The big Coronavirus thread

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,230
    I'll see your covidiot as per above and raise you proper full on covwaynekers

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-59274090

    The God particle!
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    To be fair my eldest daughter had a change of taste and I've known a few of my kids' friends who reported loss or change of taste/smell .

    Personally I presume I've probably had it at some point seeing as at least two people in this house have but if I have I couldn't say I noticed.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    To be fair my eldest daughter had a change of taste and I've known a few of my kids' friends who reported loss or change of taste/smell .

    Personally I presume I've probably had it at some point seeing as at least two people in this house have but if I have I couldn't say I noticed.

    Sure, it's definitely a symptom in some people but the original comment was it was the defining comment and then, when challenged, that everyone he knows who had Covid lost their sense of taste.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 585
    orraloon said:

    I'll see your covidiot as per above and raise you proper full on covwaynekers

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-59274090

    The God particle!

    That report is worrying and sad I think.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,606
    Slightly concerned about the reports of operation rampdown. I think there is a happy medium between consistently having the spectre of lockdown, and getting rid of all covid infrastructure. This feels like the government still haven't worked out that its not them who decide when the pandemic is over...
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Tesco Christmas ad hasn't gone down well in some quarters


    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • I suspect that figures like this are behind the government's announcement that boosters are going to be given from 5 months now.


    When did they say this?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Interesting thread.

    Touches on a lot of what we've discussed here, but never really seemed to be reflected in policy making

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374

    I suspect that figures like this are behind the government's announcement that boosters are going to be given from 5 months now.


    When did they say this?

    Yesterday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/13/millions-of-people-across-uk-to-be-offered-covid-booster-jabs-earlier

    The government is to allow people to have their Covid booster jab after five months, a month sooner than under the current policy, in an effort to help stop the NHS becoming overwhelmed this winter.

    This major change to the vaccination programme could see ministers flouting the advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which recommends that people wait until six months after their second dose before having their top-up in order to maximise protection.

    It is unclear whether the policy would apply only in England or across the four home nations.

    It means millions of Britons will be able to have their booster sooner than expected to reduce the risk of hospitals failing to cope with large numbers of people becoming seriously ill with Covid during the winter months, when they always come under intense pressure.

    Anyone across the UK in cohorts one to nine – the priority groups that include frontline health and social care workers, millions with underlying health problems and all adults over 50 – will be able to book their extra vaccine once the change is formally announced.

    Fears that waning immunity from the impact of second doses wearing off could fuel a surge in Covid hospital admissions in the coming months have prompted ministers to act.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Tesco Christmas ad hasn't gone down well in some quarters

    Apparently, milemuncher has already cancelled his Tesco's Xmas ready-meal...

  • We are proper screwed. Hang on to your hats.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    What the cut off for testing for rona?

    So say the contact with rona person was on Tuesday, if I keep testing negative on lateral flows with no symptoms by x then it’s pretty clear I don’t have it
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374

    What the cut off for testing for rona?

    So say the contact with rona person was on Tuesday, if I keep testing negative on lateral flows with no symptoms by x then it’s pretty clear I don’t have it


    Sounds likely. Maybe that's a benefit of your having been vaccinated later than us oldies... your immunity hasn't waned as much ;)
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    edited November 2021

    What the cut off for testing for rona?

    So say the contact with rona person was on Tuesday, if I keep testing negative on lateral flows with no symptoms by x then it’s pretty clear I don’t have it

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveytechnicalarticle/wavesandlagsofcovid19inenglandjune2021#:~:text=This%20is%20estimated%20to%20last,11.5%20days%20of%20infection.&ved=2ahUKEwjrs7WD3pj0AhUNa8AKHUhfC20QFnoECAcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3kR7i0TE74aIhEoGYSZZnV

    Incubation period is 1-14 days. Vast majority show symptoms by 11.5 days if infected. Not sure how that translates to LFD tests.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,606

    Interesting thread.

    Touches on a lot of what we've discussed here, but never really seemed to be reflected in policy making

    Feel like this should be a bit of an outrage...
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    Jezyboy said:

    Interesting thread.

    Touches on a lot of what we've discussed here, but never really seemed to be reflected in policy making

    Feel like this should be a bit of an outrage...

    It seems to reinforce the notion in the Guardian article I linked that suggested that the focus on Hands & Face was to divert attention away from the more expensive and institution-focused ventilation question, so they can blame us as individuals for not behaving properly.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,172


    Either I need stronger glasses or that is a meaningless array of pixels.
  • I suspect that figures like this are behind the government's announcement that boosters are going to be given from 5 months now.


    When did they say this?

    Yesterday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/13/millions-of-people-across-uk-to-be-offered-covid-booster-jabs-earlier

    The government is to allow people to have their Covid booster jab after five months, a month sooner than under the current policy, in an effort to help stop the NHS becoming overwhelmed this winter.

    This major change to the vaccination programme could see ministers flouting the advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which recommends that people wait until six months after their second dose before having their top-up in order to maximise protection.

    It is unclear whether the policy would apply only in England or across the four home nations.

    It means millions of Britons will be able to have their booster sooner than expected to reduce the risk of hospitals failing to cope with large numbers of people becoming seriously ill with Covid during the winter months, when they always come under intense pressure.

    Anyone across the UK in cohorts one to nine – the priority groups that include frontline health and social care workers, millions with underlying health problems and all adults over 50 – will be able to book their extra vaccine once the change is formally announced.

    Fears that waning immunity from the impact of second doses wearing off could fuel a surge in Covid hospital admissions in the coming months have prompted ministers to act.
    So they haven't announced it yet?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661


    Either I need stronger glasses or that is a meaningless array of pixels.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463


    Either I need stronger glasses or that is a meaningless array of pixels.
    I can't really read it but think the gist is that if you voted Trump in 2020 you are more likely to die of Covid.

    Not sure if this is a proof of divine retribution or that Trump voters are thicko anti-vaxxers.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,562
    Pross said:


    Either I need stronger glasses or that is a meaningless array of pixels.
    I can't really read it but think the gist is that if you voted Trump in 2020 you are more likely to die of Covid.

    Not sure if this is a proof of divine retribution or that Trump voters are thicko anti-vaxxers.
    Or were poorer blue collar workers who's health isn't as good as those wealthier....
    or most likely, a combination of factors.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited November 2021

    Pross said:


    Either I need stronger glasses or that is a meaningless array of pixels.
    I can't really read it but think the gist is that if you voted Trump in 2020 you are more likely to die of Covid.

    Not sure if this is a proof of divine retribution or that Trump voters are thicko anti-vaxxers.
    Or were poorer blue collar workers who's health isn't as good as those wealthier....
    or most likely, a combination of factors.
    Since when were republican voters poorer?

    You are right that Republican voters tend to be older, so that will have an impact. It is not that pronounced.

    Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.




    It might be to do with lack of education

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/02/the-changing-composition-of-the-electorate-and-partisan-coalitions/



  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    The graph isn't showing that Trump voters are more likely to die of Covid it's showing that areas with higher Trump vote have higher Covid death rates.

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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028



    Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?



  • Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?

    There's a lot of people live in cities who don't have much, and cities overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

    63 percent of voters earning less than $15,000 vote Democrat. 36% of voters earning over $200,000 vote Democrat. The tipping point is about $50,000.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028



    Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?

    There's a lot of people live in cities who don't have much, and cities overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

    63 percent of voters earning less than $15,000 vote Democrat. 36% of voters earning over $200,000 vote Democrat. The tipping point is about $50,000.
    There is a tendency for urban voters - regardless of wealth - to vote dem. The point I'm making is that Trump's 'poor, low-educated' voter turnout was huge. And still is. The inference that 'only rich people vote GOP' is a massive red herring.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661



    Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?

    Been to Houston and I can assure you, the rich (white) guys there do not vote democrat. Voting democrat there is for poor people and ethnic minorities.


  • Republican voters are usually richer than dem voters.

    You've not been to any of the southern states then..?

    There's a lot of people live in cities who don't have much, and cities overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

    63 percent of voters earning less than $15,000 vote Democrat. 36% of voters earning over $200,000 vote Democrat. The tipping point is about $50,000.
    There is a tendency for urban voters - regardless of wealth - to vote dem. The point I'm making is that Trump's 'poor, low-educated' voter turnout was huge. And still is. The inference that 'only rich people vote GOP' is a massive red herring.
    It's a red herring you invented.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,562
    Trump made a massive play for the blue collar vote, and was very succesful.
    The health of blue collar workers tends to be worse than for white collar workers, as a massive factor in health is wealth.