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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited October 2021
    Amoy - 6 abreast at 150mph through a village

    https://youtu.be/dse3ONWaFj4

    Skerries - same, same

    https://youtu.be/plttIWNgaWk

    F1? total joke.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,834

    pblakeney said:

    You said the pavement wasn't wide enough to accommodate the road being widened.
    It clearly is. The council is too cheap to do the job properly. As I said earlier.

    That's not my actual road *eyeroll*

    If you want people to use both sides of the pavement, including people in prams and wheelchairs, then there isn't.

    You're just being difficult for difficult sake now, as you're dug in.
    Time to move house? (Too late to say you should have thought about it before you bought the place I guess...).

    Have a watch of that 'Escape the country' programme which you'll love ;) and let's move back on to talking interesting stuff about cars.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    It's fine. I don't care about my car. It gets me where I need to go.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,834

    It's fine. I don't care about my car. It gets me where I need to go.

    I was kind of hoping that this thread was for people who are interested in cars and think they're fun...

    I can see where you're coming from as I recall my kid has the same car as you. I occasionally drive it: do you also get that tense feeling of an impending challenge when a fully laden milk float draws up next you you at the lights? :p
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    MattFalle said:

    Amoy - 6 abreast at 150mph through a village

    https://youtu.be/dse3ONWaFj4

    Skerries - same, same

    https://youtu.be/plttIWNgaWk

    F1? total joke.

    I'd be scared playing that virtually on a computer sim.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    It's fine. I don't care about my car. It gets me where I need to go.

    I was kind of hoping that this thread was for people who are interested in cars and think they're fun...

    I can see where you're coming from as I recall my kid has the same car as you. I occasionally drive it: do you also get that tense feeling of an impending challenge when a fully laden milk float draws up next you you at the lights? :p
    Driving is fun, traffic isn't, and nowadays traffic is driving.

    And yes, my car is a bit like a 4 wheeled road bike that goes a bit faster.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,872

    MattFalle said:

    Amoy - 6 abreast at 150mph through a village

    https://youtu.be/dse3ONWaFj4

    Skerries - same, same

    https://youtu.be/plttIWNgaWk

    F1? total joke.

    I'd be scared playing that virtually on a computer sim.
    A friend of mine raced at the Isle of Man, it was a 3 lap race. Traditioanally the first lap is slowest due to cold tyres, a standing start and a full tank. second lap quicker and depending on how your tyres are doing third lap quickest as you're carrying no weight. His first lap was his quickest, he got slower as he scared the bejesus out of himself. Never went back to race it himself.
    That 300bhp Kwak is insane, I briefly had a Fireplace that put out 185bhp and that was more than enough.
    I was a car nut, worked around cars and classic cars all my life but can't be bothered with them now. At least not in SE England, if money were no object I'd have a nice car but keep it somewhere else. As said above, a YBR125 is plenty, I might put my Bonnie back together one day. But even a 50 year old motorbike is too much for a 20mph speed limit so I'll keep pedalling.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,775
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).

    As with road pricing, are there any politicians out there who would be brave enough to include stuff like this in their manifesto?

    No, of course not. Short-sighted motorists and motoring organisations will always 'win' those battles. It's what (sort of) amuses me about the anti-cycling motorons who rail against cyclists at every opportunity, without pausing to think that if all those who could commute by bike did so, the journey for those who must drive would be far easier, and that if those who do currently commute by bike didn't do so, virtually every town & city would utterly grind to a halt every day.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    I'd actually welcome this if it could be made to work safely.
    No worries about speed limits just floor it.

    You can see the potential problems though - people trying to overtake and hitting the limiter getting stuck side by side like HGVs on the motorway.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,952
    Now, that I would like to see :D

    I briefly had a Fireplace that put out 185bhp and that was more than enough.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Amoy - 6 abreast at 150mph through a village

    https://youtu.be/dse3ONWaFj4

    Skerries - same, same

    https://youtu.be/plttIWNgaWk

    F1? total joke.

    I'd be scared playing that virtually on a computer sim.
    A friend of mine raced at the Isle of Man, it was a 3 lap race. Traditioanally the first lap is slowest due to cold tyres, a standing start and a full tank. second lap quicker and depending on how your tyres are doing third lap quickest as you're carrying no weight. His first lap was his quickest, he got slower as he scared the bejesus out of himself. Never went back to race it himself.
    That 300bhp Kwak is insane, I briefly had a Fireplace that put out 185bhp and that was more than enough.
    I was a car nut, worked around cars and classic cars all my life but can't be bothered with them now. At least not in SE England, if money were no object I'd have a nice car but keep it somewhere else. As said above, a YBR125 is plenty, I might put my Bonnie back together one day. But even a 50 year old motorbike is too much for a 20mph speed limit so I'll keep pedalling.
    I stopped riding big bikes when I found out that doing 156mph down the local road in the rain on a weekday afternoon with a lump hammer down the front of my jacket was just like, normal ano nothing to write home about.

    So I built the RGV, because thats really sensible.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    That's what I meant by black box. They'll probably include radar distances which is already available. All justified by H&S.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,872
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Amoy - 6 abreast at 150mph through a village

    https://youtu.be/dse3ONWaFj4

    Skerries - same, same

    https://youtu.be/plttIWNgaWk

    F1? total joke.

    I'd be scared playing that virtually on a computer sim.
    A friend of mine raced at the Isle of Man, it was a 3 lap race. Traditioanally the first lap is slowest due to cold tyres, a standing start and a full tank. second lap quicker and depending on how your tyres are doing third lap quickest as you're carrying no weight. His first lap was his quickest, he got slower as he scared the bejesus out of himself. Never went back to race it himself.
    That 300bhp Kwak is insane, I briefly had a Fireplace that put out 185bhp and that was more than enough.
    I was a car nut, worked around cars and classic cars all my life but can't be bothered with them now. At least not in SE England, if money were no object I'd have a nice car but keep it somewhere else. As said above, a YBR125 is plenty, I might put my Bonnie back together one day. But even a 50 year old motorbike is too much for a 20mph speed limit so I'll keep pedalling.
    I stopped riding big bikes when I found out that doing 156mph down the local road in the rain on a weekday afternoon with a lump hammer down the front of my jacket was just like, normal ano nothing to write home about.

    So I built the RGV, because thats really sensible.
    One of my neighbours, now in his 80s, stopped riding bikes in the '60s when he realised of the dozen mates that used to go to the Ace Cafe and race up and down the North Circular there were only half of them left. Did get back on a bike in his 70s and bought a Hardly Ableson. When a mate pulled up on a completely insane supermoto he and his wife wondered over, mate thought the old fogeys were going to have a pop at him. His wife said "ooh, that sound good" and the old boy said "I bet that's a lot of fun"
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,721
    Despite all the FortNine videos I can't help but hanker after a Harley...

    Too much time listening to Slayer I think...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,980

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.

    I've got a solution for this. Try pushing a wheelchair along a pavement for understanding. Yes, drivers can park and walk.
    The parking on my road *is* on the pavement, as in, if you parked next to the pavement your car would be towed. The little white box lines are half on and half off the pavement.

    Honestly, always assume the worst, never the best, you lot.

    I push a pram around all the time - it's the same idea.
    This sounds like a council compromise for housing on narrow streets where they should widen the road assuming the pavement allows. #moneyfirst
    Pavement does not allow.
    Ah, so we are back to the pavement being too narrow to allow for parking and why cars get damaged. #easysolution
    What is the easy solution?
    Park and walk.
    May be an unpopular solution but it is an easy one.
    Would love to know where, around here.

    I recon you'd be looking at a mile walk plus.
    Parking should be a consideration when buying a house if you want a car.
    Not my problem.
    There is parking. As discussed. In front of the house.

    Just like this:


    What are you struggling to understand?
    Rick_chasey - I know where you live! Just round the corner from me ;)


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ddraver said:

    Despite all the FortNine videos I can't help but hanker after a Harley...

    Too much time listening to Slayer I think...

    oh good God no. utter total pieceofshit. the Land Rover of the bike world.

    perfect if you want everyone to laugh at you. the clubrider of the motorbike set up.

    no

    no

    no
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.

    I've got a solution for this. Try pushing a wheelchair along a pavement for understanding. Yes, drivers can park and walk.
    The parking on my road *is* on the pavement, as in, if you parked next to the pavement your car would be towed. The little white box lines are half on and half off the pavement.

    Honestly, always assume the worst, never the best, you lot.

    I push a pram around all the time - it's the same idea.
    This sounds like a council compromise for housing on narrow streets where they should widen the road assuming the pavement allows. #moneyfirst
    Pavement does not allow.
    Ah, so we are back to the pavement being too narrow to allow for parking and why cars get damaged. #easysolution
    What is the easy solution?
    Park and walk.
    May be an unpopular solution but it is an easy one.
    Would love to know where, around here.

    I recon you'd be looking at a mile walk plus.
    Parking should be a consideration when buying a house if you want a car.
    Not my problem.
    There is parking. As discussed. In front of the house.

    Just like this:


    What are you struggling to understand?
    Rick_chasey - I know where you live! Just round the corner from me ;)
    that's hideous.

    do you live in Kabul?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,980
    MattFalle said:



    do you live in Kabul?

    Judging by the state of our local roads I'd say Kabul would be the better option!


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:



    do you live in Kabul?

    Judging by the state of our local roads I'd say Kabul would be the better option!
    😂
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,775
    Just wish that the Almera didn't have electric windows (one more thing to go wrong, and the passenger window has)... apart from that, it's mostly wind-up technology. Hasn't even got trafficators...
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    oxoman said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    That's what I meant by black box. They'll probably include radar distances which is already available. All justified by H&S.
    (1.) Sadly some of this censored is already fitted...

    (2.) As to parking arguments my town would lose over 50% of the houses due to no off street parking and Insufficient space for car parks...
    1. This is why it is easy to see it being enforced. The tech exists.

    2. Looking at it backwards. Some places you can't buy a car unless you have a parking space. Seems sensible.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    pblakeney said:

    oxoman said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    That's what I meant by black box. They'll probably include radar distances which is already available. All justified by H&S.
    (1.) Sadly some of this censored is already fitted...

    (2.) As to parking arguments my town would lose over 50% of the houses due to no off street parking and Insufficient space for car parks...
    1. This is why it is easy to see it being enforced. The tech exists.

    2. Looking at it backwards. Some places you can't buy a car unless you have a parking space. Seems sensible.
    Sounds ludicrous for most places. Look at places such as the Welsh Valleys where the majority of the housing is small Victorian terraces and all the parking is on street. These areas were built before cars were invented and the roads can't accomodate a car per house without kerb parking (which I hate by the way for the reasons you've mentioned). In this situation people could only live there if they could get everywhere by public transport and public transport to those areas is pretty poor even now where lots of people will travel by car. So no-one ends up living there and you lose all that housing at a time where there is a housing shortage.

    Over recent years planning policy has been used to try to reduce car usage by restricting the amount of parking available on new developments and you just end up with a complete mess. There are car free developments that do work but these are generally in London or a few other places where public transport links are good and all facilities easily accessible but as always with trying to reduce car use the first step always has to be to make the alternatives more convenient.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,834
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    I predict a surge in car sales just before this becomes mandatory. Hopefully that one will last me until I'm too old to care.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,834

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.

    I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.
    I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
    By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).
    I'd actually welcome this if it could be made to work safely.
    No worries about speed limits just floor it.

    You can see the potential problems though - people trying to overtake and hitting the limiter getting stuck side by side like HGVs on the motorway.
    On a motorway or dual carriageway it would be a problem. On a two way road it could be a lot worse...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,721
    Every time this comes up I say we're going to have to get way better at calibrating dashboard speedos and limiters...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    ddraver said:

    Every time this comes up I say we're going to have to get way better at calibrating dashboard speedos and limiters...

    My car's speedo matches the sat-nav so it is entirely possible to achieve.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,775
    ddraver said:

    Every time this comes up I say we're going to have to get way better at calibrating dashboard speedos and limiters...

    Using Google Maps is educational re speeds.