The big Coronavirus thread
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</ Welsh>blazing_saddles said:
A number of travel firms are prepared to heavily subsidise the cost of the tests. (TUI offering the amber test requirement package for £50) My annual travel insurance now offers Covid cover for countries not on the FOA green list.Dorset_Boy said:
I think you've answered the question with your statement about needing the tests (expensive) and isolation (expensive), plus travel insurance is unlikely to cover you.blazing_saddles said:
Besides having two jabs, several tests and a spell in isolation, what do you think needs to happen before summer holidays can resume?Dorset_Boy said:
Were you seriously expecting to go abroad this summer? Even if you'd had both jabs?rick_chasey said:What is currently getting on my radar is that most nations I want to go to will likely require both jabs to have happened to travel which means I will likely miss the summer season entirely.
Or don't you think they will return?
When you won't have to isolate in either direction and the costs of tests becomes negligible then overseas travel will become a realistic option. So when local vaccination programmes have reached appropriate levels, and local case numbers are sufficiently low.
Is that really likely before the end of August?
I think it's the required isolation that's the big hurdle.
Now, on the subject of vaccination levels, fanfare please.
A labour government!
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Plenty went abroad last summer too! I don't think it's unreasonable to have thought that vaccines, herd immunity and earlier winter lockdowns would have lead to a more normal ish summer.
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That desperately needs punctuation:ilovegrace said:What I would like to know is of the people who have died with Covid
What age are they were they vaccinated why have they died. Is the vaccine working or not. This madness needs to end.
What age are they? were they vaccinated? why have they died? Is the vaccine working or not?0 -
I think I read that there's no more available to Wales than the rest of the UK, but more of it has got into arms quicker. Better fulfillment of what's been made available by the UK procurement programme.0
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Would be interesting to see regional variations within Wales.kingstongraham said:I think I read that there's no more available to Wales than the rest of the UK, but more of it has got into arms quicker. Better fulfillment of what's been made available by the UK procurement programme.
A significant proportion live in a relatively small area.0 -
Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?================
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2nd Vac booked 5th June glad now thats out of the way.So Far!0
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What's this then, if not a (panic stricken) reaction to the Indian strain?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57102249
No leaving Wales this year, which is worse than last year. This despite having already vaccinated almost two thirds of the entire population and having a single figure infection rate. (here currently 1.4/100,000)
With any luck, next year it will be the Porthcawl mutation, (there are usually a few to be found there during July and August) and he'll be asking us to pile into Cardiff International ghost town to catch non existent planes to anywhere.
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Will Wales be open to non Welsh this summer?blazing_saddles said:
What's this then, if not a (panic stricken) reaction to the Indian strain?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57102249
No leaving Wales this year, which is worse than last year. This despite having already vaccinated almost two thirds of the entire population and having a single figure infection rate. (here currently 1.4/100,000)
With any luck, next year it will be the Porthcawl mutation, (there are usually a few to be found there during July and August) and he'll be asking us to pile into Cardiff International ghost town to catch non existent planes to anywhere.0 -
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.blazing_saddles said:
What's this then, if not a (panic stricken) reaction to the Indian strain?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57102249
No leaving Wales this year, which is worse than last year. This despite having already vaccinated almost two thirds of the entire population and having a single figure infection rate. (here currently 1.4/100,000)
With any luck, next year it will be the Porthcawl mutation, (there are usually a few to be found there during July and August) and he'll be asking us to pile into Cardiff International ghost town to catch non existent planes to anywhere.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.================
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It says you can leave Wales, but it might not be the best thing to do. Seems fair enough?blazing_saddles said:
What's this then, if not a (panic stricken) reaction to the Indian strain?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57102249
No leaving Wales this year, which is worse than last year. This despite having already vaccinated almost two thirds of the entire population and having a single figure infection rate. (here currently 1.4/100,000)
With any luck, next year it will be the Porthcawl mutation, (there are usually a few to be found there during July and August) and he'll be asking us to pile into Cardiff International ghost town to catch non existent planes to anywhere.0 -
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
I sympathise with the sentiment but not going more than 20 miles from home for 18 months is not entirely due to the rules is it?blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.
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Actually it mostly is.pangolin said:
I sympathise with the sentiment but not going more than 20 miles from home for 18 months is not entirely due to the rules is it?blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.
I have had a 5 mile lockdown followed firebreak lockdown, then by a lengthy borough lockdown (don't think you had those in England? ) before going back into the 5 month lockdown we are just coming out of.
There was a brief spell during last Summer but everywhere was packed to the rafters."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
snaploltoride said:2nd Vac booked 5th June glad now thats out of the way.
maybe we could go on Rick's holiday for him
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Tough call to blame it for December 2019.0
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My previous PB was 2.7 miles. I think last week I beat this due to one way systems on my bike. I think I made it as far as 3 miles. Strictly speaking, I think I should measure my PB as the crow flies though.blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.0 -
Ah fair enough. No borough or firebreak here, just the various national ones and tiers.blazing_saddles said:
Actually it mostly is.pangolin said:
I sympathise with the sentiment but not going more than 20 miles from home for 18 months is not entirely due to the rules is it?blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.
I have had a 5 mile lockdown followed firebreak lockdown, then by a lengthy borough lockdown (don't think you had those in England? ) before going back into the 5 month lockdown we are just coming out of.
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Reading that link NOTG posted, it's best to visit now if you are thinking about it, as potentially Drakeford could well close the door shortly.darkhairedlord said:
Will Wales be open to non Welsh this summer?blazing_saddles said:
What's this then, if not a (panic stricken) reaction to the Indian strain?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:Looks like BBC have not mentioned the Welsh/Drakeford reaction to the Indian strain that affects me, namely I now shouldn't be going to stay with my mum and sis next weekend, as "extended households" have been provisionally postponed until 7th June?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57102249
No leaving Wales this year, which is worse than last year. This despite having already vaccinated almost two thirds of the entire population and having a single figure infection rate. (here currently 1.4/100,000)
With any luck, next year it will be the Porthcawl mutation, (there are usually a few to be found there during July and August) and he'll be asking us to pile into Cardiff International ghost town to catch non existent planes to anywhere.
The current weather forecast is that it will rain until the last couple of days in May.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
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Is that Sunday to Saturday?TheBigBean said:
My previous PB was 2.7 miles. I think last week I beat this due to one way systems on my bike. I think I made it as far as 3 miles. Strictly speaking, I think I should measure my PB as the crow flies though.blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.0 -
Ironically my PB is 200 miles to North Wales.TheBigBean said:
My previous PB was 2.7 miles. I think last week I beat this due to one way systems on my bike. I think I made it as far as 3 miles. Strictly speaking, I think I should measure my PB as the crow flies though.blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.0 -
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Not sure what you mean. It is distance from home since March last year.kingstongraham said:
Is that Sunday to Saturday?TheBigBean said:
My previous PB was 2.7 miles. I think last week I beat this due to one way systems on my bike. I think I made it as far as 3 miles. Strictly speaking, I think I should measure my PB as the crow flies though.blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.0 -
Oh, wow.TheBigBean said:
Not sure what you mean. It is distance from home since March last year.kingstongraham said:
Is that Sunday to Saturday?TheBigBean said:
My previous PB was 2.7 miles. I think last week I beat this due to one way systems on my bike. I think I made it as far as 3 miles. Strictly speaking, I think I should measure my PB as the crow flies though.blazing_saddles said:
I haven’t been more than 20 miles from home in 18 months and I am starting to feel like I am incarcerated in an open prison.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
Earlier this week, the BBC article on Welsh changes said extended households could form from Monday 17th May (it had its own "red dot bullet point"), that link you provided (one I read earlier) doesn't appear to state that extended households has now been postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/wales-delays-further-easing-covid-rules-amid-india-variant-fears link I read earlier alerted me to this crutial change of plan.
Quickly losing faith in the vaccines too as they seem to have made zero difference to how we deal with Covid.
Can’t see a way out of this to be honest because every mutation is going to set things back again and it’s going to mutate because that’s what virus do.
Ironically, mine is a trip to Wales.0 -
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My understanding is currently that from Monday, most if not all conventional overnight holiday options are open to anyone going over the Welsh border and for those that live in Wales already.darkhairedlord said:Will Wales be open to non Welsh this summer?
My problem is I cannot really justify turning a trip to see family in Wales into a holiday, spending ~£40 a night at say a Premier Inn, especially while my better half is feeling too ill with long Covid to travel up with me. Fortunately my work rota gives me a 5-day "long weekend" every four weeks, so the plan is now to visit family and stay in their home in June.
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Yes , I know.veronese68 said:
That desperately needs punctuation:ilovegrace said:What I would like to know is of the people who have died with Covid
What age are they were they vaccinated why have they died. Is the vaccine working or not. This madness needs to end.
What age are they? were they vaccinated? why have they died? Is the vaccine working or not?
Only managed a cse grade 2 in English circa 1978 ,
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can't you stay in their home from Monday?N0bodyOfTheGoat said:
My understanding is currently that from Monday, most if not all conventional overnight holiday options are open to anyone going over the Welsh border and for those that live in Wales already.darkhairedlord said:Will Wales be open to non Welsh this summer?
My problem is I cannot really justify turning a trip to see family in Wales into a holiday, spending ~£40 a night at say a Premier Inn, especially while my better half is feeling too ill with long Covid to travel up with me. Fortunately my work rota gives me a 5-day "long weekend" every four weeks, so the plan is now to visit family and stay in their home in June.
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