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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    edited October 2021
    MattFalle said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    If you're going the 911 route, would have to be a GT3 for me. Price and hens teeth availability aside.

    this, totally.

    i'd really, really love one but could I use it proper enough to make me giggle insanely without getting busted by the Po Po every four days? Not a chance.

    Quite fancy an Abarth 595 when bambina gets the Aygo in a couple of years tbh.
    Reality is it's a very expensive track car and that's the only place you can use its abilities properly/without losing your license. I've been through my track day phase which is just as well given the slightly eye watering cost of the hobby.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    orraloon said:

    Who tf takes their Porsche to a supermarket? Actually, hold that. Saw one this pm. Bloke laboriously parking up, back and forth, back and forth, wassamatter wit you? As I'm putting my bags inside through a door, several to choose from, bloke is getting some squeezed plastic bags from under the bonnet boot in the front. Bit like the Beetle I had many many many moons ago. Assume only 1 bag as no space for any more. How does one panic buy pasta and bog rolls in a Porch?

    First of all, mine is a daily.
    I'm really not into the idea of having a sports car that comes out of the cupboard for a few good days in summer.
    I also have a van (well, it died but I will get another one) to do all the donkey work, fetch wood and drive it to school when the weather is really bad. And, we used it to go on holiday with - chuck all the bikes and gear in the back. I get treated differently when I am in my van. Quite hilarious when you think about it.

    When you are next at the supermarket, have a pop at a Range Rover Vogue owner who spent £80k on the thing and it's about as practical as a fart in a space suit, never see's mud and takes up a huge amount of space... or the BMW M5 or the Audi A6 or the AMG C63 owner.
    What I see here is perception. I didn't pay that much for it, I don't own it and drive it as a status symbol. I am just a petrol head.
    In the UK I think many people buy expensive cars just because they can not because of what it is or what it does.

    Put it this way, my friend bought a brand new Peugeot 508 SW estate. Costing £7k more than my Porker. Just to put his golf clubs in yet, nobody says 'Why do you drive a Peugeot for the 6 mile round trip to the golf course and back or the odd jolly?'. Or, 'You drive a Peugeot 508, you must have loads of money'. He pays iro £700 per annum in insurance, I pay £340 per annum including the full relay breakdown cover.
    We laugh about the attitude people have towards us. He owns a hotel. He has an expendable income waaay above mine and could probably drive a Ferrari.

    Yes, I can fit 5 bags of shopping in the front and more in the back if I pop the seats down.

    We've never knowingly bought any toilet roll in a panic.

    I cannot speak for the bloke who was going back and forth, back and forth - I would assume that it's because of the way he is and no matter what car he had, he would do the same.

    The other is depreciation. When I sell it in x years time, I will at worst, break even.
    Bloke I know picked up a Range Rover V8. It's 9 years old and it's very very clean. He paid £8500 at auction for it. That car cost £87 grand when it was new.


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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited October 2021
    pinno said:

    orraloon said:

    Who tf takes their Porsche to a supermarket? Actually, hold that. Saw one this pm. Bloke laboriously parking up, back and forth, back and forth, wassamatter wit you? As I'm putting my bags inside through a door, several to choose from, bloke is getting some squeezed plastic bags from under the bonnet boot in the front. Bit like the Beetle I had many many many moons ago. Assume only 1 bag as no space for any more. How does one panic buy pasta and bog rolls in a Porch?

    First of all, mine is a daily.
    I'm really not into the idea of having a sports car that comes out of the cupboard for a few good days in summer.
    I also have a van (well, it died but I will get another one) to do all the donkey work, fetch wood and drive it to school when the weather is really bad. And, we used it to go on holiday with - chuck all the bikes and gear in the back. I get treated differently when I am in my van. Quite hilarious when you think about it.

    When you are next at the supermarket, have a pop at a Range Rover Vogue owner who spent £80k on the thing and it's about as practical as a fart in a space suit, never see's mud and takes up a huge amount of space... or the BMW M5 or the Audi A6 or the AMG C63 owner.
    What I see here is perception. I didn't pay that much for it, I don't own it and drive it as a status symbol. I am just a petrol head.
    In the UK I think many people buy expensive cars just because they can not because of what it is or what it does.

    Put it this way, my friend bought a brand new Peugeot 508 SW estate. Costing £7k more than my Porker. Just to put his golf clubs in yet, nobody says 'Why do you drive a Peugeot for the 6 mile round trip to the golf course and back or the odd jolly?'. Or, 'You drive a Peugeot 508, you must have loads of money'. He pays iro £700 per annum in insurance, I pay £340 per annum including the full relay breakdown cover.
    We laugh about the attitude people have towards us. He owns a hotel. He has an expendable income waaay above mine and could probably drive a Ferrari.

    Yes, I can fit 5 bags of shopping in the front and more in the back if I pop the seats down.

    We've never knowingly bought any toilet roll in a panic.

    I cannot speak for the bloke who was going back and forth, back and forth - I would assume that it's because of the way he is and no matter what car he had, he would do the same.

    The other is depreciation. When I sell it in x years time, I will at worst, break even.
    Bloke I know picked up a Range Rover V8. It's 9 years old and it's very very clean. He paid £8500 at auction for it. That car cost £87 grand when it was new.


    this.

    if i had one i'd use it all the time - supermarket, school run, strap shite to it to carry stuff around - its a car not bloody Gina Lollobrigida.

    Exactly as dude above says - its the people who spend shedloads on a 'Rover 90 that never tows or goes offroad - pointless utter waste of time and money. A shite vehicle not even attempting to do what is was made for (apart from leak, be cold, be unreluable, not have doors that clise properly, be cramped to sit in, etc etc etc)
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Used to drive past a Porsche with a bike rack on the roof when I lived in North Wales.

    Not sure it could get up the tracks to the Marin/Penmachno car parks, but...
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  • My Porsche would be a daily. May have to go on the back burner as the house I want is now more £££ and the next few bonuses will go on refurb work
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    😊 wasn't being entirely serious about the laboriously parked Porch above. Did I miss out the emoji signal? 🛺
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    MattFalle said:


    if i had one i'd use it all the time - supermarket, school run, strap shite to it to carry stuff around - its a car not bloody Gina Lollobrigida.

    This ^ and I do.
    I get people moaning at me when it's filthy. And I have a Thule bike rack and a Thule top box.
    They (Porkers) will, if looked after, easily exceed 300,000 miles.

    Local jeweller (and general tw@t).
    He bought a 998 2 and a half years ago. He's done 4000 miles in it. It sits there looking shiny. Cost £108,000. I know this because i have someone in the trade who checked the history. What a f*****g waste.



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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    orraloon said:

    😊 wasn't being entirely serious about the laboriously parked Porch above. Did I miss out the emoji signal? 🛺

    Too late for a reversing manoeuvre now.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    I'm thinking that the roof rack actually adds to this car...


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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.

    That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.

    those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.
    So, it turns out my car is rated 76% for vulnerable roadusers and pedestrians under NCAP 5, the same as a golf incidentally.

    The Aygo,? Only 64%.
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  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,798
    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.

    That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.

    those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.
    So, it turns out my car is rated 76% for vulnerable roadusers and pedestrians under NCAP 5, the same as a golf incidentally.

    The Aygo,? Only 64%.


    :D:D:D

    Still trying to justify the SUV


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Thibg is, nobody ever said anything about the Aygo's safety rating.

    And he's actually got the wrong car, but hey ho, why let the facts get in the way of a good SUV justification, especially when the Aygo is more efficient, better for the environment, better for the city, cheaper, cooler, cheaper to run, service and insure, more fun......

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    ...but it doesn't kill kids.
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited October 2021

    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.

    That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.

    those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.
    So, it turns out my car is rated 76% for vulnerable roadusers and pedestrians under NCAP 5, the same as a golf incidentally.

    The Aygo,? Only 64%.


    :D:D:D

    Still trying to justify the SUV
    No just correcting misconceptions and ignorance.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.

    That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.

    those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.
    So, it turns out my car is rated 76% for vulnerable roadusers and pedestrians under NCAP 5, the same as a golf incidentally.

    The Aygo,? Only 64%.


    :D:D:D

    Still trying to justify the SUV
    No just correcting misconceptions and ignorance.
    By comparing apples to potatoes?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    All cars have to pass the same NCAP tests which included pedestrian safety. Mine is NCAP 5 and far exceeds the required score for pedestrian safety. I know what you're getting at with regards to height of bumpers etc, but not all SUVs are the same.

    That, of course only comes into play if you have an accident, but I'd wager you're far more likely to be in an accident if you speed and generally drive like a cnut.

    those are deffo contributing factors but you'll generally be involved in an accident if you're not very good at driving, haven't taken advanced training and drive around in an SUV cocooned to the world thinking that because you have NCAP 5 you aren't going to cause major fricking trauma to a kiddie as you take their head and chest off.
    So, it turns out my car is rated 76% for vulnerable roadusers and pedestrians under NCAP 5, the same as a golf incidentally.

    The Aygo,? Only 64%.


    :D:D:D

    Still trying to justify the SUV
    No just correcting misconceptions and ignorance.
    blinding oneself with marketing to dull the truth?

    the only misconception you've tried to correct, which wasn't actually a misconception because no one actually raised it is an Aygo vs baby killer SUV.

    The other facts as detailed above are still standing.

    Ipso facto QED.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Well now. I put in a getting long drawn out boring comment and lo, held for mod approval, or alt the website censor bot is asleep. Strange site this has become.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    orraloon said:

    Well now. I put in a getting long drawn out boring comment and lo, held for mod approval, or alt the website censor bot is asleep. Strange site this has become.

    This happened to you before 'Loon, you even said your farewell's and nothing came of it.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    orraloon said:

    Well now. I put in a getting long drawn out boring comment and lo, held for mod approval, or alt the website censor bot is asleep. Strange site this has become.

    You've not put another questionable entry into the caption competition have you?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V95m-38RJJE
    Seeing as this thread is about cars yet none of you c0ck n0ckers have picked up on it. This is Gordon Murray's successor to the McLaren F1.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    But these things are extraordinarily expensive super cars with have zero practicality that few people can afford. No one on here can make any comparison.

    They are racing cars that are road legal, have few home comforts, no luggage space, are extremely noisy and suck fuel quicker than you can pour it in.

    They do absolutely nothing for me.

    As an aside, the Maclaren's are pretty shyte in the GT class.

    https://www.gt-world-challenge-europe.com/results

    ...and let's play 'Spot the Maclaren':

    https://www.fiawec.com/en/race/result/4689
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Whats the NCAP rating on it?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V95m-38RJJE
    Seeing as this thread is about cars yet none of you c0ck n0ckers have picked up on it. This is Gordon Murray's successor to the McLaren F1.


    It doesn't look like much fun standing about in the rain doing the odd lap in a car I doubt the owners know how to check the oil on.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    On Ricks Polo or the Maclaren..? ;)
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    I'd rather have a Panigale for 50th of the price for 5,000% more fun.

    https://youtu.be/MEZ6lhlamJg
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.

    I've got a solution for this. Try pushing a wheelchair along a pavement for understanding. Yes, drivers can park and walk.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited October 2021
    pblakeney said:

    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.

    I've got a solution for this. Try pushing a wheelchair along a pavement for understanding. Yes, drivers can park and walk.
    The parking on my road *is* on the pavement, as in, if you parked next to the pavement your car would be towed. The little white box lines are half on and half off the pavement.

    Honestly, always assume the worst, never the best, you lot.

    I push a pram around all the time - it's the same idea.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    pblakeney said:

    A real advantage of a cheap car, especially when you park it on the pavement is when people inevitably knock things off it doesn't cost the earth.

    After a while you stop being so prissy about scratches and whatnot, which is very liberating.

    I've got a solution for this. Try pushing a wheelchair along a pavement for understanding. Yes, drivers can park and walk.
    The parking on my road *is* on the pavement, as in, if you parked next to the pavement your car would be towed. The little white box lines are half on and half off the pavement.

    Honestly, always assume the worst, never the best, you lot.

    I push a pram around all the time - it's the same idea.
    This sounds like a council compromise for housing on narrow streets where they should widen the road assuming the pavement allows. #moneyfirst
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    MattFalle said:

    I'd rather have a Panigale for 50th of the price for 5,000% more fun.

    https://youtu.be/MEZ6lhlamJg


    I cannot get over the production supercharged Kawasaki H2R, 310BHP!

    310!

    3 1 0 !

    three hundred and ten!

    THREE HUNDRED AND TEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thant's just proper another planet (with strange creatures n things) bonkers.