The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    I've done rural Worcestershire and rural Devon so far.
    Unless my MIL moves, she is housebound following a stroke which means she's not allowed to drive.

    All the bus routes, etc, have all been shut down. That's basic. She's in the burbs of a big town. No-one there cycles - it's lethal if you do - and everyone drives.
    Is this true? People used to tell me that about London after I'd cycled there for years.
    I've done both and I'd chose London over the roads there.
    _
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,105
    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    I've done rural Worcestershire and rural Devon so far.
    Unless my MIL moves, she is housebound following a stroke which means she's not allowed to drive.

    All the bus routes, etc, have all been shut down. That's basic. She's in the burbs of a big town. No-one there cycles - it's lethal if you do - and everyone drives.
    I'm not suggesting improvement to PT wouldn't be hugely valuable. Just disputing the 'it can't be done/there's no point trying' from some quarters.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    davebradswmb said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Civilisations have failed, but then new ones arise. Then when the jumps made into space...

    I don't get either the point of an advanced intelligence eradicating each other when the Universe is so vast and expanding. Why fight when you can find other planets.

    There must be Solar systems which are lucky enough to have habital planets close by aiding the evolutionary jump.

    That's an optimistic view, but I think the likes of Stevo will ensure the destruction of this planet before we find another planet we can live on. And that is how the Great Filter works.
    It sounds like the bigger threat to mankind is disappearing up our own backsides trying to be virtuous.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    I've done rural Worcestershire and rural Devon so far.
    Unless my MIL moves, she is housebound following a stroke which means she's not allowed to drive.

    All the bus routes, etc, have all been shut down. That's basic. She's in the burbs of a big town. No-one there cycles - it's lethal if you do - and everyone drives.
    Is this true? People used to tell me that about London after I'd cycled there for years.
    I've done both and I'd chose London over the roads there.
    think of all the others who don't cycle because nobody else does, this is your chance to make a difference
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    Surely that's what us country bumpkins have been arguing throughout a lot of this thread.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    I've done rural Worcestershire and rural Devon so far.
    Unless my MIL moves, she is housebound following a stroke which means she's not allowed to drive.

    All the bus routes, etc, have all been shut down. That's basic. She's in the burbs of a big town. No-one there cycles - it's lethal if you do - and everyone drives.
    I'm not suggesting improvement to PT wouldn't be hugely valuable. Just disputing the 'it can't be done/there's no point trying' from some quarters.
    If the car is by far and away the rational option, be it convenience, price etc, then you’re not gonna stop people using it.

    It’s not about being able to get around. It’s a system that makes efficient mass travel the most practical personals choice too!
    _
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,105
    Stevo_666 said:

    davebradswmb said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Civilisations have failed, but then new ones arise. Then when the jumps made into space...

    I don't get either the point of an advanced intelligence eradicating each other when the Universe is so vast and expanding. Why fight when you can find other planets.

    There must be Solar systems which are lucky enough to have habital planets close by aiding the evolutionary jump.

    That's an optimistic view, but I think the likes of Stevo will ensure the destruction of this planet before we find another planet we can live on. And that is how the Great Filter works.
    It sounds like the bigger threat to mankind is disappearing up our own backsides trying to be virtuous.
    Just enlightened self interest. Virtue has nothing to do with it.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    davebradswmb said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Civilisations have failed, but then new ones arise. Then when the jumps made into space...

    I don't get either the point of an advanced intelligence eradicating each other when the Universe is so vast and expanding. Why fight when you can find other planets.

    There must be Solar systems which are lucky enough to have habital planets close by aiding the evolutionary jump.

    That's an optimistic view, but I think the likes of Stevo will ensure the destruction of this planet before we find another planet we can live on. And that is how the Great Filter works.
    It sounds like the bigger threat to mankind is disappearing up our own backsides trying to be virtuous.
    Just enlightened self interest. Virtue has nothing to do with it.
    Funny, that's what I would call my position on this too :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    kingstongraham said:

    This is what I mean - I don't think Stevo driving his car in a way that makes it go more brrm brrm is going to be the thing that makes the difference between killing the planet or not.

    Oh, I dunno, 'Stevo, the destroyer of planets' has a bit of a ring to it.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,105
    Planet singular. Don't get above yourself 😁
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,097
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    Surely that's what us country bumpkins have been arguing throughout a lot of this thread.
    You what?!

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    You could use a taxi and hire a car for long trip. There is an alternative for you.

    That’s too expensive!
    Surely you'd get a fair chunk for you're car then there are the costs of keeping it on the road. You've already said you don't use it much.
    Not sure you quite appreciate how expensive taxis & rentals are nowadays.

    I know a millionaire who does that. Alas, that’s not me.
    Being virtuous and leading by example doesnt' always come cheap. .
    That's literally my point.
    You can pay up front or pay taxes to subsidise the future infrastructure.
    Be under no illusion, you will pay.
    Paying for lease cars and taxis is not investment in future proofing the system
    When you *can't* use a car, you realise that it isn't actually as difficult as some would have you believe.
    Depends where you are. That's again, my point.

    Surely that's what us country bumpkins have been arguing throughout a lot of this thread.
    You what?!

    In Ricktopia, if you're not a bus taking, ebike riding urban dweller then you're a country bumpkin. Apparently the suburbs don't exist.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • davebradswmb
    davebradswmb Posts: 518
    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 7,926
    davebradswmb said:

    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .

    Look, I'm sorry. Until Rick sells his car, Stevo is perfectly entitled to carry on destroying planets.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    davebradswmb said:

    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .

    I just putting forward my views, which are probably more in line with the majority in the UK than yours.

    Also a bit of wee wee taking of silly views never goes amiss.

    Sorry if you don't like that :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    focuszing723 said:

    davebradswmb said:

    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .

    Look, I'm sorry. Until Rick sells his car, Stevo is perfectly entitled to carry on destroying planets.
    I did say above that if the issue was important enough, Rick should be willing to make some sacrifices. He dodged that question, so I guess it isn't that important...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,163
    Stevo_666 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    davebradswmb said:

    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .

    Look, I'm sorry. Until Rick sells his car, Stevo is perfectly entitled to carry on destroying planets.
    I did say above that if the issue was important enough, Rick should be willing to make some sacrifices. He dodged that question, so I guess it isn't that important...
    He's responded to this numerous times to various people. The point he is making is that the infrastructure currently doesn't allow it. Despite all the cries of hypocrisy by Rick it isn't really as his 'vision' relies on the infrastructure being in place to move away from car reliance.

    That said, his original views on this seemed to be 'tough luck' to that minority of people who are still in his current position once the infrastructure does get in place and that they should just accept prohibitively expensive car use as a price they pay to continue to live in the countryside. If there's some hypocrisy in his thinking then I would suggest that is where it lies and instead of picking up on him currently owning a car it should be on him choosing to live somewhere that he occasionally needs one.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,541
    I just find it odd, as someone who doesn't have a car, that it's not possible to survive without one.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    TheBigBean said:

    I just find it odd, as someone who doesn't have a car, that it's not possible to survive without one.

    As people have mentioned a few times, how easy or difficult it is can depend on where you live. As I recall, you live in central or inner London?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    Pross said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    davebradswmb said:

    Funny how when Stevo started this thread he said he set it up for Rick. Funny how Stevo's posted way more than Rick, pretty much 50% of the posts. It's been a remarkably succesful thread despite Stevo's attempts to derail it, it hasn't even been particularly dull so long as you ignore his posts .

    Look, I'm sorry. Until Rick sells his car, Stevo is perfectly entitled to carry on destroying planets.
    I did say above that if the issue was important enough, Rick should be willing to make some sacrifices. He dodged that question, so I guess it isn't that important...
    He's responded to this numerous times to various people. The point he is making is that the infrastructure currently doesn't allow it. Despite all the cries of hypocrisy by Rick it isn't really as his 'vision' relies on the infrastructure being in place to move away from car reliance.

    That said, his original views on this seemed to be 'tough luck' to that minority of people who are still in his current position once the infrastructure does get in place and that they should just accept prohibitively expensive car use as a price they pay to continue to live in the countryside. If there's some hypocrisy in his thinking then I would suggest that is where it lies and instead of picking up on him currently owning a car it should be on him choosing to live somewhere that he occasionally needs one.
    See BB's post - he thinks it's easy to get by without one.

    As for the reality of all this magical infrastructure to cover the majority country, well that's where things get more into wishful thinking. Or we could keep using cars where appropriate as they seem to work OK for most people...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,604
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,163
    FWIW my wife's car has been off the road for a few weeks as it has a turbo problem. It's driveable if absolutely necessary but she has been using my car (really can't do her job without it). We've managed with just the one but it has meant having to rearrange things when we would have both needed a car. If I was working in an office I'd have still been able to manage but it is the nice but not essential things where it becomes a problem e.g. she runs a choir for adults with learning disabilities on a Saturday morning but I had to get our daughter to a job that wasn't practical by public transport and hiring a car / using a taxi would have cost more than she made from the job so the choir got cancelled.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,396
    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    _
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 7,926
    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    Ricktopia is in tatters, it promised so much.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    Ricktopia is in tatters, it promised so much.
    Unfortunately reality got in the way.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,981
    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    It is how you look at systems if the other 70 odd million make the same choice though.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,768
    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    It is how you look at systems if the other 70 odd million make the same choice though.
    How is it a choice?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,981
    kingstongraham said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    It is how you look at systems if the other 70 odd million make the same choice though.
    How is it a choice?
    Choosing to use a car is a choice.
    This is where convenience trumps green credentials.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,641
    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    pblakeney said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Rick has said he uses his car no more than once a fortnight. That would suggest that the infrastructure is there for his chosen lifestyle, and as the Salty one suggests, he could sell th Polo and then just hire when needed.
    However, whether economically worthwhile to do so will depend on how much he might get for the Polo.

    I am literally one person in a nation of 70 odd million.

    This is not how you look at systems.
    It is how you look at systems if the other 70 odd million make the same choice though.
    How is it a choice?
    Choosing to use a car is a choice.
    This is where convenience trumps green credentials.
    Another example of how some in the Cake Stop bubble are a bit out of touch with the rest the country on this,
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]

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