The big Coronavirus thread
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I was replying to Capt Slog railing against shops selling bedding plants. I can't stand gardening myself, but it keeps my m-i-l saneelbowloh said:
DIY shops have also been told to stay open haven't they?mrfpb said:Gardening is for some people is what cycling is to me, the activity that keeps them sane. Any activity that people can do at home should be a priority. As was pointed out upthread, off-licenses are apparently essential. And nobody has banned smoking or tobacco sales in the middle of a respiratory health epidemic. Go, go, gardeners, I say.
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My wife has had similar news about one of her uncles. He has dementia, had a fall, now in hospital and has covid 19.elbowloh said:So, my nan is in hospital after a fall. She already had a chest infection (bacteria), but has tested positive for Covid-19 also. She was already living with cancer in her kidney, so this might be the final straw...and no one can visit her.
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Surely you're not going to deny the big lad both his pies and his w@nking?? That's just inhumane...Stevo_666 said:
He won't need bog roll either if he's not eating.kingstongraham said:If you are a bit large, they'll stop you, and say that you could do with a diet anyway. No food is essential for you, porky. Get your loo rolls and be gone.
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Good point, bog roll is a multi-use product for somemrb123 said:
Surely you're not going to deny the big lad both his pies and his w@nking?? That's just inhumane...Stevo_666 said:
He won't need bog roll either if he's not eating.kingstongraham said:If you are a bit large, they'll stop you, and say that you could do with a diet anyway. No food is essential for you, porky. Get your loo rolls and be gone.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Very sorry to hear that elbowloh. Fingers crossed she makes it home.elbowloh said:So, my nan is in hospital after a fall. She already had a chest infection (bacteria), but has tested positive for Covid-19 also. She was already living with cancer in her kidney, so this might be the final straw...and no one can visit her.
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It seems this is a new way of announcing death figures:"On its own the latest figure of 765 newly-announced deaths from coronavirus does not tell the full story.
So far NHS England has announced 7,248 deaths in hospitals, but its daily updates also revise previous days' figures."
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In Canada and parts of the US, if you score too high on the police's intelligence test at interview, you don't get to the next stage. The job itself seems to be self-selecting here.morstar said:It’s interesting to get a look at the mindset of somebody in a position of authority but having had no media training.
Unguarded, despotism just desperate to be put into action. Imagine if our politicians spoke so candidly.
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I love it when public figures say something like that when their previous comment is either very much not clear or clearly says something completely different.capt_slog said:He's had to 'backtrack' on this....
Nick Adderley
@NorthantsChief
To be clear on the shopping trolley issue: This is about essential and necessary journeys, not what’s in your trolley. I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not, but we may now probe the purpose of the journey.
Amazing and worrying. If you're going to make an official statement to the press, you'd think you'd get it correct the first time.0 -
Meanwhile in the USA, they are re-activating the "if you don't test, the number of positive tests goes down" strategy:
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It took a few days for my aunt's death certificate so yes there'll always be a lag. I believe someone said that the graphs that get posted take that into account.mrfpb said:It seems this is a new way of announcing death figures:
"On its own the latest figure of 765 newly-announced deaths from coronavirus does not tell the full story.
So far NHS England has announced 7,248 deaths in hospitals, but its daily updates also revise previous days' figures."0 -
I expect he meant every word of it when he said it otherwise why say it? Typical little tinpot dictator in a uniform who absolutely loved having all these new powers to boss people about bestowed on him. I expect he got the memo to back peddle from Downing Street after the negative reaction but watch out for more of this stuff in the future, and remember it when you report "low level crime" and anti social behaviour when we're back to normality and the Rozzers ignore you due to lack.of resources or some other bullsh1t excuse because now we know there's enough of them to boss the law abiding about and spy on them walking in the countryside or nose through their shopping trolleys.capt_slog said:He's had to 'backtrack' on this....
Nick Adderley
@NorthantsChief
To be clear on the shopping trolley issue: This is about essential and necessary journeys, not what’s in your trolley. I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not, but we may now probe the purpose of the journey.
Amazing and worrying. If you're going to make an official statement to the press, you'd think you'd get it correct the first time.
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To be fair, what impact do you think the shops being shut and noone leaving their homes is having on the thieving community?shortfall said:
I expect he meant every word of it when he said it otherwise why say it? Typical little tinpot dictator in a uniform who absolutely loved having all these new powers to boss people about bestowed on him. I expect he got the memo to back peddle from Downing Street after the negative reaction but watch out for more of this stuff in the future, and remember it when you report "low level crime" and anti social behaviour when we're back to normality and the Rozzers ignore you due to lack.of resources or some other bullsh1t excuse.capt_slog said:He's had to 'backtrack' on this....
Nick Adderley
@NorthantsChief
To be clear on the shopping trolley issue: This is about essential and necessary journeys, not what’s in your trolley. I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not, but we may now probe the purpose of the journey.
Amazing and worrying. If you're going to make an official statement to the press, you'd think you'd get it correct the first time.0 -
When you do eventually get back to the office, the kettle and everyone's screens will be gone though.kingstongraham said:
To be fair, what impact do you think the shops being shut and noone leaving their homes is having on the thieving community?shortfall said:
I expect he meant every word of it when he said it otherwise why say it? Typical little tinpot dictator in a uniform who absolutely loved having all these new powers to boss people about bestowed on him. I expect he got the memo to back peddle from Downing Street after the negative reaction but watch out for more of this stuff in the future, and remember it when you report "low level crime" and anti social behaviour when we're back to normality and the Rozzers ignore you due to lack.of resources or some other bullsh1t excuse.capt_slog said:He's had to 'backtrack' on this....
Nick Adderley
@NorthantsChief
To be clear on the shopping trolley issue: This is about essential and necessary journeys, not what’s in your trolley. I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not, but we may now probe the purpose of the journey.
Amazing and worrying. If you're going to make an official statement to the press, you'd think you'd get it correct the first time.0 -
I take on board what you're saying but it's hardly the point. It will live long in people's memories the sudden zeal some.of the police have found for enforcing their new and arbitrary powers to boss around the law abiding, when previously they were less than enthusiastic in targeting actual criminals and those ruining lives with anti social behaviour.kingstongraham said:
To be fair, what impact do you think the shops being shut and noone leaving their homes is having on the thieving community?shortfall said:
I expect he meant every word of it when he said it otherwise why say it? Typical little tinpot dictator in a uniform who absolutely loved having all these new powers to boss people about bestowed on him. I expect he got the memo to back peddle from Downing Street after the negative reaction but watch out for more of this stuff in the future, and remember it when you report "low level crime" and anti social behaviour when we're back to normality and the Rozzers ignore you due to lack.of resources or some other bullsh1t excuse.capt_slog said:He's had to 'backtrack' on this....
Nick Adderley
@NorthantsChief
To be clear on the shopping trolley issue: This is about essential and necessary journeys, not what’s in your trolley. I have been clear that we will not be judge and jury on what is an essential item or not, but we may now probe the purpose of the journey.
Amazing and worrying. If you're going to make an official statement to the press, you'd think you'd get it correct the first time.0 -
Even allowing for it being a 6 day old article, how does that compare to the UK's solo effort? (And we could have done both.) I heard about the 30 newly manufactured that were expected to be delivered this week.coopster_the_1st said:
Also I believe that the same scheme also purchased PPE, which has started to be delivered already.0 -
What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I am sure last week him or Whitty was saying a few hundred thousand, because I remember my uninformed guess was 5% or tenfold his numbertailwindhome said:0 -
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
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But haven't most supermarket chains set aside an hour between 8-10 am for oldies to shop? In which case there is little reason for them to be in a supermarket late in the afternoon.rjsterry said:
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
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Most of the old codgers round here seem to be choosing to pop into the local shop for their paper every morning as usual...rjsterry said:
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
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My parents are in exactly the position you describe but if I found out they were going to the shops like I mentioned then for the first time in our lives it would be role reversal, I'd be kicking their backsides and laying down some rules.rjsterry said:
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
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Nice to see that in these difficult times we are still all in this together.
As usual
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-mps-given-extra-10-000-each-for-home-working-expenses-w0h5sx99lThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
verylonglegs said:
My parents are in exactly the position you describe but if I found out they were going to the shops like I mentioned then for the first time in our lives it would be role reversal, I'd be kicking their backsides and laying down some rules.rjsterry said:
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
I’m the same as you.0 -
Mine are in their 80s and carried on as normal until Boris ordered a lockdown and have not left home since. I did have to do a few food runs as the silly fvckers had listened to Boris about not stocking up.kingstonian said:verylonglegs said:
My parents are in exactly the position you describe but if I found out they were going to the shops like I mentioned then for the first time in our lives it would be role reversal, I'd be kicking their backsides and laying down some rules.rjsterry said:
Most are probably not there by choice. Online delivery slots are still as rare as hen's teeth - even for over-70s - and the promised deliveries are pretty thin on the ground. My MiL's local chemist is not answering the phone nor providing any deliveries hence a queue of pensioners each morning.verylonglegs said:What I will say on the issue of supermarkets is that some of the wrinklies are not getting the message. I'm still going out to work everyday but in the interests of limiting my contacts with strangers I aim to get groceries once a week. Tonight was that day and yet at half past four in the afternoon I gave up noting how many others shopping were fairly obviously seventy or over. Some in pairs too, not one per househould as suggested. I could see from the uniforms that there were others who are still working away from home and not isolating and were also getting supplies at the end of the day and yet these old folk decide to mix with us rather than doing their shopping earlier in the day.
I’m the same as you.0 -
I wonder what percentage that implies for London. I think I read somewhere that 50% of the UK had swine flu and 85% of London did.tailwindhome said:0 -
Having made an essential journey in London today, I can confirm that there is a suprisingly large number of people out and about. I'd say Sunday levels in normal times.
I guess there are a lot of jobs that continue to be required such as security
Definitely higher level of mask usage.
Feels much nicer on a bike as it is easy to avoid people.
Would be a great time to ride around London and take some photos (noting that is probably not in the spirit of the lock down)0 -
It is indeed halcyon days for cycling. Traffic levels back to the 70s.
Enjoy that while you can. It won't last due to either lockdown or the reverse.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
