Tennis G.O.A.T?
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Maybe different to swimming, are swimming coaches paid by the organisation or the individual?wallace_and_gromit said:
She's maybe got a point. In my experience of the swimming world, coaches do not like being asked questions. They say it's because it's disrespectful to them, but in reality, it's usually because they can't back up what they're saying. And the situation is worse with males coaches and intelligent females.seanoconn said:Coaches will be queuing to work with the Raducanu family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/67166854
That said, the nature of the coach-coachee "game" is that you play by the rules or you don't play at all. She may have so much money already that she doesn't want to have to listen to palpable nonsense and smile sweetly at it several times a day just for the chance of more success on court.
Top tennis players paying coaches wouldn’t be expected to do as they are told, no questions. There would discuss goals and how/where to improve, working together to achieve.
Daughter and daddy sound as though they are difficult to work with and unless daddy is a top class coach, her best days could be behind her.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
That's the issue isn't it? It seems quite common in tennis that parents get their child to a certain level but then won't let go. Maybe they all fancy being the next Richard Williams.seanoconn said:
Maybe different to swimming, are swimming coaches paid by the organisation or the individual?wallace_and_gromit said:
She's maybe got a point. In my experience of the swimming world, coaches do not like being asked questions. They say it's because it's disrespectful to them, but in reality, it's usually because they can't back up what they're saying. And the situation is worse with males coaches and intelligent females.seanoconn said:Coaches will be queuing to work with the Raducanu family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/67166854
That said, the nature of the coach-coachee "game" is that you play by the rules or you don't play at all. She may have so much money already that she doesn't want to have to listen to palpable nonsense and smile sweetly at it several times a day just for the chance of more success on court.
Top tennis players paying coaches wouldn’t be expected to do as they are told, no questions. There would discuss goals and how/where to improve, working together to achieve.
Daughter and daddy sound as though they are difficult to work with and unless daddy is a top class coach, her best days could be behind her.0 -
Yep. Very difficult to get to the top in tennis without very supportive parents. Often that support spills over to obsession.Pross said:
That's the issue isn't it? It seems quite common in tennis that parents get their child to a certain level but then won't let go. Maybe they all fancy being the next Richard Williams.seanoconn said:
Maybe different to swimming, are swimming coaches paid by the organisation or the individual?wallace_and_gromit said:
She's maybe got a point. In my experience of the swimming world, coaches do not like being asked questions. They say it's because it's disrespectful to them, but in reality, it's usually because they can't back up what they're saying. And the situation is worse with males coaches and intelligent females.seanoconn said:Coaches will be queuing to work with the Raducanu family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/67166854
That said, the nature of the coach-coachee "game" is that you play by the rules or you don't play at all. She may have so much money already that she doesn't want to have to listen to palpable nonsense and smile sweetly at it several times a day just for the chance of more success on court.
Top tennis players paying coaches wouldn’t be expected to do as they are told, no questions. There would discuss goals and how/where to improve, working together to achieve.
Daughter and daddy sound as though they are difficult to work with and unless daddy is a top class coach, her best days could be behind her.
Anyone who hasn’t read Andre Agassi’s autobiography, I’d highly recommend as a typical example.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
I think the psychology is the same though. The outcome is different in that in swimming, the swimmer is "eased out" (via non-selection for teams etc.) whereas in pro tennis, the coach chooses to leave.seanoconn said:
Maybe different to swimming, are swimming coaches paid by the organisation or the individual?wallace_and_gromit said:
She's maybe got a point. In my experience of the swimming world, coaches do not like being asked questions. They say it's because it's disrespectful to them, but in reality, it's usually because they can't back up what they're saying. And the situation is worse with males coaches and intelligent females.seanoconn said:Coaches will be queuing to work with the Raducanu family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/67166854
That said, the nature of the coach-coachee "game" is that you play by the rules or you don't play at all. She may have so much money already that she doesn't want to have to listen to palpable nonsense and smile sweetly at it several times a day just for the chance of more success on court.
Top tennis players paying coaches wouldn’t be expected to do as they are told, no questions. There would discuss goals and how/where to improve, working together to achieve.
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Mary Pierce is another whose relationship with her father is "interesting". She eventually took out a restraining order against him after years of him attacking her and her opponents. He was famous for encouraging Mary at key moments by shouting out "Kill the b*tch".seanoconn said:
Yep. Very difficult to get to the top in tennis without very supportive parents. Often that support spills over to obsession.Pross said:
That's the issue isn't it? It seems quite common in tennis that parents get their child to a certain level but then won't let go. Maybe they all fancy being the next Richard Williams.seanoconn said:
Maybe different to swimming, are swimming coaches paid by the organisation or the individual?wallace_and_gromit said:
She's maybe got a point. In my experience of the swimming world, coaches do not like being asked questions. They say it's because it's disrespectful to them, but in reality, it's usually because they can't back up what they're saying. And the situation is worse with males coaches and intelligent females.seanoconn said:Coaches will be queuing to work with the Raducanu family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/67166854
That said, the nature of the coach-coachee "game" is that you play by the rules or you don't play at all. She may have so much money already that she doesn't want to have to listen to palpable nonsense and smile sweetly at it several times a day just for the chance of more success on court.
Top tennis players paying coaches wouldn’t be expected to do as they are told, no questions. There would discuss goals and how/where to improve, working together to achieve.
Daughter and daddy sound as though they are difficult to work with and unless daddy is a top class coach, her best days could be behind her.
Anyone who hasn’t read Andre Agassi’s autobiography, I’d highly recommend as a typical example.1 -
Alcaraz out, Djok out as well, Sinner looking mighty currently.
Alcaraz and Djok both lost to similar scorelines, but I didn't see either match to be honest.
Djok's first setback probably since Wimbledon last year.
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Been impressed by Sinner for a few years, always super focused and seems to have everything dialled in now. Not terribly flamboyant for an Italian but research shows he’s from a German speaking region.
Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי1 -
Yes, he is from Tirolo, not far away from Austria… but Italian in the making, coached and raised in Italy.
McEnroe predicted a few years back, when he was in top 100 or so, that he was in line to become the new no.1. He had a couple of developments seasons lately, until he blossomed last autumn.
He has now beaten Djokovic on 3 of the last 4 matches they had, first time on a slam, That should give him confidence that he is the one to beat and not the other way round.
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He is probably already the best male tennis player Italy ever had. Panatta won a slam, but was never ranked no.4… even among the womes, Pennetta and Schiavone won a slam, but were outsiders, never ranked very high.
In Italy he has quickly surged in popularity, to a status that in recent times only Alberto Tomba, Pantani, Baggio and Federica Pellegrini had… maybe to a lesser extent Nibali, universally liked by everyone… despite not having much of a media personality.
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Pretty exciting final by the look of it. Sinner is a battler.
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Fair play, finished it off without nerves for a first grand slam. Got the game to win Wimbledon too.
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this will boost his confidence… he can be no.1 and win any slam
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Quality match. Awesome hitting
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Sinner now no. 2 and becoming even more popular in Italy… we need a positive sporting hero, at a time when we only have mediocre footballers and not many exciting cyclists…
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