The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)
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This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And a victory for common sense in Cambridbe, of all places:
https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/09/29/left-driving-anthony-browne-penalise-motorists-khan-ulez/
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Loads of self-entitled people like everywhere else. Any slight inconvenience to them sends them frothing at the mouth whereas them inconveniencing others is obviously fine.Stevo_666 said:
I guess here must a lot of thickos in Wales then, given that the petition has almost 450,000 signaturesPross said:My favourite is the argument that 20mph is less safe because either a) "you're constantly looking at your speedo", apparently 20mph is some weird speed people need to stare at their speedo to comply with whereas higher speeds (when looking at your speedo would be even more dangerous) don't require this or b) "you're going to drive into the back of other cars more often because they are going so slowly" for some reason driving below 30mph must stop you being able to see things in front of you and / or operate the brakes.
The main mouthpiece arguing against the 20mph limits in the Welsh Government is the thickasshit Tory candidate in my constituency.
Anyway, the vote of no confidence in Lee Waters failed miserably which is hardly a surprise considering the policy had been voted through with a big majority just a couple of weeks ago as it had when originally proposed. If they wanted a vote of no confidence in him then it would have been better to have used his block on building any new major roads in Wales which is pretty flawed in my opinion.0 -
Is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?0 -
Blanket speed limits are ridiculous, we should have a blanket 30mph is the policy?0
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Got to be honest. 20mph as a speed to travel at hasn't been so bad.
However, the long trains of cars that are forming is ridiculous. T junctions have become a tedious joke. Cars just pull out whether or not there's a gap.
Traffic chicanes where cars coming the other way have priority are like black holes. You wonder if you're ever going to escape. I lost 20 minutes on a 10 minute drive yesterday due to one of those.
Traffic calming needs a radical redesign to compensate for this 20mph speed limit.0 -
Are they doing 20? If so, what's the issue?0
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I agree. The speed at which my wife swipes the blanket off me during winter is incredible!kingstongraham said:Blanket speed limits are ridiculous,...
Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.
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Off you indicates that you had it on you in the first place.photonic69 said:
I agree. The speed at which my wife swipes the blanket off me during winter is incredible!kingstongraham said:Blanket speed limits are ridiculous,...
Respect! 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It's a small village high street.kingstongraham said:
Is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.0 -
Likely more interested in preventing damage to cars.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
In that particular case, yes. What most people object to is blanket 20mph limits.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
In that particular case, yes. What most people object to is blanket 20mph limits.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.
Glad you agree that slowing cars down can improve safety.
'Most' people in Wales support the 20mph limit in urban areas. 46/34, which is rather more convincing that 52/48.
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But is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
It's a small village high street.kingstongraham said:
Is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.0 -
Did you hear? Cycle lanes are now woke.0
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They’re usually to the left as well.kingstongraham said:Did you hear? Cycle lanes are now woke.
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I thought we'd established that there weren't blanket speed limits. There's even a helpful map identifying all the bits that aren't 20mph.Stevo_666 said:
In that particular case, yes. What most people object to is blanket 20mph limits.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.
https://datamap.gov.wales/maps/roads-affected-by-changes-to-the-speed-limit-on-re/1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Blanket is the party approved term, despite the facts.
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Not to mention that there is "blanket" support for the policy in Wales as shown above, and contrary to what Sunak says. He really is desperate for motorists votes.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
Not to mention that there is "blanket" support for the policy in Wales as shown above, and contrary to what Sunak says. He really is desperate for motorists votes.
Yeah, it's not at all subtle, is it. All on the back of a by-election that they only just avoided losing, with a 7.4% swing away from the Tories. But if that's their definition of 'success'...0 -
Literally campaigning against a thing that doesn't exist.kingstongraham said:Blanket is the party approved term, despite the facts.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I don't know.kingstongraham said:
But is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
It's a small village high street.kingstongraham said:
Is it a main road?Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
As I've said before, in specific cases it can do. My village is one of those specific cases.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In that particular case, yes. What most people object to is blanket 20mph limits.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.
Glad you agree that slowing cars down can improve safety.
'Most' people in Wales support the 20mph limit in urban areas. 46/34, which is rather more convincing that 52/48.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Sounds like we're all on the same page then!Stevo_666 said:
As I've said before, in specific cases it can do. My village is one of those specific cases.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
In that particular case, yes. What most people object to is blanket 20mph limits.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
There is a narrow point with a blind bend.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
This question? Missed it as have been busy.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
I think I remember you saying there's a 20mph limit in the middle of your village... would you be in favour of raising that back to 30mph?
As already explained there are a few cases where a 20mph limit is reasonable and the case in my village is one of those.
Thanks. So what is the reason it's sensible in your village?
So slowing traffic down makes it less likely that someone will be seriously injured, I guess. Good idea.
Glad you agree that slowing cars down can improve safety.
'Most' people in Wales support the 20mph limit in urban areas. 46/34, which is rather more convincing that 52/48.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I don't understand why drivists want more cars on the road. Anyway, sunak has launched his attack on people who like roads to allow movement and people not to be frightened.0
