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Stevo_666
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What a fantastic idea 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11680016/Why-Tories-should-join-Labour-and-back-Jeremy-Corbyn.html
If this goes viral, for the measly sum of £3 each we can put Jeremy Corbyn in charge of the Labour party, consigning Labour to electoral oblivion for quite some time. Quite a few people need to register to make it work, as it says in the link:
"Could this actually work? That depends on how many Tories sign up. The size of the Labour leadership electorate is projected to be 240,000 or thereabouts, so quite large. Second preferences are redistributed and, assuming Liz Kendal’s eliminated first, followed by Yvette Cooper, I can’t see him getting many of those. To win, therefore, Corbyn would need to get close to 50 per cent of first preferences – quite a tall order, even in a party as bats**t crazy as Labour."
I'm now a registered supporter of the Labour party
Come on comrades, your country needs you - get registered and tell your friends...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11680016/Why-Tories-should-join-Labour-and-back-Jeremy-Corbyn.html
If this goes viral, for the measly sum of £3 each we can put Jeremy Corbyn in charge of the Labour party, consigning Labour to electoral oblivion for quite some time. Quite a few people need to register to make it work, as it says in the link:
"Could this actually work? That depends on how many Tories sign up. The size of the Labour leadership electorate is projected to be 240,000 or thereabouts, so quite large. Second preferences are redistributed and, assuming Liz Kendal’s eliminated first, followed by Yvette Cooper, I can’t see him getting many of those. To win, therefore, Corbyn would need to get close to 50 per cent of first preferences – quite a tall order, even in a party as bats**t crazy as Labour."
I'm now a registered supporter of the Labour party
Come on comrades, your country needs you - get registered and tell your friends... "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
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Very funny. Would be interested to see it work out but doubt it will.0
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You're an idiot.
^^^^^ you ve been found out Stevo6 0 -
You're an idiot.
I feel that lacked imagination or really hit the depth required0 -
Save your money Stevo. It may be a ruse for the lefties to raise money. Even if loads of us voted for him, I'm sure we would be outvoted when Red Len rocks up and casts his votes. 0
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Really just £3?? I think I saw something about it being from £3. Or in the style of telecoms broadband speed in reverse. They say from £3 but most have to spend £25 to become members unless one of the workshy slackjaws who normally support Labour left!!!
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Could this not just generate a load of cash fro Labour. Torries joining so they can vote and then a load of labour supporters who wouldn't have normally joined sign up to stop the torries swinging the vote.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
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I think I preferred it when Tories had the good grace to be ashamed enough about their political views to keep quiet about them.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Has any political party ever been ashamed of their policies. Thinking about Blair's Iraq war as a prime example of policy to be ashamed of.I think I preferred it when Tories had the good grace to be ashamed enough about their political views to keep quiet about them.0 -
I was thinking more about the so called "shy tories".[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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What, you mean you only realised because you read Ricks witty and incisive reply? :PYou're an idiot.
^^^^^ you ve been found out Stevo6
Not sure why he's so narked about this, unless he's finally given up on the Lib Dems and defected to Labour in an act of political desperation "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You're an idiot.
I feel that lacked imagination or really hit the depth required
Can't say I disagree with you Sae15w40
FWIW, Look what happened when a bean counter was at the helm. Don't vote stevo666.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
I have no ambitions to stand for elected office - unlike some peopleYou're an idiot.
I feel that lacked imagination or really hit the depth required
Can't say I disagree with you Sae15w40
FWIW, Look what happened when a bean counter was at the helm. Don't vote stevo666.
All I want to do is exercise my democratic right to help get beardy Captain Bats**t elected to lead Labour into the electoral wilderness, a bit like Michael Foot did in the early 80's. It's the least they deserve "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
"Stevo wrote:All I want to do is exercise my democratic right to help get beardy Captain Bats**t elected to lead Labour into the electoral wilderness, a bit like Michael Foot did in the early 80's. It's the least they deserve
You might want to think more on why Shiny Face Dave is pandering to the 50 Euronutter Tory MPs. FFS there are 280+ other Tories, what's up with them? Paralysed with indecision on whether to be rational or conform to the tax dodging newspaper owners' personal agendas?0 -
Bompetta, being 5, is a keen Cbeebies fan, and I had a nagging feeling Corbyn looked a bit familiar:
Has anyone ever seen Bernard Cribbins and Jeremy Corbyn in the same room at the same time?0 -
[/quote]"Stevo wrote:All I want to do is exercise my democratic right to help get beardy Captain Bats**t elected to lead Labour into the electoral wilderness, a bit like Michael Foot did in the early 80's. It's the least they deserve
You might want to think more on why Shiny Face Dave is pandering to the 50 Euronutter Tory MPs. FFS there are 280+ other Tories, what's up with them? Paralysed with indecision on whether to be rational or conform to the tax dodging newspaper owners' personal agendas?
Don't come in here talking sense. Sod off.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
[/quote]"Stevo wrote:All I want to do is exercise my democratic right to help get beardy Captain Bats**t elected to lead Labour into the electoral wilderness, a bit like Michael Foot did in the early 80's. It's the least they deserve
You might want to think more on why Shiny Face Dave is pandering to the 50 Euronutter Tory MPs. FFS there are 280+ other Tories, what's up with them? Paralysed with indecision on whether to be rational or conform to the tax dodging newspaper owners' personal agendas?
Why? I get my vote on that as well and I'll make my own mind up
Now back to destroying Labours electability..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!0 -
Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
What, you mean you only realised because you read Ricks witty and incisive reply? :PYou're an idiot.
^^^^^ you ve been found out Stevo6
Not sure why he's so narked about this, unless he's finally given up on the Lib Dems and defected to Labour in an act of political desperation
No, i ve long ago realised this but forum rules prevented me from saying it 0 -
Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:
You really had to be there, Pina. Joking aside for your admiration of Lady T, this was a different league.0 -
Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:
You really had to be there, Pina. Joking aside for your admiration of Lady T, this was a different league.
Come on Bally, in retrospect you did refer to an era of entrenched ideology that did the country no good whatsoever and now we have almost no discernible ideology apart from something that resembles neo-liberalism which again, is doing the country no good. How Ironic.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
I heard some of this stuff too, having lived in the North East for a lot of that time. And there is nothing quite like the bile of wannabe class warriors with chips on their shoulders.Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:
You really had to be there, Pina. Joking aside for your admiration of Lady T, this was a different league.
Come on Bally, in retrospect you did refer to an era of entrenched ideology that did the country no good whatsoever and now we have almost no discernible ideology apart from something that resembles neo-liberalism which again, is doing the country no good. How Ironic.
At present we have falling unemployment, low inflation, healthy GDP growth and rising wages. Are you saying that these things are bad? This horrid 'neo-liberalism eh. I think need to tell us what illiberal things you would put in place to cure the economic good news we are getting at present "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Because of course all those inefficient, uncompetitive, appallingly run state owned industries paralysed by militant unions would have kept going just fine if Maggie hadn't come along...
I often wonder just how long it would have taken for all the rust belt industries to disappear if she hadn't expedited the process, but I don't suppose it would have been long. And there wouldn't have been the slightest hint of anything coming along to replace them, either.0 -
What, you mean you only realised because you read Ricks witty and incisive reply? :PYou're an idiot.
^^^^^ you ve been found out Stevo6
Not sure why he's so narked about this, unless he's finally given up on the Lib Dems and defected to Labour in an act of political desperation
Fairly anti-democratic isn't it?
Your party, at best, needs a bit of competition to stop it becoming too flabby, lazy, and letting power get to their head.
Think you'd be better off giving your money to the party you support than the party you don't.
You'd hope that you would want to improve your party rather than screw over their nearest rivals. That just turns the process to a race to a bottom, rather than to the top, which is as it should be.
Think the Tories of all people should be the party that values 'fair competition'.
If you think your party isn't capable of winning without a rival leader who you feel is unelectable, think about why that's the case.0 -
I heard some of this stuff too, having lived in the North East for a lot of that time. And there is nothing quite like the bile of wannabe class warriors with chips on their shoulders.Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:
You really had to be there, Pina. Joking aside for your admiration of Lady T, this was a different league.
Come on Bally, in retrospect you did refer to an era of entrenched ideology that did the country no good whatsoever and now we have almost no discernible ideology apart from something that resembles neo-liberalism which again, is doing the country no good. How Ironic.
At present we have falling unemployment, low inflation, healthy GDP growth and rising wages. Are you saying that these things are bad? This horrid 'neo-liberalism eh. I think need to tell us what illiberal things you would put in place to cure the economic good news we are getting at present
No these things are not bad (if indeed they are true?) but i'm not really sure how anyone can crow about where this country is heading at the moment, low wages, propped up by state intervention on a Cuban style, a failing education system, inequality, cuts to adult and child social care (leaving more kids and adults at risk of abuse) and productivity way behind our competitors, you can believe the xxxx from Osborne but the reality for millions is very different.0 -
I heard some of this stuff too, having lived in the North East for a lot of that time. And there is nothing quite like the bile of wannabe class warriors with chips on their shoulders.Five years ago I got to enjoy, no, endure a speech by Dave Nellist, who had been a Labour MP during the 80s.
These people should be encouraged to speak at every opportunity. I had never heard such vicious bile in all my life. Let the people know what they really stand for.
And some people want the Labour Party to go back to these 'traditional' values espoused in the 70s and 80s? FFS!!!
Of course, there were no Tories in the 70's and 80's that came up with equally viscous bile was there? :roll:
You really had to be there, Pina. Joking aside for your admiration of Lady T, this was a different league.
Come on Bally, in retrospect you did refer to an era of entrenched ideology that did the country no good whatsoever and now we have almost no discernible ideology apart from something that resembles neo-liberalism which again, is doing the country no good. How Ironic.
At present we have falling unemployment, low inflation, healthy GDP growth and rising wages. Are you saying that these things are bad? This horrid 'neo-liberalism eh. I think need to tell us what illiberal things you would put in place to cure the economic good news we are getting at present
Falling unemployment from zero hours contracts and more part time positions. That will add real revenue increases, won't it?
NHS busting at the seams and there's not a cats chance in hell they will attempt to address the causes.
Housing policy - not even the whiff of a comprehensive attempt to address the issue in sight. Landlords allowed to charge what the hell they like without putting rent controls on them, adding to the housing crises.
More public sector and welfare cuts on the horizon.
Barely a rap on the knuckles for the banks that caused this mess.
There's another factor - low inflation, caused by a global drop in crude oil prices - nothing to do with the Tory party's policies.
Homelessness on the increase, the increase fell slightly back on (2013/2014) but on the increase overall for 5 years running:
http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Homelessness_Monitor_England_2015_final_web.pdf
Male suicide rates in the UK, higher in 2013 (latest figures) than 2001.
http://www.samaritans.org/sites/default/files/kcfinder/branches/branch-96/files/Suicide_statistics_report_2015.pdf
Obesity through the roof:
http://www.hscic.gov.uk/catalogue/PUB16988/obes-phys-acti-diet-eng-2015.pdf
When are the neo-liberals and the neo-cons going to stop:
A. Harping on about the Labour administrations of old (there has not been one since 1979).
B. Harping on about how the economy is doing so well followed by the 'we all benefit from the money that is being made...filter down effect...bollox blah bollox' argument that is deeply flawed.
C. Realise that it we are definitely not living in a rosy Tory Utopia and there are flaws in this administration and it is flawed relativism to suggest that it is better than...'a labour government would do'.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Taking this thread a bit too seriously aren't you Rick...
What, you mean you only realised because you read Ricks witty and incisive reply? :PYou're an idiot.
^^^^^ you ve been found out Stevo6
Not sure why he's so narked about this, unless he's finally given up on the Lib Dems and defected to Labour in an act of political desperation
Fairly anti-democratic isn't it?
Your party, at best, needs a bit of competition to stop it becoming too flabby, lazy, and letting power get to their head.
Think you'd be better off giving your money to the party you support than the party you don't.
You'd hope that you would want to improve your party rather than screw over their nearest rivals. That just turns the process to a race to a bottom, rather than to the top, which is as it should be.
Think the Tories of all people should be the party that values 'fair competition'.
If you think your party isn't capable of winning without a rival leader who you feel is unelectable, think about why that's the case.
Especially as it's not even aimed at your party. Actually the Lib Dems would probably stand to benefit from a Labour lurch to the left as disaffected Labour supporters would look for a more centre left party. If this works, the Lib Dems could once again scale the giddy heights of having double digit numbers of MP's. One day you'll thank me for this
Anyhow, I've had at least £3 worth of fun out this thread, so it's money well spent even before I get voting "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
