@ Genesis Equilibrium riders

sketchley · October 2012

samsbike wrote:

Does anyone know of the width of the handlebars on the 56" genesis 10 and also what are the fattest wheels I can fit without fouling.

thanks

I run 28s (conti gator skins and 4 seasons) along with mudguard on mine and it's tight but fine. I also have shimano 650 brakes and it's difficult to get tyre passed blocks fully inflated which isn't a big problem unless taking front wheel off bike for transport in car or locking up. I would not go bigger than 28s especially is running mudguards and be careful of tyre choice as some 28s are bigger than others....

tonye_n · October 2012

samsbike wrote:

Does anyone know of the width of the handlebars on the 56" genesis 10 and also what are the fattest wheels I can fit without fouling.

thanks

42cm c-c and at the hoods.
With mudguards 25c. Without muddies 28c.

samsbike · October 2012

Thank you both.

I was hoping to fit 28 Marathon but looks like its unlikely to fit as I also run mudgards.

How would I know if I would require a 44 set of bars. FWIW my suits are a 42 ish.

thanks

sam

samsbike · October 2012

michel v wrote:

Parcel delivery...

That does look very nice and bright. Much better than the cherry red, imo.

Mark__gti · October 2012

ok, so i cant find stock of the complete equilibrium 20 iv been looking into the idea of building my own but i need some help on afew parts.
What size clamp do i need on the front derailer?
What size seatpost?
Do i need a short or medium rear mech? (want to run compact gearing)

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

jonny_trousers · October 2012

Mark__gti wrote:

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

I think the answers to your other questions can be found in this thread. Undercoverelephant seems to be the go to man where Equilibrium technical details are concerned.

As for the above, there's a chap goes by the name of ugo_santiago on this site who does hand built wheels at fantastic prices. He made me a pair of open pros on novatec hubs for just £200. They're tough enough for the commute and light enough to really make a difference on quick rides. Give him a shout, he has several satisfied customers here.

rrsodl · October 2012

I love steel frames. I wonder what's the weight of this Equilibrium in size 58cm, I bet it's more than a Reynolds 351c 58cm

UndercoverElephant · October 2012

Mark__gti wrote:

ok, so i cant find stock of the complete equilibrium 20 iv been looking into the idea of building my own but i need some help on afew parts.
What size clamp do i need on the front derailer?
What size seatpost?
Do i need a short or medium rear mech? (want to run compact gearing)

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

You'll also need cable barrel-adjusters and a cable guide for the bottom bracket shell, as the frame comes without. It did have a seat-post collar (black), but I used a different 29.8 mm band, because I'd already bought it, and it was silver. FD clamp is a 28.6 mm one. Seat post is the standard 27.2mm.

Compact doubles use short-cage mechs, long cage are for triples or MTB cassettes.

Hand-built is definitely the way for wheels, Spa cycles are usually mentioned, if I didn't build my own, I'd use them.

ck101 · October 2012

Here is my new winter steed, a Genesis Equilibrium 20, SKS Chromoplastic 35's, Pro Logo Scratch, Ritchey Pro Finishing Kit and Mavic Askium wheels. The existing saddle, wheels etc don't do the frame any justice. Surprisingly light and a beautiful bike to ride.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58234209@N02/sets/72157631834274865/

notsoblue · October 2012

Ck101 wrote:

Here is my new winter steed, a Genesis Equilibrium 20, SKS Chromoplastic 35's, Pro Logo Scratch, Ritchey Pro Finishing Kit and Mavic Askium wheels. The existing saddle, wheels etc don't do the frame any justice. Surprisingly light and a beautiful bike to ride.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58234209@N02/sets/72157631834274865/

Lovely bike! I think theres something wrong with the angle of your bars & hoods though.

styxd · October 2012

Ck101 wrote:

Here is my new winter steed, a Genesis Equilibrium 20, SKS Chromoplastic 35's, Pro Logo Scratch, Ritchey Pro Finishing Kit and Mavic Askium wheels. The existing saddle, wheels etc don't do the frame any justice. Surprisingly light and a beautiful bike to ride.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58234209@N02/sets/72157631834274865/

I dont know what you've done to that! Your bars and stem are somewhere up near the moon. You wont be able to see where you're going since your hands will be in your line of sight.

ck101 · October 2012

:-) the camera angle has things looking a little off. It really isn't as bad as it looks in the photo. The photo has been taken on an iPhone from a low angle. I do however have a slipped disc and need a more upright position.

adebisi · October 2012

Mark__gti wrote:

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

Hand built Mavic Open Pros laced around Shimano 105/Ultegra Hubs. Got mine in beautiful silver from Rose Versand for 188€ (£145ish). However, they sell only the 36hole version, which results in ultra tough wheels for a road bike. For a commuter they're a welcome feature, though, since it gives you the confidence needed for jumping up and down on those curbs.

sketchley · October 2012

Mark__gti wrote:

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

Depends on how heavy you are. I'm 18 stone and I run 32 hole Rigida DP18s rims Ultegra Hubs, they look good and are very very strong. Mine came from Harry Rowland (http://www.harryrowland.co.uk/), although they were a bit more than your £200 budget, i'd recommend giving Harry a call and talking about what you are looking for as he's a nice chap and will tell you what you need / can have given your weight, and where and what you ride. When I need new wheels I'll be going back to Harry.

Mark__gti · October 2012

Im only about 68kg so not massively heavy,
I'm still undecided about what frame size to buy and I can't test a bike anywhere as there is no stock in every store I phone.
So who on here rides a 52cm frame and what sort of height are you? I'm between 5"6 and 5"7.

sketchley · October 2012

Mark__gti wrote:

Im only about 68kg so not massively heavy,
I'm still undecided about what frame size to buy and I can't test a bike anywhere as there is no stock in every store I phone.
So who on here rides a 52cm frame and what sort of height are you? I'm between 5"6 and 5"7.

I've got a 56 I'm just under 6ft.

If your in London have you tried mosquito bikes in islington? Also any Evans will get a bike in your size to try if stock is available somewhere in the company, just ask them.

wastegate86 · October 2012

Iv got a 56cm and im 5'9
currently running a 110mm stem which feels about right

Mark__gti · October 2012

Sketchley wrote:

Mark__gti wrote:

Im only about 68kg so not massively heavy,
I'm still undecided about what frame size to buy and I can't test a bike anywhere as there is no stock in every store I phone.
So who on here rides a 52cm frame and what sort of height are you? I'm between 5"6 and 5"7.

I've got a 56 I'm just under 6ft.

If your in London have you tried mosquito bikes in islington? Also any Evans will get a bike in your size to try if stock is available somewhere in the company, just ask them.

Im in devon,
I e-mailed evans and they wanted a £50 refundable deposit to get it to the store (but im guessing refundable means only if you buy the bike??)

Koncordski · October 2012

Evans will refund you, tried quite a few bikes with them in the past and never had an issue getting the deposit back.

Koncordski · October 2012

Oooh, pretty.

http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/road/equilibrium/equilibrium-ti

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sketchley · October 2012

Koncordski wrote:

Oooh, pretty.

http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/road/equilibrium/equilibrium-ti

8)

It is, but it's quite a bit of cash at £2.3k for what it is. A custom Ti frame (which could be made to same diamentions) from someone like Burls would cost about the £1k mark including a carbon fork, 105 Group £400, Handmade Wheels DT Swiss R 450 32H on Shimano 105 Hubs we be about £200 or so depending where you went, another £200 for finishing kit, £100 for the build and you are at £1.9k that's £400 quid cheaper. So still plenty to play with for upgrades etc.

mlpinto · October 2012

I'm looking at joining the Equilibrium club, and fancy building up a bike. However, the bike tart in me doesn't really like the orangey colour of the current frame.

Does anyone happen to know of anywhere that still has stock of the 2012 red frames?

Cheers!

sketchley · October 2012

mlpinto wrote:

I'm looking at joining the Equilibrium club, and fancy building up a bike. However, the bike tart in me doesn't really like the orangey colour of the current frame.

Does anyone happen to know of anywhere that still has stock of the 2012 red frames?

Cheers!

The paint on the red frames isn't great, chips really easily. No idea if Orange is better. But you may find it better get a frame and have it resprayed or powder coated. A second hand frame or even bike might be good for this if you can find one.

mlpinto · October 2012

Sketchley wrote:

The paint on the red frames isn't great, chips really easily. No idea if Orange is better. But you may find it better get a frame and have it resprayed or powder coated. A second hand frame or even bike might be good for this if you can find one.

Thanks for the advice. I'd be happy with a second hand one and getting it powder coated, but there don't seem to be many about! I'll keep an eye on the for sale forum...

Cheers

nigglenoo · October 2012

Pics of an Audax orientated build I put together in October last year:

I have done about 5000 miles on it and it really does ride very nicely, I'm still in love with it. Yes the bars are quite high but thats how I like them for long Audax rides, longest this year was the 207k/ Four Hundreds 200 and the bike is fabulous for this use, super comfortable yet controllable on the twisty lanes and descents.

Original build details:

Running gear from a Specialized Allez Sport Triple, which included 32h Alex S500 wheels and Vittoria Rubino Pro 700x28c tyres (recent replacement for £45 the pair), Sora Triple chainset with Hollowtech 2 external BB, Sora STIs, Tiagra 9-speed medium cage rear mech, Specialized stem, bars (compact anatomic) and unbranded two bolt seat post. Also transferred over my saggy old Brooks B17 Narrow and added a second hand set of 35mm SKS mudguards I picked up previously for £10.

New bits:

Genesis Equilibrium 2011 52cm frame in cherry red: £240 posted
Cannodale Ultra Slice carbon forks (SJS special offer) £60 + £5 delivery
Headset FSA Orbit X from Wiggle, £29
Tektro R737 deep drop brakes, £33
Tiagra 9-speed triple front mech £25

Upgrades:

Kool Stop Dual Compound pads were fitted straight away as I do not trust Tektro pads, they wore out the rims on another bike in really quick time.

26T Onza Buzz Saw inner chain ring replaced the 30T before the Dartmoor Devil last year, to give a 28" bottom gear.

Carradice Junior saddlebag.

36H wheelset from Rose Bikes for about £150 about 6 months ago built with their rebadged Miche hubs.

EDIT: SJS are still knocking out those Cannondale carbon forks for £59.99 and they ride really nicely: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cannondale-7 ... prod26862/

wastegate86 · October 2012

Must agree paint isn't very strong on my 2011 black 10
Wouldn't recommend powder coating a frame though unless you can do something with the OEM decals
Personally think frames look a bit naff just one plain colour

EightOhEight · October 2012

nigglenoo wrote:

Upgrades:

Kool Stop Dual Compound pads were fitted straight away as I do not trust Tektro pads, they wore out the rims on another bike in really quick time.

Was it these pads?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=46437&gclid=CNfNj93ZqbMCFWbKtAodyUQAoA
I need to replace the Tektro pads on my Genesis (Tektro BR358 57 mm).
Cheers
808

sketchley · October 2012

EightOhEight wrote:

nigglenoo wrote:

Upgrades:

Kool Stop Dual Compound pads were fitted straight away as I do not trust Tektro pads, they wore out the rims on another bike in really quick time.

Was it these pads?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=46437&gclid=CNfNj93ZqbMCFWbKtAodyUQAoA
I need to replace the Tektro pads on my Genesis (Tektro BR358 57 mm).
Cheers
808

On mine first I replace pad with cartridge shoe and pads off eBay, then the pads with swisstop green, then eventually these http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... himbrar360 @ £54.60 for the pair it's a very good price for what are effectively Ultegra level brakes. Standard pads they come with are fine, but when worn an upgrade to Swissstop green or similar is worth it. The difference between the shimano 650 and the standard callipers is huge and worth the investment. I wish I hadn't wasted money upgrading shoes and pads first.......

nigglenoo · October 2012

EightOhEight wrote:

nigglenoo wrote:

Upgrades:

Kool Stop Dual Compound pads were fitted straight away as I do not trust Tektro pads, they wore out the rims on another bike in really quick time.

Was it these pads?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=46437&gclid=CNfNj93ZqbMCFWbKtAodyUQAoA
I need to replace the Tektro pads on my Genesis (Tektro BR358 57 mm).
Cheers
808

No the R737s come with the cartridge type so I only had to swap out the inserts: http://www.dotbike.com/p/3109

You would be better off buying this set to start with: http://www.dotbike.com/p/5993

I am very happy with the brakes, gave them a really thorough testing on Sunday on the Dartmoor Devil audax and they were totally reliable in very bad conditions.

samsbike · October 2012

A bit of a tangent but has anyone ridden a croix der fer and an equilibrium back to back? The new model in blacm looks nice and I am tempted by the disc brakes and fatter wheels (which I am hoping are more comfortable than the 25 s I am running)

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