Planet X Spitfire Ti

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  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    edited June 2022
    Definitely not a front brake, just over-long nutty thing as stated by some MF. ;)
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    edited June 2022
    The lbs gave me a little bag with varying lengths of fixtures Front and back have proper fittings now.

    I edited this as ” getting a varied length” sounded rude

  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ooooh - taking shape!

    #megaendo
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    edited July 2022
    Happy Friday lol
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    Take ferrule off
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    https://www.parktool.com/en-int/blog/repair-help/cutting-and-sizing-cable-housing

    I am going to run crossed cables. I think it looks very neat

    I will be back later to tell you all the reasons why you shouldn't 🙂
  • rwoofer
    rwoofer Posts: 222
    Sounds interesting, but that XL has a seriously aggressive stack at 577mm. My 60cm SS Evo HM is about as aggressive as I can manage at 603mm. My Cervelo R3 is 630mm on a 61cm frame which is just about perfect.

    How come some many Brit brands have such aggressive stack in the largest sizes? US and German brands get it right whereas Brit and Italians don't.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    rwoofer said:

    Sounds interesting, but that XL has a seriously aggressive stack at 577mm. My 60cm SS Evo HM is about as aggressive as I can manage at 603mm. My Cervelo R3 is 630mm on a 61cm frame which is just about perfect.

    How come some many Brit brands have such aggressive stack in the largest sizes? US and German brands get it right whereas Brit and Italians don't.

    You're not wrong. Taller people tend to have relatively longer legs and shorter bodies as a proportion of their height. Cannondale get this right, the reach increases tail off in the bigger sizes but they keep the stack going up without being ridiculously upright.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 680
    Rich_T_ said:


    They are lovely looking bikes!

    (You need to get over to the photography thread for advice about shooting into the sun)
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    Munsford0 said:

    Rich_T_ said:


    They are lovely looking bikes!

    (You need to get over to the photography thread for advice about shooting into the sun)
    Yes you are quite right, for the finished article I'll do it properly next to a tree or a gate post or something
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    just against a plain wall is fine thankyou.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Rich_T_
    Rich_T_ Posts: 24
    edited July 2022
    There are 5000 pages I believe mentioning chain length so apologies in advance 🙂. My build is very nearly complete. Drive train installed, amazing how crisp things work when they are clean.

    . I did not expect the chain to fit first time. I checked Shimano docs. And parktoools. Installed it anyway. Works well, but possibly just too short..




    It's how parktool say to assess the length



  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    Rich_T_ said:



    ouch, I'll upload a photo of my cross chained later
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    yup - too short. that'll hurt.....

    just lob in a quick link tbh and all will be cool.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rear mech cable can be trimmed down as well.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 680
    Think you'll get away with that
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in crap weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    MattFalle said:

    bobones said:

    The Planet X Ti frames are made by Walty AFAIK so they're probably quite decent.

    My thinking is I can replace an old carbon frame that I now never use with something that I might ride from time to time without spending a whole lot of money. I have Red eTap and nice Zipp kit to swap over and I've got loads of wheels that I can use. If it turns out I don't like it, then I think am more likely to get a fair price for a newish Ti bike with eTap than an ancient Scott CR1 if selling the complete bike.

    but but but THE LOGO ON THE FRAME

    They used to be made by Van Nich when they first came out - same material, same factory, same welder, 1/2 the price

    All that glitters....

    B: that is a mega plan Do it do it do it do it do it now.

    I have a Van Nicholas Euros - it's very nice. Too nice for a chubby slow coach like me. :'(
    I paid about half MRRP for it.

    Head Hands Heart Lungs Legs
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
    surely not looking after stuff in/during inclement riding conditions ruins stuff, not the actual fact of sporting mud-guards?

    none of the MFs have ever used, or ever will use mudguards and none of their stuff is knackered due to weather.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
    surely not looking after stuff in/during inclement riding conditions ruins stuff, not the actual fact of sporting mud-guards?

    none of the MFs have ever used, or ever will use mudguards and none of their stuff is knackered due to weather.

    Not looking after stuff is a problem. Stuff needing more looking after also a problem.

    I sense you like having a warm, wet bottom. To each their own.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 680
    The mudguards on my winter bike actively conspire to destroy the frame. They form a trap between the Bb shell and twixt the chainstays which accumulates gritty, salty detritus, and the miniscule movement between guards and stays turns it into grinding paste which erodes the paintwork and turns the alu into a white powdery mess which requires periodic removal / repainting.

    But overall they are pretty effective at keeping said abrasive salty muck out of my brake calipers, shoes and @rse-crack, so I'm sticking with them.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
    surely not looking after stuff in/during inclement riding conditions ruins stuff, not the actual fact of sporting mud-guards?

    none of the MFs have ever used, or ever will use mudguards and none of their stuff is knackered due to weather.

    Not looking after stuff is a problem. Stuff needing more looking after also a problem.

    I sense you like having a warm, wet bottom. To each their own.
    why does it need so much more looking after?

    ride bike.
    get home
    hose down for 1 minute
    sorted

    or make your bike uggggerly

    tbh, proper 7Ps at the begining will ensure all is good.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
    surely not looking after stuff in/during inclement riding conditions ruins stuff, not the actual fact of sporting mud-guards?

    none of the MFs have ever used, or ever will use mudguards and none of their stuff is knackered due to weather.

    Not looking after stuff is a problem. Stuff needing more looking after also a problem.

    I sense you like having a warm, wet bottom. To each their own.
    why does it need so much more looking after?

    ride bike.
    get home
    hose down for 1 minute
    sorted

    or make your bike uggggerly

    tbh, proper 7Ps at the begining will ensure all is good.
    Ugly and heavy, no doubt. But then so am I.

  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915
    Munsford0 said:

    @rse-crack,

    I wonder if it's possible to register rsecrack as a domain name? That could give rise to much amusement for email accounts. :D
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First.Aspect said:

    Put a quick link in.

    That's somewhat likely to throw your chain if you accidentally use that gear under power, which means your man package will impact the top tube and people will point and laugh. Don't tell me you haven't bee warned.

    errr, no. it'll work fine.

    don't say you haven't been informed.

    and how can you accidentally use a gear under power? surely all gears have to be under power to make the bike move forward (obviously not counting momentum)
    Er, painful experience, when I first started out.

    And it's not unheard of for people to forget which gear they are in and end up cross chained, or who would care about the length of the chain in that configuration?. These people are dispraxic and shouldn't be allowed outside without specialist supervision, I know, but it does happen.

    I've had a few bikes with a tendency to spinteneously drop to the small ring when I cross chain.

    Probably its set up badly somewhere else as well, but that happens with bike ridden daily in censored weather by busy people. This bike has mudguards so its bound to happen. No bike with mudguards ever shifts well that's a fact.
    so, mudguards ruin bicycles, yah?

    there. something MF has been trying to say for years but everyone shouted at him and called him rude names.
    No, bad weather ruins bikes and bikes with mudguards are used in bad weather.

    Correlation is not causation.
    surely not looking after stuff in/during inclement riding conditions ruins stuff, not the actual fact of sporting mud-guards?

    none of the MFs have ever used, or ever will use mudguards and none of their stuff is knackered due to weather.

    Not looking after stuff is a problem. Stuff needing more looking after also a problem.

    I sense you like having a warm, wet bottom. To each their own.
    why does it need so much more looking after?

    ride bike.
    get home
    hose down for 1 minute
    sorted

    or make your bike uggggerly

    tbh, proper 7Ps at the begining will ensure all is good.
    Ugly and heavy, no doubt. But then so am I.

    no, don't say that.

    thar's hurtful and bad. thats the sort of insult people would throw at a poor MF for pointing out that Pidcock is actually, well, abitshit

    alternatively statuesque with unique features is what you should be saying

    #silverlining
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.

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