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This the leftie bashing thread..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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What is most illuminating about good old Tony 9 years into the job berating the Tories for being less than clear about Nuclear. At no point did he go to his record prior and since where he knew energy security was a problem and did nothing about it. What's worse than that is he obviously knows they need long term planning and commitment from his statement yet could not deliver a cohesive energy policy. At least dodgy Dave had the excuse of the financial crash to influence his priorities.rick_chasey said:0 -
The financial crisis was 2007-2008.
Dodgy Dave became Prime Minister on 11/05/2010 so, meh.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Always someone else's fault.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I have been pretty clear that we have seen failure of UK governments for the last 30 years in having no clear energy policy. The only policy they have had is to leave it to the market even when it is patently obvious the market cannot efficiently fund these capital projects. People putting up videos of Tony Blair as if he knew what he was doing is embarrassing.rjsterry said:Always someone else's fault.
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Good that you have come round to my way of thinking that the government of this country in recent years are useless. Past, present, and I dare say future.john80 said:
I have been pretty clear that we have seen failure of UK governments for the last 30 years in having no clear energy policy. The only policy they have had is to leave it to the market even when it is patently obvious the market cannot efficiently fund these capital projects. People putting up videos of Tony Blair as if he knew what he was doing is embarrassing.rjsterry said:Always someone else's fault.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain.0 -
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain.0 -
That’s why it’s so remarkablesurrey_commuter said:
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain.0 -
or you are blaming decades of bad decisions on one blokerick_chasey said:
That’s why it’s so remarkablesurrey_commuter said:
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain.0 -
He's a nasty tory so it has to be his fault.surrey_commuter said:
or you are blaming decades of bad decisions on one blokerick_chasey said:
That’s why it’s so remarkablesurrey_commuter said:
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'm blaming a decade of bad performance on him, largely.surrey_commuter said:
or you are blaming decades of bad decisions on one blokerick_chasey said:
That’s why it’s so remarkablesurrey_commuter said:
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain.
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Let's see your evidence then.rick_chasey said:
I'm blaming a decade of bad performance on him, largely.surrey_commuter said:
or you are blaming decades of bad decisions on one blokerick_chasey said:
That’s why it’s so remarkablesurrey_commuter said:
that is a lot to pin on him for a mere 5 years workrick_chasey said:Still think Osbourne will be remembered as one of the worst ever chancellors for the UK.
Public services, infrastructure, have all been materially degraded and people impoverished, for no obvious gain."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Surprised this hasn't had a mention before now, but I suspect Starmer is now regretting stirring up quite so much shyte about 'Partygate'
https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/05/06/sir-keir-starmer-pressure-resign-police-confirm-beergate-investigation/
Quote: "It's the po-faced, self-regarding, smug naked hypocrisy of Starmer on 'partygate' that makes his comeuppance so satisfying.
"Every speech, every interview, every script he used to try to force out the Prime Minister can now be deployed against him. Hoist with his own petard!"
"Starmer's own words should guide his actions if he is an honourable man. If they don't, he will simply nail on the fact that he is nothing but a cheap political opportunist playing at politics with no interest in the principles he purports to hold."
Ah, the rich vein of leftie hypocrisy
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If you think that's terrible hypocrisy that means he has to resign, let me tell you about someone else.0
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😂Stevo_666 said:Surprised this hasn't had a mention before now, but I suspect Starmer is now regretting stirring up quite so much shyte about 'Partygate'
https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/05/06/sir-keir-starmer-pressure-resign-police-confirm-beergate-investigation/
Quote: "It's the po-faced, self-regarding, smug naked hypocrisy of Starmer on 'partygate' that makes his comeuppance so satisfying.
"Every speech, every interview, every script he used to try to force out the Prime Minister can now be deployed against him. Hoist with his own petard!"
"Starmer's own words should guide his actions if he is an honourable man. If they don't, he will simply nail on the fact that he is nothing but a cheap political opportunist playing at politics with no interest in the principles he purports to hold."
Ah, the rich vein of leftie hypocrisy
Oh please. Bit late for that now you've lost the locals.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I can't open the link but from your quotes it seems like a balanced article.
My understanding is that Boris Johnson was found to have definitely broken the rules (with investigation into multiple other breaches) and Kier Starmer is going to be investigated for a possible breach. Did I miss something?1 -
If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).
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I mean obviously. Also as stated on the other thread, none of this is because Starmer said this or that.rick_chasey said:If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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More that Starmer slammed Jognson for breaking the rules and insisted he should resign. And is now being investigated for the same thing.monkimark said:I can't open the link but from your quotes it seems like a balanced article.
My understanding is that Boris Johnson was found to have definitely broken the rules (with investigation into multiple other breaches) and Kier Starmer is going to be investigated for a possible breach. Did I miss something?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I see nobody has denied leftie hypocrisy so far."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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I understand this is the best the tories have. Weak sauce.Stevo_666 said:I see nobody has denied leftie hypocrisy so far.
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Was losing his credibility so he could join Boris in the corner worth it. If Starmer and Rayner had just said the electorate will decide at the next election or conservatives will address it sooner then they would not be looking so bad now and frankly the story would not have come out. Its like they thought the media were only looking for a Tory take down. When I looked at the rules over the various points of the pandemic the thing that struck me was just how hard they would be to demonstrate compliance with. Especially if you are your own boss like an MP is and in the public spotlight.kingstongraham said:If you think that's terrible hypocrisy that means he has to resign, let me tell you about someone else.
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I lov how you think self interest isn't running. Do many managers seek their own sacking for what are minor infringements in anyone's world other than the irrational.rick_chasey said:If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).0 -
Surely only hypocrisy if he is found to have broken the law. Not that anyone really GAF. Apart from the sad bloke whose girlfriend left him for Johnson.Stevo_666 said:I see nobody has denied leftie hypocrisy so far.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I think we both agree Starmer has used BoJo’s rule breaking for his party’s advantage and has consistently called for him to resign if he’s found to have broken the law.john80 said:
I lov how you think self interest isn't running. Do many managers seek their own sacking for what are minor infringements in anyone's world other than the irrational.rick_chasey said:If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).
Most people try to walk the talk. Not everyone is a hypocrite.0 -
Starmer called for Johnson to resign when the police started to investigate.rick_chasey said:
I think we both agree Starmer has used BoJo’s rule breaking for his party’s advantage and has consistently called for him to resign if he’s found to have broken the law.john80 said:
I lov how you think self interest isn't running. Do many managers seek their own sacking for what are minor infringements in anyone's world other than the irrational.rick_chasey said:If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).
Most people try to walk the talk. Not everyone is a hypocrite.0 -
*because we all knew he had done it*TheBigBean said:
Starmer called for Johnson to resign when the police started to investigate.rick_chasey said:
I think we both agree Starmer has used BoJo’s rule breaking for his party’s advantage and has consistently called for him to resign if he’s found to have broken the law.john80 said:
I lov how you think self interest isn't running. Do many managers seek their own sacking for what are minor infringements in anyone's world other than the irrational.rick_chasey said:If Starmer is found guilty he should step down. If he's not, he shouldn't.
Either way, he should declare the above. Powerful message and contrast to BoJo regardless of outcome (and let's face it, Starmer would not be a great loss).
Most people try to walk the talk. Not everyone is a hypocrite.0
