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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090
    Stella Creasy writing in the Guardian. It's a dad free world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/25/baby-banned-parliament-women-politics-stella-creasy
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,628
    Q. What happens if every father takes their children into HoC?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • longy
    longy Posts: 74
    pblakeney said:

    Q. What happens if every father takes their children into HoC?

    A. The look on Boris's face would be a picture as he tries to work out how many are his.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,924
    longy said:

    pblakeney said:

    Q. What happens if every father takes their children into HoC?

    A. The look on Boris's face would be a picture as he tries to work out how many are his.
    You think he would care?
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,678
    briantrumpet said:

    Maybe I'm getting obsessed with her though...

    "And..So..Though its..Yeah and..That.." What a sharp mind.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/28/fury-as-nadine-dorries-rejects-fellow-torys-groping-claim-against-pms-father

    She's a delight.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,924
    edited November 2021
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    As 2021 draws to a close with Labour still out of power, we have to say thanks to the self-confessed "morons" who gave us a chance to vote Jezza into leadership and mess up their chances :)
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/28/david-lammy-says-made-mistake-nominating-jeremy-corbyn-labour/

    "David Lammy says he made a mistake nominating Jeremy Corbyn for Labour leader
    The shadow foreign secretary, said he 'never believed' Mr Corbyn would win the contest and regretted helping him to the position

    Shadow Cabinet minister David Lammy has apologised for nominating Jeremy Corbyn to be Labour leader six years ago, saying it was "a mistake and I am sorry for that".

    Mr Lammy, the shadow foreign secretary, said he “never believed” Mr Corbyn would become leader and said he regretted being one of the 35 Labour MPs who helped propel Mr Corbyn from the political wilderness to the top of the party in 2015.

    Mr Lammy is not the first senior Labour figure to express regret about nominating the left-winger to be leader. Before the contest had even finished in 2015, party grandee Dame Margaret Beckett admitted she had been a "moron" to help put Mr Corbyn on the ballot paper."
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,971
    Stevo_666 said:

    As 2021 draws to a close with Labour still out of power, we have to say thanks to the self-confessed "morons" who gave us a chance to vote Jezza into leadership and mess up their chances :)
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/28/david-lammy-says-made-mistake-nominating-jeremy-corbyn-labour/

    "David Lammy says he made a mistake nominating Jeremy Corbyn for Labour leader
    The shadow foreign secretary, said he 'never believed' Mr Corbyn would win the contest and regretted helping him to the position

    Shadow Cabinet minister David Lammy has apologised for nominating Jeremy Corbyn to be Labour leader six years ago, saying it was "a mistake and I am sorry for that".

    Mr Lammy, the shadow foreign secretary, said he “never believed” Mr Corbyn would become leader and said he regretted being one of the 35 Labour MPs who helped propel Mr Corbyn from the political wilderness to the top of the party in 2015.

    Mr Lammy is not the first senior Labour figure to express regret about nominating the left-winger to be leader. Before the contest had even finished in 2015, party grandee Dame Margaret Beckett admitted she had been a "moron" to help put Mr Corbyn on the ballot paper."



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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    As 2021 draws to a close with Labour still out of power, we have to say thanks to the self-confessed "morons" who gave us a chance to vote Jezza into leadership and mess up their chances :)
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/28/david-lammy-says-made-mistake-nominating-jeremy-corbyn-labour/

    "David Lammy says he made a mistake nominating Jeremy Corbyn for Labour leader
    The shadow foreign secretary, said he 'never believed' Mr Corbyn would win the contest and regretted helping him to the position

    Shadow Cabinet minister David Lammy has apologised for nominating Jeremy Corbyn to be Labour leader six years ago, saying it was "a mistake and I am sorry for that".

    Mr Lammy, the shadow foreign secretary, said he “never believed” Mr Corbyn would become leader and said he regretted being one of the 35 Labour MPs who helped propel Mr Corbyn from the political wilderness to the top of the party in 2015.

    Mr Lammy is not the first senior Labour figure to express regret about nominating the left-winger to be leader. Before the contest had even finished in 2015, party grandee Dame Margaret Beckett admitted she had been a "moron" to help put Mr Corbyn on the ballot paper."



    At least I realise that's the case here ;)

    When in Cake Stop...

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,194
    I spy with my little eye something beginning with C?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,194
    edited January 2022
    I listened to Barry Gardiner on LBC Iain Dale last night. The bloke had the guts to go on the show and answer all the questions fired at him from the public. They pretty much all gave him credit for doing this.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,692
    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    Weren't they also pictured with Cameron amongst others? You might want to be cautious in case it wasn't only Labour politicians that received donations!
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,924
    Cameron and Osborne were briefly best mates with Xi, so, ahem, glass houses.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ugh, donation system is so shady.
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    edited January 2022
    rjsterry said:

    Cameron and Osborne were briefly best mates with Xi, so, ahem, glass houses.

    They're not throwing stones as far as I know.

    Also let's not forget John McDonnell who seemed to be good mates with Chairman Mao.


    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    focuszing723 said:

    I listened to Barry Gardiner on LBC Iain Dale last night. The bloke had the guts to go on the show and answer all the questions fired at him from the public. They pretty much all gave him credit for doing this.

    Credit where it's due for actually admitting culpability and not lying about it but he was always completely inept and out of his depth.

    As I keep banging on about, the fact it came down to a choice between Corbyn and Johnson shows the abject state of British politics.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,743
    to be fair, it doesnt feel like even Stevo's heart is really in this...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,194
    skyblueamateur said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I listened to Barry Gardiner on LBC Iain Dale last night. The bloke had the guts to go on the show and answer all the questions fired at him from the public. They pretty much all gave him credit for doing this.

    Credit where it's due for actually admitting culpability and not lying about it but he was always completely inept and out of his depth.

    As I keep banging on about, the fact it came down to a choice between Corbyn and Johnson shows the abject state of British politics.
    Yeah, that's the real problem.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    the Tories have accepted (and continue to accept) a lot of dodgy money, in particular from Russians. I would be very surprised if they make a big thing of it.

    see this as me warming up to rejoin the Cake Stop Tory Party, though I will be looking for you to renounce your support of socialist economic policies
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    the Tories have accepted (and continue to accept) a lot of dodgy money, in particular from Russians. I would be very surprised if they make a big thing of it.

    see this as me warming up to rejoin the Cake Stop Tory Party, though I will be looking for you to renounce your support of socialist economic policies
    Nothing people on the right like more than some leftist hypocrisy or links to commies, so this ticks both boxes.

    The hypocrisy helps them feel better about their less savoury behaviour, as "everyone else is at it, we're just more honest about it".
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    the Tories have accepted (and continue to accept) a lot of dodgy money, in particular from Russians. I would be very surprised if they make a big thing of it.

    see this as me warming up to rejoin the Cake Stop Tory Party, though I will be looking for you to renounce your support of socialist economic policies
    OK, so you're saying we should just let this one go because others have made similar 'errors of judgment' etc?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    the Tories have accepted (and continue to accept) a lot of dodgy money, in particular from Russians. I would be very surprised if they make a big thing of it.

    see this as me warming up to rejoin the Cake Stop Tory Party, though I will be looking for you to renounce your support of socialist economic policies
    OK, so you're saying we should just let this one go because others have made similar 'errors of judgment' etc?
    nope, I am saying that we will not win a beauty parade on dodgy donors
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting stuff about the Labour MP who received a large donation from a Chinese spy - it also appears that the Labour party itself and Ed Davey also received donations from her.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/labour-mp-barry-gardiner-accepted-425000-donations-chinese-spy/

    I would find a different battleground
    Why?
    the Tories have accepted (and continue to accept) a lot of dodgy money, in particular from Russians. I would be very surprised if they make a big thing of it.

    see this as me warming up to rejoin the Cake Stop Tory Party, though I will be looking for you to renounce your support of socialist economic policies
    Nothing people on the right like more than some leftist hypocrisy or links to commies, so this ticks both boxes.

    The hypocrisy helps them feel better about their less savoury behaviour, as "everyone else is at it, we're just more honest about it".
    more cynically I would say they want the focus groups to say "they are all at it/as bad as one another"

    I have stated my view before that I think the whole system of political funding and elevation to the 2nd chamber is designed to encourage and reward bribery and corruption
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,924
    One wonders why they chose to target Barry Gardiner of all people.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,743
    Oh poor Steven... 🤣



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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,019
    Looks like we're all in this together :)

    Raver boy as usual misses the point ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]

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