Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

davidof

TimothyW wrote:

The post above you would suggest they're somewhat poor although I suspect competition from Schwalbe is probably a large part of it.

Either way, I'm happy to see tubeless becoming more affordable.

Retiring a tire after 1000 miles doesn't look good.

bobones

TimothyW wrote:

The post above you would suggest they're somewhat poor although I suspect competition from Schwalbe is probably a large part of it.

Either way, I'm happy to see tubeless becoming more affordable.

Note that the bad experience was with the Tubeless Fusion 5 Performance, not the Tubeless Ready version, which is a much lighter tyre altogether (250g instead of 320g). I don't have enough mileage on the Tubeless Ready All Season to say if it's any better, but I remain optimistic.

My theory on why they are so cheap is that they are dumping old stock as they seem to be marketing a new "11 Storm" compound for their tubeless ready lineup, and the ones on sale are the older compound. See for example http://www.hutchinsontires.com/us/category/road

davidof

bobones wrote:

TimothyW wrote:

My theory on why they are so cheap is that they are dumping old stock as they seem to be marketing a new "11 Storm" compound for their tubeless ready lineup, and the ones on sale are the older compound. See for example http://www.hutchinsontires.com/us/category/road

ah thanks for the info, I'll stock up, at 20 quid a tire I will get a pair.

cycleclinic

just tried the mavic yskion tyre 25mm on a mavic open pro ust rim and while mavic claim I could do by hand I needed levers. So much for that then. inflation was easy. i tried and IRC formula pro Xguard and it was similar tightness. nothing that causes a problem but levers are needed. inflation easy as well. the bead lock seamed less secure with the mavic tyre though.

Those hutchinsons sound a bit ropey a tyre that punctures like that would be annoying.

graeme_s-2

I’m after a tubeless tyre in the 35-38C range. To be used mostly on road commuting. They’ll be replacing. Pair of 38C Vitoria Hyper Voyagers. I had ordered a pair of 35C Marathon Supreme Microskins from CRC, but they seemed confused about how many they had and cancelled my order after several days. Don’t really want to pay more than £60 a pair delivered, which has ruled out the Supremes from anywhere that has them in stock (hey were £28.99 at CRC). Suggestions?

cycleclinic

Your desire to buy then for £60 is unsustainable. Wiggle on a turnover of 245 million lost 16.6 million last tax year. Get real on pricing or there will be no retailers left.

itboffin

This thread both sparked and killed my desire to go tubeless, however on yesterday's very wet and muddy club ride one of the group rode over 18 miles on what turned out to be 20 psi on a set of tubeless he first setup three years ago, when we got back all that was needed was a top up, spin the wheel and back on the road.

That's worth the effort of fitting surely

roubaixmb

itboffin wrote:

This thread both sparked and killed my desire to go tubeless, however on yesterday's very wet and muddy club ride one of the group rode over 18 miles on what turned out to be 20 psi on a set of tubeless he first setup three years ago, when we got back all that was needed was a top up, spin the wheel and back on the road.

That's worth the effort of fitting surely

I suspect you could have earned enough money in the time you've spent on here writing about it to pay someone to fit them for you.

ddraver

I had a bad experience with a Fusion 5 Performance which seemed to be made of good intentions only. I found another for peanuts though and given the lack of options for tubeless "winter road tyres" gave them another chance and I must say it they've been good since. They re not as nice as the Pro1s but hopefully they re a bot tougher and last longer.

I ve never managed to fit one easily though, it's always been a total mission. Secteurs on non-tubeless rims were easier!

itboffin

Mind you the challenge strada lgg are awesome, die stinking tubeless ball ache

But should I ....?

cycleclinic

Yes you should. It painless if you do it right. You need the right tyres first and to carry the right kit when you are out. Worms, a 60mm bottle of sealant and a valve core remover are in my back pocket now. You also need to know how to fit the worms properly.

lincolndave

A question for cycle clinic, I have been using the road lites forth every past couple of months and I am impressed with the wear and comfort , could you recommend a 25mm tyre for the winter months,
Thankyou

drlodge

Lincolndave wrote:

A question for cycle clinic, I have been using the road lites forth every past couple of months and I am impressed with the wear and comfort , could you recommend a 25mm tyre for the winter months,
Thankyou

Malcolm's rebuilding my winter wheels (I sent him the hubs), he's putting Kinlin XR22T rims with IRC Formula Pro X-guard tyres in 25c on them. I have the IRC Roadlites on two other bikes and, like you, am impressed with them. The x-guard seemed the obvious choice for winter use.

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... less-tyres

lincolndave

drlodge wrote:

Lincolndave wrote:

A question for cycle clinic, I have been using the road lites forth every past couple of months and I am impressed with the wear and comfort , could you recommend a 25mm tyre for the winter months,
Thankyou

Malcolm's rebuilding my winter wheels (I sent him the hubs), he's putting Kinlin XR22T rims with IRC Formula Pro X-guard tyres in 25c on them. I have the IRC Roadlites on two other bikes and, like you, am impressed with them. The x-guard seemed the obvious choice for winter use.

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... less-tyres

Thanks for that, I will get a couple on order

oldbazza

Double puncture on the X-Ones(on Halo Vapour rims) on Saturday but kept inflated enough to keep riding.

Topped up the sealant on Sunday and holding full pressure again.

Will definately look at swapping all wheels to tubeless over time.

itboffin

my LBS is fully onboard now, in fact almost all his new bikes go out tubeless

cycleclinic

which LBS if you dont mind me asking.

the X guards are very good over wet winter months so are the RBCC tyres as it turns out. Hutchinson sectors will probably meet your needs but they are quite big and not that cheap and I would rather use a roadlite. There are not many tubeless tyres out there that are of the all weather kind. most are made to perform well on a rolling road test which of course means they sacrifice in other area's.

see this link for road cc round up.
http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/214 ... ogy-rubber

and other one focusing on tubeless tyres for winter use
http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/230 ... ive-winter

lincolndave

Well the irc x guards turned up this morning , and they are on the winter wheels, easy to fit and inflate
https://flic.kr/p/21jYtPK

bobones

Acycles are now doing Black Friday deals on 25mm Hutchinson Tubeless Ready tyres: ~£16 each for All Season and Performance, and ~£22 for Galactik.

sloppyschleckonds

bobones wrote:

Acycles are now doing Black Friday deals on 25mm Hutchinson Tubeless Ready tyres: ~£16 each for All Season and Performance, and ~£22 for Galactik.

Anything in 28's?

sloppyschleckonds

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

jdee84

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

Have you used the 28's before? Any idea if they come up wider than 28 on 19mm internal rim?

tincaman

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/products.aspx?search=1&style=0&kw=padrone

bobones

tincaman wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/products.aspx?search=1&style=0&kw=padrone

Nice one. Purchased a set for the summer bike.

Meanwhile back on ACycles there's an additional 15% off black friday items with the code BFRIDAY15 so tubeless ready are now around £14 a pop.

ATYapton

ddraver wrote:

Well, on 2WayFit Fulcrum Racing 3s, Schwalbe Ones went on and up fine with no issues

Struggling to see what all they fuss is about really. Still, have nt ridden them yet...

Get yourself some American Classics. They are a bitch. I just throw the tryres in the general direction of the fulcrum sand they pop on by comparison.

fat_tail

bobones wrote:

tincaman wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/products.aspx?search=1&style=0&kw=padrone

Nice one. Purchased a set for the summer bike.

Meanwhile back on ACycles there's an additional 15% off black friday items with the code BFRIDAY15 so tubeless ready are now around £14 a pop.

thanks - just ordered a pair...

sloppyschleckonds

jdee84 wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

Have you used the 28's before? Any idea if they come up wider than 28 on 19mm internal rim?

They come up as 28mm, its the Schwalbe Pro Ones that bloat out like tractor tyres

jdee84

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

jdee84 wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Maxxis Padrones 23,25,28's

2 for £49.99

http://shop.maxxis.co.uk/viewitems.aspx

Have you used the 28's before? Any idea if they come up wider than 28 on 19mm internal rim?

They come up as 28mm, its the Schwalbe Pro Ones that bloat out like tractor tyres

Thanks! And thanks for the heads up ordered a pair!

cycleclinic

Great so you can buy the tyres of maxis for less than i can of the Official distributor. It like maxis are saying they don't want shops or online retailers to sell there tyres. They are limiting there sales as retailers won't support the brand. It's not the first time they have done it.

I hope those hutchinsons are not the current storm 11 tyres.

bobones

thecycleclinic wrote:

I hope those hutchinsons are not the current storm 11 tyres.

They aren’t, but why do you say that?