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'Reporting differences' don't change the overall number of dead. Not in this case, anyway...kingstongraham said:
Because I said what I was using as the basis for a question when someone mentioned reporting differences?imposter2.0 said:
Already posted on page 1. This thread may have run its course...kingstongraham said:
Just looking at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountain_Course_fatalitiesmonkimark said:The August/september events format changed in mid 2000's to split out the classic bikes but I can't remember the exact details - may be just the way it is reported that now covers fewer classes?
kingstongraham said:Did something change about the August event different to the June event in 2016? Looks like there has been a reduction in deaths in the August one since 2015 (only two in four years), but not in the June one. Or is there just going to be a reversion to the mean?
I guess you also don't know the answer then.0 -
So do you know if there have changes made to the August event that mean there are fewer deaths (in that list) in the last few years, but no fewer deaths in June?imposter2.0 said:
'Reporting differences' don't change the overall number of dead. Not in this case, anyway...kingstongraham said:
Because I said what I was using as the basis for a question when someone mentioned reporting differences?imposter2.0 said:
Already posted on page 1. This thread may have run its course...kingstongraham said:
Just looking at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountain_Course_fatalitiesmonkimark said:The August/september events format changed in mid 2000's to split out the classic bikes but I can't remember the exact details - may be just the way it is reported that now covers fewer classes?
kingstongraham said:Did something change about the August event different to the June event in 2016? Looks like there has been a reduction in deaths in the August one since 2015 (only two in four years), but not in the June one. Or is there just going to be a reversion to the mean?
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Out of interest, what do Imp and Ugo do for kicks - you know adrenaline kicks, the kind that get you all giggly and nervous and smiling insanely?
#shits'n'giggles.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
No. 100% not.
Personal choice to do it.
Iconic. Greatest racing event of greatest, bravest sport in the world.
And if you do, where are you going to stop? Irish roads? Macau? Slovenia?
100% utterly, totally not.
100% ^^^This^^^ for me.
There is pretty much zero chance that the IOM government would want to ban it as it brings in way too much money for the island & if you tried to alter the course / bikes or whatever to make the race safer, I would suspect the biggest opposition would be from the riders themselves.
Absolute nutters they may well be but they know the risks.0 -
No I don't know. I would imagine it would be pretty easy to find out though...kingstongraham said:
So do you know if there have changes made to the August event that mean there are fewer deaths (in that list) in the last few years, but no fewer deaths in June?imposter2.0 said:
'Reporting differences' don't change the overall number of dead. Not in this case, anyway...kingstongraham said:
Because I said what I was using as the basis for a question when someone mentioned reporting differences?imposter2.0 said:
Already posted on page 1. This thread may have run its course...kingstongraham said:
Just looking at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountain_Course_fatalitiesmonkimark said:The August/september events format changed in mid 2000's to split out the classic bikes but I can't remember the exact details - may be just the way it is reported that now covers fewer classes?
kingstongraham said:Did something change about the August event different to the June event in 2016? Looks like there has been a reduction in deaths in the August one since 2015 (only two in four years), but not in the June one. Or is there just going to be a reversion to the mean?
I guess you also don't know the answer then.0 -
I thought I'd ask some people who seemed to have an interest.imposter2.0 said:
No I don't know. I would imagine it would be pretty easy to find out though...kingstongraham said:
So do you know if there have changes made to the August event that mean there are fewer deaths (in that list) in the last few years, but no fewer deaths in June?imposter2.0 said:
'Reporting differences' don't change the overall number of dead. Not in this case, anyway...kingstongraham said:
Because I said what I was using as the basis for a question when someone mentioned reporting differences?imposter2.0 said:
Already posted on page 1. This thread may have run its course...kingstongraham said:
Just looking at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountain_Course_fatalitiesmonkimark said:The August/september events format changed in mid 2000's to split out the classic bikes but I can't remember the exact details - may be just the way it is reported that now covers fewer classes?
kingstongraham said:Did something change about the August event different to the June event in 2016? Looks like there has been a reduction in deaths in the August one since 2015 (only two in four years), but not in the June one. Or is there just going to be a reversion to the mean?
I guess you also don't know the answer then.0 -
Did he? Where? Happy to see this as this thread is now so long.Pross said:
Well, Imposter has already said he used to race motorbikes (track and motorcross).MattFalle said:Out of interest, what do Imp and Ugo do for kicks - you know adrenaline kicks, the kind that get you all giggly and nervous and smiling insanely?
#shits'n'giggles
And now?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Page 5, third post down but you started banging on about club 10s and 3rd cat road racing in response.MattFalle said:
Did he? Where? Happy to see this as this thread is now so long.Pross said:
Well, Imposter has already said he used to race motorbikes (track and motorcross).MattFalle said:Out of interest, what do Imp and Ugo do for kicks - you know adrenaline kicks, the kind that get you all giggly and nervous and smiling insanely?
#shits'n'giggles
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In normal sports, a death or a serious injury facilitates change or at least a discussion on how to change things.
It's remarkable this sport does not seem to want to do that.0 -
No but if races that were previously considered to be part of the classic TT are now part of the Manx GP or vice versa, possibly the deaths wouldn't show up on the list that KG posted, which is just for the TT - it wouldn't make any difference to the riders concerned obviously.
The change in figures roughly corelates to the change in organisation, which is why I metioned it - I honestly have no idea what the reason is.
FWIW I think the classic/TT/MGP all use exactly the same course and in a lot of cases riders and (more or less) bikes so i doubt there is a major difference in procedure that accounts for the difference.imposter2.0 said:
'Reporting differences' don't change the overall number of dead. Not in this case, anyway...kingstongraham said:
Because I said what I was using as the basis for a question when someone mentioned reporting differences?imposter2.0 said:
Already posted on page 1. This thread may have run its course...kingstongraham said:
Just looking at this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountain_Course_fatalitiesmonkimark said:The August/september events format changed in mid 2000's to split out the classic bikes but I can't remember the exact details - may be just the way it is reported that now covers fewer classes?
kingstongraham said:Did something change about the August event different to the June event in 2016? Looks like there has been a reduction in deaths in the August one since 2015 (only two in four years), but not in the June one. Or is there just going to be a reversion to the mean?
I guess you also don't know the answer then.0 -
It's his favourite subject...Pross said:
Page 5, third post down but you started banging on about club 10s and 3rd cat road racing in response.MattFalle said:
Did he? Where? Happy to see this as this thread is now so long.Pross said:
Well, Imposter has already said he used to race motorbikes (track and motorcross).MattFalle said:Out of interest, what do Imp and Ugo do for kicks - you know adrenaline kicks, the kind that get you all giggly and nervous and smiling insanely?
#shits'n'giggles
And now?
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Its discussed every year Richard, by everyone involved across every road race.rick_chasey said:In normal sports, a death or a serious injury facilitates change or at least a discussion on how to change things.
It's remarkable this sport does not seem to want to do that.
You honestly think they don't?
Seriously?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background.Pross said:
Page 5, third post down but you started banging on about club 10s and 3rd cat road racing in response.MattFalle said:
Did he? Where? Happy to see this as this thread is now so long.Pross said:
Well, Imposter has already said he used to race motorbikes (track and motorcross).MattFalle said:Out of interest, what do Imp and Ugo do for kicks - you know adrenaline kicks, the kind that get you all giggly and nervous and smiling insanely?
#shits'n'giggles
And now?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Review the Committee findings after each TT week for past 200 years and you'll see.
It'll make a change from the normal reading you say you do on the Putin thread..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I've posted nothing 'against' the TT - other than suggesting that it may have evolved into something which is no longer viable in its current form. I simply said that competitors are rarely in the best position to judge whether something is in their best interests. If you'd ever been on a start line, you'd probably get that. But you'd rather talk about 'adrenaline fixes' and the 'romance' of the event instead. I've never met any other competitor who rode MX for the 'adrenaline rush' - me included.MattFalle said:
Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background.
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Genuinely, what has changed? As judging by that death chart, whatever they have been doing doesn't seem to be having a material impact on the death rate?MattFalle said:Review the Committee findings after each TT week for past 200 years and you'll see.
It'll make a change from the normal reading you say you do on the Putin thread.0 -
Generally when you start something you've looked into it and pondered over it and wondered what's in your best interests, so yeah, I've done that for both officialand unofficial stuff.imposter2.0 said:
I've posted nothing 'against' the TT - other than suggesting that it may have evolved into something which is no longer viable in its current form. I simply said that competitors are rarely in the best position to judge whether something is in their best interests. If you'd ever been on a start line, you'd probably get that.MattFalle said:
Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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But you've never actually done it in competitive motorcycling terms, have you. You've been banging on about "ooh, it's a biker thing, you wouldn't understand" - when all along, you are the one who doesn't fking get it.MattFalle said:
Generally when you start something you've looked into it and pondered over it and wondered what's in your best interests, so yeah, I've done that for both officialand unofficial stuff.imposter2.0 said:
I've posted nothing 'against' the TT - other than suggesting that it may have evolved into something which is no longer viable in its current form. I simply said that competitors are rarely in the best position to judge whether something is in their best interests. If you'd ever been on a start line, you'd probably get that.MattFalle said:
Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background.0 -
Your wife said I accidentally put an 'L' before ''imp'.imposter2.0 said:
You even went to the trouble of saving a copy to edit and re-post. Is everything ok..?pinno said:
seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Are you a parody account? So far, we've had desperately tired internet tropes, the formulaic "political correctness gone mad" whingeing and now the classic "your wife" jokes. Can't wait to see what's next. I can guess, but I'm not going to steal your thunder....pinno said:
Your wife said I accidentally put an 'L' before ''imp'.imposter2.0 said:
You even went to the trouble of saving a copy to edit and re-post. Is everything ok..?pinno said:0 -
and lightning?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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See above post Bazza.imposter2.0 said:
But you've never actually done it in competitive motorcycling terms, have you. You've been banging on about "ooh, it's a biker thing, you wouldn't understand" - when all along, you are the one who doesn't fking get it.MattFalle said:
Generally when you start something you've looked into it and pondered over it and wondered what's in your best interests, so yeah, I've done that for both officialand unofficial stuff.imposter2.0 said:
I've posted nothing 'against' the TT - other than suggesting that it may have evolved into something which is no longer viable in its current form. I simply said that competitors are rarely in the best position to judge whether something is in their best interests. If you'd ever been on a start line, you'd probably get that.MattFalle said:
Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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There are 29 posts above this one, 'Bazza' - can you be more specific..?MattFalle said:
See above post Bazza.imposter2.0 said:
But you've never actually done it in competitive motorcycling terms, have you. You've been banging on about "ooh, it's a biker thing, you wouldn't understand" - when all along, you are the one who doesn't fking get it.MattFalle said:
Generally when you start something you've looked into it and pondered over it and wondered what's in your best interests, so yeah, I've done that for both officialand unofficial stuff.imposter2.0 said:
I've posted nothing 'against' the TT - other than suggesting that it may have evolved into something which is no longer viable in its current form. I simply said that competitors are rarely in the best position to judge whether something is in their best interests. If you'd ever been on a start line, you'd probably get that.MattFalle said:
Yeah I mugged that off because all the stuff he was posting against the TT was very, very very, very very, very strange coming from someone with a motorbike background.0 -
No - you're Bazza - there can't be more than one, Bazza..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Bullit tonight at 9PM on ITV4... just saying
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If you say so. But talking in juvenile riddles is not going to cover over the huge gaps in your credibility. Not this time, anyway...MattFalle said:No - you're Bazza - there can't be more than one, Bazza.
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Next thing we know you're going to ask me where I've riddenimposter2.0 said:
If you say so. But talking in juvenile riddles is not going to cover over the huge gaps in your credibility. Not this time, anyway...MattFalle said:No - you're Bazza - there can't be more than one, Bazza.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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