Euro 2020/21 (more football, sorry Brian)
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Both Mount and Chilwell are isolating though they have tested negative.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
Beggars believe no one is isolating in the Scotland squad having changed, showered, travelled, and trained with Gilmour.0 -
I assumed they are supposed to be in 'bio bubbles' anyway which begs the question how Gilmour caught it in the first place.Dorset_Boy said:
Both Mount and Chilwell are isolating though they have tested negative.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
Beggars believe no one is isolating in the Scotland squad having changed, showered, travelled, and trained with Gimour.0 -
Before this tournament, Austria had never win a game in the Euros, now they've won 2 and have qualified for the knockout rounds.0
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Does anybody know how the Covid rules apply to this tournament?elbowloh said:
Apparently not, as both players are now self isolating.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
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One supposes they are trying to game the tournament rules. So long as they did not go back through Manchester they should be fineDorset_Boy said:
Both Mount and Chilwell are isolating though they have tested negative.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
Beggars believe no one is isolating in the Scotland squad having changed, showered, travelled, and trained with Gilmour.0 -
same as everyone else - group of 4, play 3 games, has to come first or second to qualify for next round.surrey_commuter said:
Does anybody know how the Covid rules apply to this tournament?elbowloh said:
Apparently not, as both players are now self isolating.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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They aren't from Manchester, so they are safe.Dorset_Boy said:
Both Mount and Chilwell are isolating though they have tested negative.First.Aspect said:
It was outside so it was safe.elbowloh said:
Mount and Chillwell were both hugging him at the end of the game.surrey_commuter said:
England deny any close contact but you would hope they have placed his Chelsea team mates into isolationkingstongraham said:How has Gilmour not had any close contacts in the Scotland squad? Doesn't that make the whole concept of close contacts a bit risible?
Beggars believe no one is isolating in the Scotland squad having changed, showered, travelled, and trained with Gilmour.0 -
Always try to avoid 'we' when talking about teams I support as I don't actually play for them.womack said:
Pross: We get not they!!Pross said:How are Wales getting a second place team in the next round? Is it because Italy are one of the best group winners (3 wins from 3) and get one of the third place teams? Feels quite a good draw whoever they get.
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It is fine as long as you are available for selection.Pross said:
Always try to avoid 'we' when talking about teams I support as I don't actually play for them.womack said:
Pross: We get not they!!Pross said:How are Wales getting a second place team in the next round? Is it because Italy are one of the best group winners (3 wins from 3) and get one of the third place teams? Feels quite a good draw whoever they get.
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Pross, it's we, no big attitude amongst the Wales lads. There was me, some years back, a mere fan, sat at a table at Hooters outside the Arnie Schwarzenegger stadium in Graz, Austria. We have just beat Trinidad and Tobago in a friendly.Pross said:
Always try to avoid 'we' when talking about teams I support as I don't actually play for them.womack said:
Pross: We get not they!!Pross said:How are Wales getting a second place team in the next round? Is it because Italy are one of the best group winners (3 wins from 3) and get one of the third place teams? Feels quite a good draw whoever they get.
So comes and sits beside me and my mate, Danny Gabbidon, Robert Earnshaw and some young 16 year old boy with sticky out ears, just made an impressive debut for Wales. That boy, Gareth Bale, yes he may now be a multi millionaire but trust me nothing is more important to him than OUR country.1 -
So much for the theory that English people want the other home nations to do well. They were just openly saying on BBC Breakfast that they'd like to see Denmark progress further and that they'll be everyone's second team!0
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This feels a bit weird, going through already. I had a night off from the Euros, just looked at the scores before I fell asleep, and then woke to read we have qualified without playing. Has this happened before?0
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I don’t get the fuss about the use of the word “we” but in this instance who does it refer to?verylonglegs said:This feels a bit weird, going through already. I had a night off from the Euros, just looked at the scores before I fell asleep, and then woke to read we have qualified without playing. Has this happened before?
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Pross said:
So much for the theory that English people want the other home nations to do well. They were just openly saying on BBC Breakfast that they'd like to see Denmark progress further and that they'll be everyone's second team!
I think it's changed a bit in recent years - I get the impression most English would still want the Welsh to win if England can't though.
Scotland maybe not so much - personally they are my second team but I did support them when I was young and I am half Scottish.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Could Scotland’s opponents reasonably claim that they are are not following the rules on isolation and call for the game to be forfeited if they insist on using players who have been in close proximity to Gilmour?
Anybody know the rules around your responsibility to the opposition?0 -
What is meant by a contact
A contact is a person who has been close to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19. You can be a contact any time from 2 days before the person who tested positive developed their symptoms (or, if they did not have any symptoms, from 2 days before the date their positive test was taken), and up to 10 days after, as this is when they can pass the infection on to others. A risk assessment may be undertaken to determine this, but a contact can be:
- anyone who lives in the same household as another person who has COVID-19 symptoms or has tested positive for COVID-19
- anyone who has had any of the following types of contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19:
-- face-to-face contact including being coughed on or having a face-to-face conversation within one metre
-- been within one metre for one minute or longer without face-to-face contact
-- been within 2 metres of someone for more than 15 minutes (either as a one-off contact, or added up together over one day)
A person may also be a close contact if they have travelled in the same vehicle or plane as a case.
Apparently none of those within the whole Scotland squad. Maybe because he didn't have his phone on him, it doesn't count.0 -
thisPross said:So much for the theory that English people want the other home nations to do well. They were just openly saying on BBC Breakfast that they'd like to see Denmark progress further and that they'll be everyone's second team!
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I was thinking of UEFA rules. It seems very unfair on Croatia who could win and then lose half a team in the next roundkingstongraham said:What is meant by a contact
A contact is a person who has been close to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19. You can be a contact any time from 2 days before the person who tested positive developed their symptoms (or, if they did not have any symptoms, from 2 days before the date their positive test was taken), and up to 10 days after, as this is when they can pass the infection on to others. A risk assessment may be undertaken to determine this, but a contact can be:
- anyone who lives in the same household as another person who has COVID-19 symptoms or has tested positive for COVID-19
- anyone who has had any of the following types of contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19:
-- face-to-face contact including being coughed on or having a face-to-face conversation within one metre
-- been within one metre for one minute or longer without face-to-face contact
-- been within 2 metres of someone for more than 15 minutes (either as a one-off contact, or added up together over one day)
A person may also be a close contact if they have travelled in the same vehicle or plane as a case.
Apparently none of those within the whole Scotland squad. Maybe because he didn't have his phone on him, it doesn't count.0 -
verylonglegs said:
This feels a bit weird, going through already. I had a night off from the Euros, just looked at the scores before I fell asleep, and then woke to read we have qualified without playing. Has this happened before?
Of course it has, if other results fall in a certain way.
It also happens in league football with with promotion and relegation.
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Here they are...surrey_commuter said:
I was thinking of UEFA rules. It seems very unfair on Croatia who could win and then lose half a team in the next roundkingstongraham said:What is meant by a contact
A contact is a person who has been close to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19. You can be a contact any time from 2 days before the person who tested positive developed their symptoms (or, if they did not have any symptoms, from 2 days before the date their positive test was taken), and up to 10 days after, as this is when they can pass the infection on to others. A risk assessment may be undertaken to determine this, but a contact can be:
- anyone who lives in the same household as another person who has COVID-19 symptoms or has tested positive for COVID-19
- anyone who has had any of the following types of contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19:
-- face-to-face contact including being coughed on or having a face-to-face conversation within one metre
-- been within one metre for one minute or longer without face-to-face contact
-- been within 2 metres of someone for more than 15 minutes (either as a one-off contact, or added up together over one day)
A person may also be a close contact if they have travelled in the same vehicle or plane as a case.
Apparently none of those within the whole Scotland squad. Maybe because he didn't have his phone on him, it doesn't count.1. Should a group of players of a team be placed into mandatory quarantine or self-isolation following a decision of a competent national/local authority, the match will go ahead as scheduled as long as the team has at least 13 players available (including at least one goalkeeper), irrespective of any other provision of the relevant competition regulations (including the deadline
for the submission of the list of players), provided that all players are eligible to represent the national team in accordance with Art. 46 of the competition regulations and have been tested negative as required by the UEFA Protocol. Any additional player called up to meet the minimum of 13 players requires that an equivalent number of quarantined players are definitively withdrawn from the 26 players list.
2. If a national association is not in a position to field a team with the above-mentioned minimum number of players (i.e. 13 including at least one goalkeeper), the match may, if possible (i.e. subject to viable rescheduling options being available), be rescheduled within the next 48 hours of the date of the relevant match by the UEFA administration, which shall also have the power to assign the rescheduled match to an alternative venue.
3. If the match cannot be rescheduled, the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body (CEDB) will take a decision on the matter. The national association that is responsible for the match not taking place will be declared by the UEFA CEDB to have forfeited the match and will be considered to have lost the match 3-0.
4. If any member of the appointed referee team for a match tests positive for COVID-19, UEFA may exceptionally appoint replacement match officials who may be of the same nationality as one of the national associations concerned and/or may not be on the FIFA list.
So they need to have been placed into isolation by Public Health England, I think.0 -
Was that not a solidarity with Eriksen related comment?MattFalle said:
thisPross said:So much for the theory that English people want the other home nations to do well. They were just openly saying on BBC Breakfast that they'd like to see Denmark progress further and that they'll be everyone's second team!
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Of course it was, but that doesn't fit with MF's hatred of England.First.Aspect said:
Was that not a solidarity with Eriksen related comment?MattFalle said:
thisPross said:So much for the theory that English people want the other home nations to do well. They were just openly saying on BBC Breakfast that they'd like to see Denmark progress further and that they'll be everyone's second team!
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I know that, I meant very specifically...England progressing from the group stage without them or anyone else in their group playing.joe2019 said:verylonglegs said:This feels a bit weird, going through already. I had a night off from the Euros, just looked at the scores before I fell asleep, and then woke to read we have qualified without playing. Has this happened before?
Of course it has, if other results fall in a certain way.
It also happens in league football with with promotion and relegation.0 -
A draw makes sense for England and Czechia right?
They haven't thought this group stuff through.
They should make it so that only 2nd and the 3rd places play each other in the next round and group winners skip to the round after that.0 -
How would it make more money for the best teams not to play as many matches?rick_chasey said:A draw makes sense for England and Czechia right?
They haven't thought this group stuff through.
They should make it so that only 2nd and the 3rd places play each other in the next round and group winners skip to the round after that.0 -
Maybe you're right.kingstongraham said:
How would it make more money for the best teams not to play as many matches?rick_chasey said:A draw makes sense for England and Czechia right?
They haven't thought this group stuff through.
They should make it so that only 2nd and the 3rd places play each other in the next round and group winners skip to the round after that.
You want to avoid situations where draws are the best outcome for both sides.0