Cars, cars, cars...
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Old cars don't even need an MOT now, they figure that the numbers are so low it's not an issue and the owners take pride in looking after their cars. Having spent the last 30 years dealing with classic car owners I can confirm that they are not competent to decide for themselves what is roadworthy.Stevo_666 said:
Nah, retrofitting will be too tricky. I can see my self developing an interest in vintage cars.pinno said:
They'll clap a mandatory black box on your fireworks Stevo.Stevo_666 said:
Who says I can't get past them?Pross said:
Not going to help you much if 90% of vehicles are restricted and you can't get past them though. The average age of a car on UK roads is just over 8 years and they average age cars get scrapped is about 14 years. I'm sure some statistician can work out when critical mass would occur but once it does it doesn't matter if your car is restricted, you won't be going any quicker than everyone else.Stevo_666 said:
I predict a surge in car sales just before this becomes mandatory. Hopefully that one will last me until I'm too old to care.Pross said:
By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).pblakeney said:
I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.focuszing723 said:Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.
I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly.
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I was thinking more 'vintage' as when mine is more than 10 years old. Which kinda coincides with sophisticated milk floats becoming compulsory if you want to buy new.veronese68 said:
Old cars don't even need an MOT now, they figure that the numbers are so low it's not an issue and the owners take pride in looking after their cars. Having spent the last 30 years dealing with classic car owners I can confirm that they are not competent to decide for themselves what is roadworthy.Stevo_666 said:
Nah, retrofitting will be too tricky. I can see my self developing an interest in vintage cars.pinno said:
They'll clap a mandatory black box on your fireworks Stevo.Stevo_666 said:
Who says I can't get past them?Pross said:
Not going to help you much if 90% of vehicles are restricted and you can't get past them though. The average age of a car on UK roads is just over 8 years and they average age cars get scrapped is about 14 years. I'm sure some statistician can work out when critical mass would occur but once it does it doesn't matter if your car is restricted, you won't be going any quicker than everyone else.Stevo_666 said:
I predict a surge in car sales just before this becomes mandatory. Hopefully that one will last me until I'm too old to care.Pross said:
By then the car's computer will be linked to GPS and sign reading software and simply won't let you drive above the posted speed limit (already being tested).pblakeney said:
I think mandatory black boxes will be forced on us by 203*.focuszing723 said:Here's a question. How long before we won't be able to drive a car due to elf n safety and the progression of autonomy? There is no doubt in my mind it would save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives a year if enforced in the future.
I you can have fun on the road get a fun car now. If you need a track car, get one now. Tracks will be busy and priced accordingly."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Flying taxis are set to shuttle passengers from Heathrow to cities in the south of England for the price of an Uber in just four years' time, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.
Under the plans, passengers arriving at the airport could take an electric air 'taxi' to London's Canary Wharf in just 13 minutes for around £50 per passenger. A similar journey in an Uber costs £46.
An air taxi from Heathrow to Cambridge would take 28 minutes and cost £58 per person, compared to £102 for an hour-and-a-half hour taxi or £52 for a two-hour train journey.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-10123729/Flying-taxis-set-shuttle-passengers-Heathrow.html0 -
Sorry. £52 for a two-hour train journey??????
Rip off Britain.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
For a train that rarely runs according to RC's complaints about the Cambridge service.pblakeney said:Sorry. £52 for a two-hour train journey??????
Rip off Britain.
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^ No longer sci-fi.
I doubt they would get deployed as anything useful on the West coast of Scotland though.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Will the outside lane (upper level) drivers be able to get to their turn off (ground level) though? Only kidding, but visualising the issues of 3D congestion.rick_chasey said:This ULEZ stuff in London will be the future of car travel in built up areas in Europe.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Tetrus?pinno said:
...and you thought the Playstation and Xbox was a waste of time.pblakeney said:...but visualising the issues of 3D congestion.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
Will the outside lane (upper level) drivers be able to get to their turn off (ground level) though? Only kidding, but visualising the issues of 3D congestion.rick_chasey said:This ULEZ stuff in London will be the future of car travel in built up areas in Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbGwxYiWug
They could be autonomous though. A Chinese company have already done this.0 -
Remember what happened when drones (apparently) were sighted over Heathrow and Gatwick? Flying taxis Heathrow to Cambridge in 4 years time? Aye right.0
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It'll take the government 4 years just to contemplate the practicalities. A further 2 years to do studies, another..........and so on.orraloon said:Remember what happened when drones (apparently) were sighted over Heathrow and Gatwick? Flying taxis Heathrow to Cambridge in 4 years time? Aye right.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I was a little surprised at that - drones (at least here, anyway) have allegedly fairly sophisticated coding in their inbuilt GPS which automatically blocks them from flying into controlled airspace like an airport. They simply "stop" at the perimeter and will not cross that boundary line. I've a friend who was a keen amateur drone user, did a lot of indoor VR racing and stuff with them and outdoor flying, and he's also a pretty geeky IT expert. He reckoned hacking that GPS block code was pretty damned difficult, if at all possible.orraloon said:Remember what happened when drones (apparently) were sighted over Heathrow and Gatwick? Flying taxis Heathrow to Cambridge in 4 years time? Aye right.
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That goes out the minute you build your own drone surely?
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Who builds their own? From scratch, including the control software?Jezyboy said:That goes out the minute you build your own drone surely?
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58 kWh: 24 modules (288 cells)
72.6 kWh: 30 modules (360 cells)
77.4 kWh: 32 modules (384 cells)
https://insideevs.com/news/539940/hyundai-ioniq5-battery-pack-opened/
I found this interesting about the Ioniq5's battery packs.0 -
In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The UK is on a par with Germany for SUV sales, with other European countries selling 20-25% less (couldn’t work out if that’s because volume of new cars is lower or the appetite for them is lower) But In the UK only 3 of the top 10 new cars are SUV’s. The fiesta, corsa, and focus are still the biggest sellers.MattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?
I see the new Range Rover released this week is already getting rave ‘first look’ reviews. I think it’ll sell like hot cakes, despite its £85k base price tag. Quite how people afford that I just don’t know.0 -
You haven't been out here in a while then? Tonka Toy style utes and SUV's are still the majority of car sales.MattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0 -
I'm a little surprised at that. Totally unscientific observations when on holiday in Europe it seemed the British, Italians and Eastern Europeans like the bling of SUVs. Scandinavians and Germans seemed to favour regular estate cars, although the scandi's often have a 4wd version.wavefront said:
The UK is on a par with Germany for SUV sales, with other European countries selling 20-25% lessMattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?0 -
Probably just earn more?wavefront said:
The UK is on a par with Germany for SUV sales, with other European countries selling 20-25% less (couldn’t work out if that’s because volume of new cars is lower or the appetite for them is lower) But In the UK only 3 of the top 10 new cars are SUV’s. The fiesta, corsa, and focus are still the biggest sellers.MattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?
I see the new Range Rover released this week is already getting rave ‘first look’ reviews. I think it’ll sell like hot cakes, despite its £85k base price tag. Quite how people afford that I just don’t know.
I really like the current Range Rover - but like all of them, it is riddled with expensive defects. The new one appears to be a re-launch of the existing one, rather than a big evolution. Hopefully that will mean a lot of the reliability issued are fixed and / or the price of the current one falls through the floor. Even now you can pick up relatively clean examples of a 2015 car with 70k miles for around £30k0 -
They own them primarily through finance. A 7 year old range will be about a grand for every electrical fault requiring a new board. Mate had one and whilst he liked it and was an electrical engineer so could sort the electrical faults the mechanical aspects were also tough. A lot of the suspension components are getting on for bring commercial in size and as are the tools to do a basic ball joint etc. I will leave looking cool to others on this one.shirley_basso said:
Probably just earn more?wavefront said:
The UK is on a par with Germany for SUV sales, with other European countries selling 20-25% less (couldn’t work out if that’s because volume of new cars is lower or the appetite for them is lower) But In the UK only 3 of the top 10 new cars are SUV’s. The fiesta, corsa, and focus are still the biggest sellers.MattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?
I see the new Range Rover released this week is already getting rave ‘first look’ reviews. I think it’ll sell like hot cakes, despite its £85k base price tag. Quite how people afford that I just don’t know.
I really like the current Range Rover - but like all of them, it is riddled with expensive defects. The new one appears to be a re-launch of the existing one, rather than a big evolution. Hopefully that will mean a lot of the reliability issued are fixed and / or the price of the current one falls through the floor. Even now you can pick up relatively clean examples of a 2015 car with 70k miles for around £30k0 -
That's the worry - they are hideously unreliable and equally expensive to fix, but they do look so awesome. I'll take the plunge one day. Skoda estate for now....0
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This is the thing I really don't get. I just don't think they look cool, to me they look like someone is just bragging. The vehicular equivalent of Donald Trump.john80 said:
I will leave looking cool to others on this one.shirley_basso said:
Probably just earn more?wavefront said:
The UK is on a par with Germany for SUV sales, with other European countries selling 20-25% less (couldn’t work out if that’s because volume of new cars is lower or the appetite for them is lower) But In the UK only 3 of the top 10 new cars are SUV’s. The fiesta, corsa, and focus are still the biggest sellers.MattFalle said:In a week I haven't seen on 4x4, SUV or other such pile ofshite.
perhaps its just a UK thang?
I see the new Range Rover released this week is already getting rave ‘first look’ reviews. I think it’ll sell like hot cakes, despite its £85k base price tag. Quite how people afford that I just don’t know.
I really like the current Range Rover - but like all of them, it is riddled with expensive defects. The new one appears to be a re-launch of the existing one, rather than a big evolution. Hopefully that will mean a lot of the reliability issued are fixed and / or the price of the current one falls through the floor. Even now you can pick up relatively clean examples of a 2015 car with 70k miles for around £30k0 -
I think the navy blue with silver 'gills' and cream interior looks pretty unoffensive.
I agree they are imperious, but also it is a pretty iconic car.0 -
I really don't know why anyone would buy a brand new car. I've done this precisely once, because a LR dealer was offering a stupidly good deal to shift a car that had been ordered then cancelled.
Rest of the time I've gone for a 1-2 year old one that some one else has paid half the cost of. Who the people are who buy new cars and run them for such a short time before handing them back, I don't know, but I'm very grateful.1
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