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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned - on more than one occasion - that nobody here has actually ever suggested 'banning' the TT.

    The IOM TT should be banned, it's just too dangerous for people, society and the Cakestop spirit, huff.

    Quotes, speak louder than words!
    Sounds like Rick was spot on about you.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    #banfun
    #compulsorymudguards
    #compulsoryclubmembership
    #handwriningingsuburbanlife

    I take issue with mudguards, they're just practical heaven.
    Agree.

    Practical should be the new fun i reckon.

    Photochromatic glasses so no stupid looking sunglasses, just practical eye pro in all conditions

    Matching kit

    Cardigans

    Mudguards

    Stout shoes for everyone

    Club membership compulsory - whether it be recreational club, sporting club, affiliated to eorkplace for communting - this will help both police cyclists who break the law and group med insurance will cover any accident medical costs.

    Deffo, deffo, deffo look at banning motorbikes as the are just deathtraps.

    #bantheTT
    #compulsorypracticality
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned - on more than one occasion - that nobody here has actually ever suggested 'banning' the TT.

    The IOM TT should be banned, it's just too dangerous for people, society and the Cakestop spirit, huff.

    Quotes, speak louder than words!
    Sounds like Rick was spot on about you.
    OK then. Thanks for telling me.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,961
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    If this event had never happened in the past and someone mooted about bringing it into existence in 2022/23 then it would never, ever get off the ground. I guess if the competitors really wanted to do something heroic then give them some anti-tank shoulder launched missiles and send them off to the Ukraine to fight the Russkis.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned - on more than one occasion - that nobody here has actually ever suggested 'banning' the TT.

    The IOM TT should be banned, it's just too dangerous for people, society and the Cakestop spirit, huff.

    Quotes, speak louder than words!
    Sounds like Rick was spot on about you.
    But he quoted right - ie you - yah?

    #justwonderin'
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Chances of this thread reaching a consensus - 0
    Chances of this thread running till the start of next year's IoMTT - 65

    If this event had never happened in the past and someone mooted about bringing it into existence in 2022/23 then it would never, ever get off the ground. I guess if the competitors really wanted to do something heroic then give them some anti-tank shoulder launched missiles and send them off to the Ukraine to fight the Russkis.

    Why would they do that?

    They don't think they are doing anything heroic

    They aren't soldiers (well, I think the crabs had a bod doing it a couple of years ago but he doesn't count)

    The Ukranians wouldn't want them

    What a bizarre thing to say.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    edited June 2022
    MattFalle said:

    Seriously though, if you did ban the TT and all the other dangerous stuff it would mean that society has less of a burden to carry people.

    I assume you can read and just haven't bothered.
    Pretty much the only person wanging on about a ban is you.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    While we are at it can we ban Macau as well where they do thisshiton every lsp at nearly every corner?


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited June 2022
    rjsterry said:

    MattFalle said:

    Seriously though, if you did ban the TT and all the other dangerous stuff it would mean that society has less of a burden to carry people.

    Simple question: can you read?
    Yes, although it does pain us to read the tripe you post a lot of the time.

    Go on then McPint, three reasons why we shouldn't ban the #deathfest that is the TT

    Bet you can't justify its existence
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    edited June 2022
    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:

    MattFalle said:

    Seriously though, if you did ban the TT and all the other dangerous stuff it would mean that society has less of a burden to carry people.

    Simple question: can you read?
    Yes, although it does pain us to read the tripe you post a lot of the time.

    Go on then McPint, three reasons why we shouldn't ban the #deathfest that is the TT

    Bet you can't justify its existence
    Who wants to ban anything?

    Show me where anyone other than you has argued for banning anything.

    That people want to race and the organisers want to continue is more than enough reason for it to exist.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Imposter for one did as pointed out by Focuszing about 7 posts sbove.

    Or are you now calling Focuszing a liar?

    But nice try at throwing a dead cat - you can't actually come up with any reasons why it should go shead spart from'well people wanna do it. Innit,'

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,491
    I go on a 4hr bike ride and come back to this shitfest.

    Great innit?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,491
    ...and now a curve ball:

    Who bets on the Grand National ay Aintree?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,589
    MattFalle said:

    Imposter for one did as pointed out by Focuszing about 7 posts sbove.

    Or are you now calling Focuszing a liar?

    But nice try at throwing a dead cat - you can't actually come up with any reasons why it should go shead spart from'well people wanna do it. Innit,'

    I'm pretty sure that second quote was something he made up (hence the changed name).
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited June 2022
    Lets take a moment here at this juncture. What have were learnt?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pinno said:

    I go on a 4hr bike ride and come back to this shitfest.

    Great innit?

    What - the bike ride or the #shitfest
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pinno said:

    I go on a 4hr bike ride and come back to this shitfest.

    Great innit?

    What - the bike ride or the #sh
    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    Imposter for one did as pointed out by Focuszing about 7 posts sbove.

    Or are you now calling Focuszing a liar?

    But nice try at throwing a dead cat - you can't actually come up with any reasons why it should go shead spart from'well people wanna do it. Innit,'

    I'm pretty sure that second quote was something he made up (hence the changed name).
    Not sure tbh, I just take things at face value, much like when Rick said he wasn't a snowflake suburbia dwelling hand wringer.

    Just an innocent creature, me, devoid of anger, jealousy or rage.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Lets take a moment here at the juncture. What have were learnt?

    That people want the TT banned, then they don't, then they do, then they want to send motorbike racers to fight Russian tanks in Ukraine.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,589
    This was Imposter's first post on the subject for what it's worth:

    "IoM TT - perfect example of a classic road circuit being incompatible with today's high performance machines and the speeds they travel at. The very definition of a 'death trap' IMO.

    Would I ban it? No - free choice n all that. However, I can see it getting to the stage where the IoM govt would have to do something about it. I can't see that happening though, as it's such a massive revenue generator over there.

    If you were to put on a sporting event where you were certain that at least five people would die at it - would you cancel it or let it take place..?"
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    MattFalle said:

    Lets take a moment here at the juncture. What have were learnt?

    That people want the TT banned, then they don't, then they do, then they want to send motorbike racers to fight Russian tanks in Ukraine.
    Cheers Matt.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited June 2022
    So Focuszing changed the quote to suit his own needs?

    #bstard
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    pinno said:

    I go on a 4hr bike ride and come back to this shitfest.

    Great innit?

    Not sure what's happened. Seemed fairly good natured this morning. Now for some reason MF is asking me to justify the existence of the TT 🤷🏻‍♂️. I can't say I care much either way.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    pinno said:

    ...and now a curve ball:

    Who bets on the Grand National ay Aintree?

    I used to, but haven't watched it for years now. Too many dead horses.

    When they tried yet again to improve the safety and then a horse as good as synchronised still died, I just accepted it's not worth it.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Depends if you value the life of horse as much as people, surely?

    I mean, I eat horsemeat when I'm abroad from time to time, so I'm hardly going to be too prissy about horses.

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,491
    MattFalle said:

    So Focuszing changed the quote to suit his own needs?

    #bstard

    So he's a pathetic thick stupid bstard now?

    When does it end?

    Not now. Not after this post.

    We enjoy the luxuries of the West from healthcare to a certain standard of living and one could effectively argue that often this is at the expense of other human beings and the environment.
    There are sufficient numbers of drug users in the UK who's activities fuel an insidious drug industry where barons exploit and where often the money is used to finance civil wars where very young boys are given guns and are trained to shoot them.
    ...and of course Diamond mining for the bling on the necks and the wrists and the fingers of the rich - where there is enforced and slave labour to extract them and this finances... you see where I am going. I could go on ad infinitum. But of course we don't see that 'cos we live in the cosseted, 'safe' developed world.
    We are directly and indirectly responsible for climate change and all the implications of that.
    Maybe the smog and pollution from factories that smelt and purify Bauxite under less stringent rules that kills people and marine life in foreign countries because of our Aluminium consumption is not at the forefront of our minds but it happens. The Aluminium that forms the fuselage of the Airplane which we climb on to jet off to sunny climbs has probably been made at the expense of people's lives and the environment but we don't think about that.
    [You can read the abstract if you want the link]

    Alcoholism in the UK kills approx. 8000 per annum.
    Drug addiction: 4500
    Road deaths 1750 (2019)
    Heart disease: 160,000 per annum
    Cancer: 167,000
    Smoking: 78,000

    Yet having a motorbike race in your back yard where people do and can die gets people jumping up and down a bit.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited June 2022
    If you're OK with watching an entertainment spectacle where it's likely that over the weekend at least someone will die entertaining you, that's your business.

    Most people I think probably aren't, and although they enjoy seeing people take risks, they don't enjoy seeing people die.

    That's why most mainstream sports which have had risky elements and deaths/serious injuries have done quite a bit to improve the safety. I'm not convinced the people who organise this race have put in the same effort, given where they are regarding the death rate.

    I'm sure people will argue that the riders would do it with or without a crowd, and certainly that's true, but it must surely take away from the spectacle and put people off enjoying the sport.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    Imposter for one did as pointed out by Focuszing about 7 posts sbove.

    Or are you now calling Focuszing a liar?

    But nice try at throwing a dead cat - you can't actually come up with any reasons why it should go shead spart from'well people wanna do it. Innit,'

    For the sake of clarity - that was a made up quote. So yes, Focuszing is a liar. Like everyone else, I have never suggested a ban.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Lets take a moment here at this juncture. What have were learnt?

    We've learnt that you make up quotes in order to make a juvenile gag worthy of a 10 year old. Unless you are actually 10....
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    While we are at it can we ban Macau as well where they do thisshiton every lsp at nearly every corner?


    Have you ever actually been to Macau, or the NW200, or the Ulster GP, or the IoM TT - or are you just a bit of a sad fanboy with an R6 sitting in the garage..??
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    If you're OK with watching an entertainment spectacle where it's likely that over the weekend at least someone will die entertaining you, that's your business.

    Most people I think probably aren't, and although they enjoy seeing people take risks, they don't enjoy seeing people die.

    That's why most mainstream sports which have had risky elements and deaths/serious injuries have done quite a bit to improve the safety. I'm not convinced the people who organise this race have put in the same effort, given where they are regarding the death rate.

    I'm sure people will argue that the riders would do it with or without a crowd, and certainly that's true, but it must surely take away from the spectacle and put people off enjoying the sport.

    winner of the TT is the fastest rider round the track

    the winner of a boxing match is the one who punches the other in the head so much that it scrambles his brain so he can no longer stand up.

    The TT is low on the list of sports events that need banning. Many years ago it was on the world championship circuit but riders campaigned to have it removed as they felt the ranking points meant they were being forced to enter a race they deemed too dangerous. This was in the era of Barry Sheene so my memory may be playing tricks on me