise being that they didn't suggest extra half term school activities in small, poorly ventilated rooms to carry on the 'herd immunity' drive.


    That's those damned scientists making ordering the Government to get schools back open when they didn't really want to.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    Can't see Boris putting us back into a lockdown after seeing what is happening over on the continent. He'd rather see people dying than looking unpopular with people rioting on the streets.

    I remember reading similar posts last year.
    They weren't watching riots in other European countries last year though.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,230
    This time last year nobody had been vaccinated. This year is different. Just because repetitive testing of superspreaders-of-everything schoolkids shows, surprise,
    positive tests does not mean we get waves of dead pensioners. Unless they're idiots refusing protection in which case get out of the gene pool.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,372
    orraloon said:

    This time last year nobody had been vaccinated. This year is different. Just because repetitive testing of superspreaders-of-everything schoolkids shows, surprise,
    positive tests does not mean we get waves of dead pensioners. Unless they're idiots refusing protection in which case get out of the gene pool.


    Yes, I'm ambivalent about the policy now. Germany is suggesting that the delta variant is going to find all cracks/vectors, and if the mortality rate is vaguely under control and ICU/deaths mostly confined to the unvaccinated (and not overwhelming hospitals), I can see why there might be an argument for 'controlled' spread.

    Of course, there are enormous risks if some aspect has been overlooked, but if you put the better-vaccinated countries against one of the others, it does suggest that the vaccines are actually doing an impressive job. With other drugs coming on-line too, it is starting to look like it's going to be a thing we can (mostly) live with, in time.