Euro 2020/21 (more football, sorry Brian)
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of course he said that. the man has image rights and a reputation to forge don't you know.bobmcstuff said:
Southgate did say that's what they did. And Grealish said he wanted to take one.TheBigBean said:
Southgate gave the impression that this is what they did, but I don't believe it because Saka will never be a good penalty taker.surrey_commuter said:
Not having a go at you personally but it annoys me the whole amateur nature of a "bloke putting his name forwards" what is wrong in practising penalties and keeping the data so that you know who the best are and that is a permanent list of the order they will take penalties. If necessary people can opt outfocuszing723 said:Great leader/team and they did bloody well to get to the final, much better than I thought they would. There will be the inevitable hindsight, waffle, tolls and blame.
The blokes who put their name forward to take penalties (for any nation) in that situation have some real guts. Anybody who has a crack at them clearly has learnt nothing in their life.
Idiots will be idiots every country has them..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I was in Montreal when some soccer fans tried to start a riot (including flag burning) after they lost a baseball game to a team from the USAJezyboy said:It's good to know the fans who smashed up Vancouver a few years ago were simply confused football fans who accidently watched an ice hockey game.
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31 million inside Wembley Stadium?bobmcstuff said:
Once again there were 31 million people watching the final yesterday. Only one person shining a laser.joe2019 said:MattFalle said:
They don't seem to have trashed their capital city, tried to break into their stadium, fought the police, sent racial abuse to their players though do they.TheBigBean said:
They're idiots and when that many people watch a match, the number of idiots is higher.MattFalle said:On a far far far more serious topic, why taf are people directing racial abuse at England players?
I just don't understand it.
What's the excuse for Italian fans?
or did we all miss that headline?
Or booed every National Anthem, or shone a laser into a goalies face during a crucial penalty take...
Phuck me. That must have been a nightmare to get a pint at half time.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Marcus Rashford mural in Manchester defaced after penalty shootout defeatjoe2019 said:MattFalle said:
They don't seem to have trashed their capital city, tried to break into their stadium, fought the police, sent racial abuse to their players though do they.TheBigBean said:
They're idiots and when that many people watch a match, the number of idiots is higher.MattFalle said:On a far far far more serious topic, why taf are people directing racial abuse at England players?
I just don't understand it.
What's the excuse for Italian fans?
or did we all miss that headline?
Or booed every National Anthem, or shone a laser into a goalies face during a crucial penalty take...
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/DFfWBn
one minute national hero, the next.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?left the forum March 20230 -
...and it didn't happen yesterday.MattFalle said:
31 million inside Wembley Stadium?bobmcstuff said:
Once again there were 31 million people watching the final yesterday. Only one person shining a laser.joe2019 said:MattFalle said:
They don't seem to have trashed their capital city, tried to break into their stadium, fought the police, sent racial abuse to their players though do they.TheBigBean said:
They're idiots and when that many people watch a match, the number of idiots is higher.MattFalle said:On a far far far more serious topic, why taf are people directing racial abuse at England players?
I just don't understand it.
What's the excuse for Italian fans?
or did we all miss that headline?
Or booed every National Anthem, or shone a laser into a goalies face during a crucial penalty take...
Phuck me. That must have been a nightmare to get a pint at half time.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Some players would go their whole careers without being involved in a penalty shoot-out. Wouldn't say it's an essential skill.ugo.santalucia said:
OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?
On another day the keeper goes the other way and Saka and Sancho's penalties go in. I would credit Donaruma for the saves rather then be too critical of the misses.0 -
Extra pressure put on them by Rashford trying to be clever.skyblueamateur said:
Some players would go their whole careers without being involved in a penalty shoot-out. Wouldn't say it's an essential skill.ugo.santalucia said:
OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?
On another day the keeper goes the other way and Saka and Sancho's penalties go in. I would credit Donaruma for the saves rather then be too critical of the misses.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
As long as the penalty isn't ridiculously tame it is a bit harsh when people call a saved penalty a miss. Rashford's was the only genuinely bad one - I'm not sure if he was being a bit too cocky or if he just got hit by nerves as he started his run up and changed his mind. Both Maguire and Kane took very good penalties though, very little chance of any keeper stopping them even if the went the right way.0
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Less relevant in penalty shoot outs, but in the league someone analyses the run up of every player who may take penalties looking for tells in the first few steps as to which way they will shoot. This information is then relayed to the keepers.skyblueamateur said:
Some players would go their whole careers without being involved in a penalty shoot-out. Wouldn't say it's an essential skill.ugo.santalucia said:
OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?
On another day the keeper goes the other way and Saka and Sancho's penalties go in. I would credit Donaruma for the saves rather then be too critical of the misses.
What I don't understand is why the same level of analysis hasn't gone into the penalty taking. I think the best penalties by far are the ones the keeper can't save even if he goes the right way. Of course, that means that the taker will miss the goal on some, but overall, if they miss the goal on 1/10 and have an exceptional save 1/10, then they are better than average.
Saka fundamentally doesn't kick a ball well for a penalty. On top of this, due to the curl, he should have gone to the other side as a first choice. The penalty he took would probably be saved 4 times out of 10. However, I would back him to gently lift it close to the top corner at a rate much higher than 6/10, so I think that would be a better idea. Play to your strengths and all that. My feeling is that no one helps the takers with this side of things.
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Well according to a tory MP he should have spent more time practicing penalties instead of playing politics.MattFalle said:
Marcus Rashford mural in Manchester defaced after penalty shootout defeatjoe2019 said:MattFalle said:
They don't seem to have trashed their capital city, tried to break into their stadium, fought the police, sent racial abuse to their players though do they.TheBigBean said:
They're idiots and when that many people watch a match, the number of idiots is higher.MattFalle said:On a far far far more serious topic, why taf are people directing racial abuse at England players?
I just don't understand it.
What's the excuse for Italian fans?
or did we all miss that headline?
Or booed every National Anthem, or shone a laser into a goalies face during a crucial penalty take...
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/DFfWBn
one minute national hero, the next....
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I don't agree with this. He missed by a fraction. I reckon 9/10 times he would score from that penalty.Pross said:As long as the penalty isn't ridiculously tame it is a bit harsh when people call a saved penalty a miss. Rashford's was the only genuinely bad one - I'm not sure if he was being a bit too cocky or if he just got hit by nerves as he started his run up and changed his mind. Both Maguire and Kane took very good penalties though, very little chance of any keeper stopping them even if the went the right way.
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Yep, as said further upthread he was the only one who sent the keeper the wrong way and he hit the post.TheBigBean said:
I don't agree with this. He missed by a fraction. I reckon 9/10 times he would score from that penalty.Pross said:As long as the penalty isn't ridiculously tame it is a bit harsh when people call a saved penalty a miss. Rashford's was the only genuinely bad one - I'm not sure if he was being a bit too cocky or if he just got hit by nerves as he started his run up and changed his mind. Both Maguire and Kane took very good penalties though, very little chance of any keeper stopping them even if the went the right way.
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Comment on one of the kickball podcasts that Rashford was the only one to send Donnarumma the wrong way.
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Surely not Sterling... he plays for a club that does Champions league and he plays for England... he will be involved in a fair number of penalty shootouts...skyblueamateur said:
Some players would go their whole careers without being involved in a penalty shoot-out. Wouldn't say it's an essential skill.ugo.santalucia said:
OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?
on top of that, penalties are awarded in a game and as a forward you have to be able to score them, otherwise I don't understand the crazy evaluation...
Every 2-3 games there will be a penalty awarded, it would be mad for a forward not to take them
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Idiots have the platform that is social media.focuszing723 said:I hope were perform as well in the World Cup.
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Having seen Bonnucci twice in this tournament and Maguires last night I think I'd want my centre backs taking penalties from here on in.ugo.santalucia said:
Surely not Sterling... he plays for a club that does Champions league and he plays for England... he will be involved in a fair number of penalty shootouts...skyblueamateur said:
Some players would go their whole careers without being involved in a penalty shoot-out. Wouldn't say it's an essential skill.ugo.santalucia said:
OK, so why exactly are the people on such high pay?skyblueamateur said:
Sterling's missed his last 3 penalties for Man City. Grealish hasn't taken a penalty for Villa for over 2 years after missing his last.ugo.santalucia said:They deserve no criticism...
However, how come superstars like Sterling didn't take a penalty? I mean, they should have taken responsibility ahead of a 19 year old lad...
Surely, being able to score a penalty is an essential skill in their role, rather than a desirable one?
on top of that, penalties are awarded in a game and as a forward you have to be able to score them, otherwise I don't understand the crazy evaluation...
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There are 2 ways to take a penalty.
Pick a spot and try to hit it, regardless of what the keeper does
Try and make the keeper go one way and then stick it in the other.
Neither is better than the other, they just have different advantages and drawbacks.
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3rd option is stright down the middle as hard as you canrick_chasey said:There are 2 ways to take a penalty.
Pick a spot and try to hit it, regardless of what the keeper does
Try and make the keeper go one way and then stick it in the other.
Neither is better than the other, they just have different advantages and drawbacks.0 -
First is much better. I'd guess the stats would back this up too.rick_chasey said:There are 2 ways to take a penalty.
Pick a spot and try to hit it, regardless of what the keeper does
Try and make the keeper go one way and then stick it in the other.
Neither is better than the other, they just have different advantages and drawbacks.
Le Tissier used to pick a spot and if he saw the keeper move too much, kick it the other side.0 -
do we think it a coincidence that no City player took penalty?0
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Lets forget about the penalties. This is the best and most successful England team we've had for over 50 years. I'm proud of the team and and the manager. I'm absolutely ashamed of the tossers who are abusing the players. The better team won on the day. We lost the final, but did amazingly well to reach the final.
We should have been more positive in the second half rather than sit back too much and let Italy dictate, but we'll try to address that next time.
WC next year and the team will be in a good shape to compete there too.
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Had the easiest side of the draw so I am not sure why that counts as doing amazingly to reach the final. Italy beat Spain and Belgium which is probably more amazing than Denmark and the Ukraine.elbowloh said:Lets forget about the penalties. This is the best and most successful England team we've had for over 50 years. I'm proud of the team and and the manager. I'm absolutely ashamed of the tossers who are abusing the players. The better team won on the day. We lost the final, but did amazingly well to reach the final.
We should have been more positive in the second half rather than sit back too much and let Italy dictate, but we'll try to address that next time.
WC next year and the team will be in a good shape to compete there too.
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this. smack it.surrey_commuter said:
3rd option is stright down the middle as hard as you canrick_chasey said:There are 2 ways to take a penalty.
Pick a spot and try to hit it, regardless of what the keeper does
Try and make the keeper go one way and then stick it in the other.
Neither is better than the other, they just have different advantages and drawbacks.
#toepunt.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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he tried to be ultra cool and figured that if he scored like that his would be the penalty they would show forever and he would be the immortal hero, the new "they think its all over, it is now" tv moment......TheBigBean said:
I don't agree with this. He missed by a fraction. I reckon 9/10 times he would score from that penalty.Pross said:As long as the penalty isn't ridiculously tame it is a bit harsh when people call a saved penalty a miss. Rashford's was the only genuinely bad one - I'm not sure if he was being a bit too cocky or if he just got hit by nerves as he started his run up and changed his mind. Both Maguire and Kane took very good penalties though, very little chance of any keeper stopping them even if the went the right way.
unfortunately it all went wrong.
he should have just smacked it with the accuracy earning £100k a week plus to kick a football it deserved..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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1/4s, no further.elbowloh said:Lets forget about the penalties. This is the best and most successful England team we've had for over 50 years. I'm proud of the team and and the manager. I'm absolutely ashamed of the tossers who are abusing the players. The better team won on the day. We lost the final, but did amazingly well to reach the final.
We should have been more positive in the second half rather than sit back too much and let Italy dictate, but we'll try to address that next time.
WC next year and the team will be in a good shape to compete there too.
You heard it hear first.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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is this the same dude who refused to watch England because they took the knee?Jezyboy said:
Well according to a tory MP he should have spent more time practicing penalties instead of playing politics.MattFalle said:
Marcus Rashford mural in Manchester defaced after penalty shootout defeatjoe2019 said:MattFalle said:
They don't seem to have trashed their capital city, tried to break into their stadium, fought the police, sent racial abuse to their players though do they.TheBigBean said:
They're idiots and when that many people watch a match, the number of idiots is higher.MattFalle said:On a far far far more serious topic, why taf are people directing racial abuse at England players?
I just don't understand it.
What's the excuse for Italian fans?
or did we all miss that headline?
Or booed every National Anthem, or shone a laser into a goalies face during a crucial penalty take...
https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/DFfWBn
one minute national hero, the next....
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Never saved in world cup history I believe (assuming it is in the air).surrey_commuter said:
3rd option is stright down the middle as hard as you canrick_chasey said:There are 2 ways to take a penalty.
Pick a spot and try to hit it, regardless of what the keeper does
Try and make the keeper go one way and then stick it in the other.
Neither is better than the other, they just have different advantages and drawbacks.0 -
