Silly Commuter Weight Loss

itboffin

ugo.santalucia wrote:

At Wellesbourne airfield cafe' everyone was having eggs, bacon and chips and not doing anything... I had done 90 miles and had a cup of tea and a small slice of cake...

just an example of inequality...

You should carry more money or a card with you when you ride ;-)

wolfsbane2k

Checking in after a hard week. Gained this week, probably due to today being Friday and having porridge at 8 and a fry up at ten, followed by a salad lunch at 2 and chocolate bar at 4. But I don't care, I'm tired and hungry.

mrfpb

................START.......TARGET..............NOW......SO FAR.........TO GO
itboffin.....173.8lbs.......155lbs...........165lbs......8.8lbs.........10lbs
spasy..........72.2kg.........67kg...........66.7kg.......5.5kg.........-0.3kg
Ugo..............77kg.........69kg...........68.9kg.......8.1kg........-0.1kg
imatfaal.........78kg.........74kg...........75.2kg.......2.8kg.........1.2kg
whatleytom.....83.6kg.........75kg...........82.5kg.......1.1kg.........7.5kg
Wolfsbane2k.....127kg........113kg..........125.0kg.......2.0kg..........12kg
Mr FPB.........80.0kg.......70.0kg...........77.7kg.......2.3kg..........7.7kg
IP.............75.0kg.......69.0kg...........72.0kg.......3.0kg...........3kg
JZed..........111.0kg.......93.0kg..........103.0kg.......8.0kg........10.0kg
dhope..........74.5kg.......69.5kg...........71.2kg.......3.3kg.........1.7kg
stu-bim.......109.8kg.......90.0kg..........105.7kg.......0.0kg........15.7kg
London-Red.....87.1kg.........80kg...........81.9kg.......5.2kg.........1.9kg
pangolin......101.5kg.........92kg..........101.5kg.......0.0kg.........9.5kg

Starting to shift a little. Must be spring making me more active.

imatfaal

................START.......TARGET..............NOW......SO FAR.........TO GO
itboffin.....173.8lbs.......155lbs...........165lbs......8.8lbs.........10lbs
spasy..........72.2kg.........67kg...........66.7kg.......5.5kg.........-0.3kg
Ugo..............77kg.........69kg...........68.9kg.......8.1kg........-0.1kg
imatfaal.........78kg.........74kg...........74.0kg.......4.0kg.........0.0kg
whatleytom.....83.6kg.........75kg...........82.5kg.......1.1kg.........7.5kg
Wolfsbane2k.....127kg........113kg..........125.0kg.......2.0kg..........12kg
Mr FPB.........80.0kg.......70.0kg...........77.7kg.......2.3kg..........7.7kg
IP.............75.0kg.......69.0kg...........72.0kg.......3.0kg...........3kg
JZed..........111.0kg.......93.0kg..........103.0kg.......8.0kg........10.0kg
dhope..........74.5kg.......69.5kg...........71.2kg.......3.3kg.........1.7kg
stu-bim.......109.8kg.......90.0kg..........105.7kg.......0.0kg........15.7kg
London-Red.....87.1kg.........80kg...........81.9kg.......5.2kg.........1.9kg
pangolin......101.5kg.........92kg..........101.5kg.......0.0kg.........9.5kg

I thought I would have to wait till the end of the Spring Classics and the return of long weekends in the saddle rather in front of TV - but all gone. Now gotta get my speed up and improve endurance

stu-bim

................START.......TARGET..............NOW......SO FAR.........TO GO
itboffin.....173.8lbs.......155lbs...........165lbs......8.8lbs.........10lbs
spasy..........72.2kg.........67kg...........66.7kg.......5.5kg........-0.3kg
Ugo..............77kg.........69kg...........68.9kg.......8.1kg........-0.1kg
imatfaal.........78kg.........74kg...........74.0kg.......4.0kg.........0.0kg
whatleytom.....83.6kg.........75kg...........82.5kg.......1.1kg.........7.5kg
Wolfsbane2k.....127kg........113kg..........125.0kg.......2.0kg..........12kg
Mr FPB.........80.0kg.......70.0kg...........77.7kg.......2.3kg.........7.7kg
IP.............75.0kg.......69.0kg...........72.0kg.......3.0kg...........3kg
JZed..........111.0kg.......93.0kg..........103.0kg.......8.0kg........10.0kg
dhope..........74.5kg.......69.5kg...........71.2kg.......3.3kg.........1.7kg
stu-bim.......109.8kg.......90.0kg..........104.5kg.......5.3kg........14.5kg
London-Red.....87.1kg.........80kg...........81.9kg.......5.2kg.........1.9kg
pangolin......101.5kg.........92kg..........101.5kg.......0.0kg.........9.5kg

Slow movement but something

itboffin

My weight is slowly going up but not getting fatter far from it, trouble is I've always had a tendency to gain muscle when I exercise hard, six months of 200-250 miles a week with one or two 160 weeks it was bound to happen, my problem now apart from the additional weight is my climbing speed has dropped, my stamina is great but top end climbing so.

Less miles, more hills?

ugo.santalucia

itboffin wrote:

Less beer, more hills?

FIFY

itboffin

Never gonna happen

ugo.santalucia

itboffin wrote:

Never gonna happen

When I was drinking (and I am talking about 15-20 units a week, not the 50 or so that you drink) I never managed to lose weight. Roughly speaking, there's 100 calories in each alcohol unit of beer... a pint a day offsets a long weekly ride, two pints a day offset pretty much all the riding one does

itboffin

well that's okay because i only have 6 ish a day, you've made me all thirsty now

spasypaddy

ignoring the fact that alcohol slows your metabolism down for days after drinking

keef66

Just back from a week's all-inclusive eating / drinking / lounging about in Cape Verde (there's bugger all else to do / see there). Average weight gain of just over a pound a day. Top gluttony!

Return to normal eating, no booze, one bike ride and one fast day and I've lost 3 pounds already. It's coming off at the same rate it went on, which is pleasing. The human body is a very clever thing; most efficient at laying down fat then using it when required!

Mind you, there were some staggering examples of the global obesity crisis around the pool :shock: My success with the 5:2 diet led me to conclude that over eating / drinking is 99% psychological, but I'll never understand people who eat and drink themselves into those grotesque shapes.

ugo.santalucia

keef66 wrote:

My success with the 5:2 diet led me to conclude that over eating / drinking is 99% psychological, but I'll never understand people who eat and drink themselves into those grotesque shapes.

It's a vicious circle of reward/frustration... the fatter and uglier you get, the less you feel like doing anything other than spending time on the sofa feeling sorry for yourself. Eating and drinking becomes the only pleasure/reward of an otherwise pretty miserable existence. It is very very sad and I don't think it is as easy as heading to the gym and working out/dieting. As a society we need to invest a lot more...

I would start by putting a blanket ban/ heavy tax on anything that doesn't satisfy some basic health criteria: processed cakes and biscuits, sweetened drinks and pops, ready meals with dubious ingredients... the tax on sugar should be real... sugar should cost 10 pounds per Kg, instead of 1. Fast food chains and chippies should have a maximum size per product, corresponding to say 5-600 calories or so... things like a doner kebab (as we know it in the UK) should disappear, pizzas should have a resemblance to the real product (In Italy you are not allowed to call pizza something that is not)... a fried cod should be a fish, not a ball of batter.. Starbucks & co should reduce the size of their drinks to what they are supposed to be (with a pint of milk you should be able to to do 5-6 cappuccinos, not 1-2. Just a few ideas on how to change the world for the better

mamil314

keef66 wrote:

Just back from a week's all-inclusive eating / drinking / lounging about in Cape Verde (there's bugger all else to do / see there). Average weight gain of just over a pound a day. Top gluttony!

Return to normal eating, no booze, one bike ride and one fast day and I've lost 3 pounds already. It's coming off at the same rate it went on, which is pleasing. The human body is a very clever thing; most efficient at laying down fat then using it when required!

Mind you, there were some staggering examples of the global obesity crisis around the pool :shock: My success with the 5:2 diet led me to conclude that over eating / drinking is 99% psychological, but I'll never understand people who eat and drink themselves into those grotesque shapes.

1.5 kilo fat burned in 1 ride and 1 day fasting, i am well impressed!

ugo.santalucia

mamil314 wrote:

keef66 wrote:

Just back from a week's all-inclusive eating / drinking / lounging about in Cape Verde (there's bugger all else to do / see there). Average weight gain of just over a pound a day. Top gluttony!

Return to normal eating, no booze, one bike ride and one fast day and I've lost 3 pounds already. It's coming off at the same rate it went on, which is pleasing. The human body is a very clever thing; most efficient at laying down fat then using it when required!

Mind you, there were some staggering examples of the global obesity crisis around the pool :shock: My success with the 5:2 diet led me to conclude that over eating / drinking is 99% psychological, but I'll never understand people who eat and drink themselves into those grotesque shapes.

1.5 kilo fat burned in 1 ride and 1 day fasting, i am well impressed!

it's not fat... most likely water retention

keef66

ugo.santalucia wrote:

mamil314 wrote:

keef66 wrote:

Just back from a week's all-inclusive eating / drinking / lounging about in Cape Verde (there's bugger all else to do / see there). Average weight gain of just over a pound a day. Top gluttony!

Return to normal eating, no booze, one bike ride and one fast day and I've lost 3 pounds already. It's coming off at the same rate it went on, which is pleasing. The human body is a very clever thing; most efficient at laying down fat then using it when required!

Mind you, there were some staggering examples of the global obesity crisis around the pool :shock: My success with the 5:2 diet led me to conclude that over eating / drinking is 99% psychological, but I'll never understand people who eat and drink themselves into those grotesque shapes.

1.5 kilo fat burned in 1 ride and 1 day fasting, i am well impressed!

it's not fat... most likely water retention

It was almost certainly mainly water / day-to-day fluctuation. After the bank holiday weekend the total loss for the week was only 1.5 lbs. I've moved the fast day to Tuesday this week since I spent much of yesterday helping my wife finish her Lindt easter egg

prawny

I'm still managing to put on weight commuting 40 miles a day. I need to take a proper look at what I'm eating, I think I'm taking in far too much crap, not enough of the good stuff. Especially at weekends.

I was 12st 11 last night, back overweight again :evil:

itboffin

40 miles a day 5 days a week?

You should be able to eat and drink practically anything you like

dhope

prawny wrote:

I'm still managing to put on weight commuting 40 miles a day. I need to take a proper look at what I'm eating, I think I'm taking in far too much crap, not enough of the good stuff. Especially at weekends.

I was 12st 11 last night, back overweight again :evil:

So, what are you eating?

ugo.santalucia

itboffin wrote:

40 miles a day 5 days a week?

You should be able to eat and drink practically anything you like

Sadly not... I managed to put on weight doing 700 Km in 5 days across the Pyrenees...

prawny

dhope wrote:

prawny wrote:

I'm still managing to put on weight commuting 40 miles a day. I need to take a proper look at what I'm eating, I think I'm taking in far too much crap, not enough of the good stuff. Especially at weekends.

I was 12st 11 last night, back overweight again :evil:

So, what are you eating?

Pretty much anything and everything. Today will look something like
Breakfast 1 (pre ride) 1 egg (fried today in olive oil) and 1 piece of toast with coffee
Breakfast 2 (Post ride) banana and half a square of tesco granola. More coffee.
Lunch - a bagel or two with a tin of beans probably put some cheese on there too
Snacks - Caramel wafer, apple or two maybe some kind of chocolate bar
Dinner - something heatly cooked by the boss, last night was chili with a small serving of rice (weight watchers size)
pudding - a chocolate mousse or similar

But other days, I'll go a bit mad and have a sausage roll or two, or a scotch egg. Then at weekends we'll have a beer or two.
I must eat more than I think I do though, I'll start using myfitness pal again.

It's tricky, because if I don't eat enough I'm knackered for the ride home/end of the week, I'm finding it difficult to find the balance between losing a kilo a week and putting weight on.

imatfaal

prawny wrote:

dhope wrote:

prawny wrote:

I'm still managing to put on weight commuting 40 miles a day. I need to take a proper look at what I'm eating, I think I'm taking in far too much crap, not enough of the good stuff. Especially at weekends.

I was 12st 11 last night, back overweight again :evil:

So, what are you eating?

Pretty much anything and everything. Today will look something like
Breakfast 1 (pre ride) 1 egg (fried today in olive oil) and 1 piece of toast with coffee
Breakfast 2 (Post ride) banana and half a square of tesco granola. More coffee.
Lunch - a bagel or two with a tin of beans probably put some cheese on there too
Snacks - Caramel wafer, apple or two maybe some kind of chocolate bar
Dinner - something heatly cooked by the boss, last night was chili with a small serving of rice (weight watchers size)
pudding - a chocolate mousse or similar

But other days, I'll go a bit mad and have a sausage roll or two, or a scotch egg. Then at weekends we'll have a beer or two.
I must eat more than I think I do though, I'll start using myfitness pal again.

It's tricky, because if I don't eat enough I'm knackered for the ride home/end of the week, I'm finding it difficult to find the balance between losing a kilo a week and putting weight on.

Jeez - your metabolism must be set to burn! I would be putting on a kilo or two a week at that rate.

Breakfast one (pre ride) - glass of water :-(
Breakfast two - muesli, tonne of fruit
Lunch - veggie pasta, chilli, risotto etc
Dinner - similar to yours.

Snacks are fruit and veg - and I am a terrible dustbin for other peoples cold left-overs

Weekends are a bit more normal (or abnormal if I am out riding) - but I stopped eating chocolate, biscuits, crisps etc a while ago and frankly there are only odd occasions I miss them.

prawny

Yeah, I think I'm just eating far too much, I didn't realise how many calories was in a tin of beans!

I'm starting logging my food from today, I'm going to cut the crap out and see how I get on.

I could really do with a accurate calorie burn from riding to work, but I fear that even with the HR strap on every day Strava and Garmin are reading high. It gave my 1359kCals for yesterday for 2 hours 34 mins riding, how does that sound?

imatfaal

prawny wrote:

Yeah, I think I'm just eating far too much, I didn't realise how many calories was in a tin of beans!

I'm starting logging my food from today, I'm going to cut the crap out and see how I get on.

I could really do with a accurate calorie burn from riding to work, but I fear that even with the HR strap on every day Strava and Garmin are reading high. It gave my 1359kCals for yesterday for 2 hours 34 mins riding, how does that sound?

I think Strava and Garmin calorie calcs are massively over-inflated (at least for me) - Strava put my 25km / 58min commute at 800 kcal this morning; no chance. How many calories you need and are burning is incredibly hard to calculate (barring hitech biomedicine like doubly labelled water) - best bet is to know how many you are taking in and when you are losing weight it is less than your daily need and vice versa.

Eat less crap and eat fewer calories - drop it gradually till the weight starts to fall. And the only way to do that is what you mention above - keep a food diary. About a few weeks back on this thread you will read me moaning that the weight would not come off - I restarted my food diary and, as if by magic, the kilos started dropping .

dhope

Give myfitnesspal a go, I found it quite useful going from slim to more slim when trying to cheat some free pace for the marathon. Not that it told me too much I didn't know, but it helped a bit with discipline and avoiding too many cakes. I was still getting through the food at quite a rate.

Assuming you can eat before cycling then if I were you I'd go for bigger breakfast and smaller dinner. I tend to start with a bowl of porridge and protein shake with a banana, couple of spoons of Greek yoghurt and wash it down with a black coffee. Then into work. Lunch is large bean salad with a bit of pasta and a couple of pieces of salmon. Dinner tends to be fish and veg, but smaller than either breakfast or lunch.
Calorie-wise that ended up around 700 for breakfast, 900 for lunch. 500 for dinner and then more muesli/banana/milk depending on the amount of exercise.

itboffin

prawny wrote:

Pretty much anything and everything. Today will look something like
Breakfast 1 (pre ride) 1 egg (fried today in olive oil) and 1 piece of toast with coffee
Breakfast 2 (Post ride) banana and half a square of tesco granola. More coffee.
Lunch - a bagel or two with a tin of beans probably put some cheese on there too
Snacks - Caramel wafer, apple or two maybe some kind of chocolate bar
Dinner - something heatly cooked by the boss, last night was chili with a small serving of rice (weight watchers size)
pudding - a chocolate mousse or similar

But other days, I'll go a bit mad and have a sausage roll or two, or a scotch egg. Then at weekends we'll have a beer or two.
I must eat more than I think I do though, I'll start using myfitness pal again.

It's tricky, because if I don't eat enough I'm knackered for the ride home/end of the week, I'm finding it difficult to find the balance between losing a kilo a week and putting weight on.

It's not how much it's what you're eating, i've highlighted all the stuff to stop eating, replace those with real foods and you'll lose weight and have much more energy.

Dont get me wrong i'm far from a health food freak but i do know what not to eat if i really want to lose weight, we dont discuss the booze mind - cutting that out is NOT AN OPTION :?

dhope

What's wrong with eggs? Forgot to mention the 3 a day I have with the salmon/salad

itboffin

fried before you ride?

prawny

TBH fried is once in a blue moon, normally I'll hard boil one or two when I do pasta the night before, but I was hungry this morning and didn't have time to boil one, I'm shite at poaching.

I do eat a fair amount of cheap processed crap though, it's how I've grown up, and I'm addicted to a degree, I know it's not good for me but it's hard break the cycle. Did I mention its cheap too?

I did manage to go to the shop at lunch and avoid buying anything dodgy though so that's a small win 8)

vpnikolov

I am still trying to follow my 6/1 food diet, which consists of:

Breakfast 6:30am (after waking up) - 200gr oats mixed with a scoop of protein (30gr).

Second breakfast 9:30am - 45gr almonds with two apples.

Lunch 12:30am - This is the tricky one... whenever I don't feel lazy, I prep the previous night - 140 gr chicken breast/salmon/beef with 100-200 gr salad (iceberg, corn, cucumber, carrots - a mix of those).

Second lunch 3:30pm - 25gr almonds, sometimes with one protein (30g) shake on the side.

Dinner is around 7:30pm - 140 gr chicken/salmon/beef with 200 gr rice.

At the moment it is more like 5/2 and not 6/1, but that might change soon.

I am a bit on and off, but have lost a kilo while I was on it (for about two weeks). Need to be a bit more consistent and not that lazy...