The big Coronavirus thread
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With Johnson ruling out even a London lockdown, it really does seem that the UK is going to follow the same trajectory as Italy, though even they locked down the north before the countrywide version.
Mind you, Johnson will probably criticise the Europeans for meddling:
"With EU governments including Italy, Spain and France requiring citizens to stay at home to contain the coronavirus, and Italy threatening to tighten restrictions even further, the French prime minister, Édouard Philippe, said if the UK did not follow suit soon, arrivals from Britain could be refused entry.
“Everyone in the EU must adopt logical methods and processes to fight against the epidemic,” Philippe said. “It’s obvious that if neighbouring states like the UK leave it too long, we would have difficulty allowing British citizens who are moving freely around their country to come to France.”0 -
Can the BOE eventually go to minus interest rates? It also highlights the reason interest rates shouldn't be kept at non-natural levels until it almost becomes the norm. Where's the leeway if the $h1t hits the fan?0
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We live in a small village, 20 miles from the nearest supermarket - usual story of disappeared local shops (grocers, diary, butchers, bakers etc).
This week the local store has seen an influx of 'town folk' who have travelled 20 miles to buy food because the town's supermarket shelves are empty. They assume, I guess, that our local store's footfall is comparatively small, so there will be more food on the shelves.
They even complain when they are told that they can only buy 3 items, 'I haven't driven 20 miles to be told I can only buy 3 tins of beans'.
Who'd have thought this was possible?0 -
And there are people who think this will bring us together. 🙄
To sing songs at night after a day of panic buying, maybe.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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What is the point. They are obviously nothing more than a guess.rick_chasey said:Christ.
JPM’s economists...
GS said last week thss will be a 'V' recovery so we can rule that recovery option out0 -
Surely they need to more to stop the spread in London now, the mortality rates clearly reflect this.0
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Aren't they the only 3 EU countries to take that action so far? Why aren't they mentioning Germany who, as far as I'm aware, also haven't resorted to lockdown yet? You'd think they would concentrate on countries with land borders first!briantrumpet said:With Johnson ruling out even a London lockdown, it really does seem that the UK is going to follow the same trajectory as Italy, though even they locked down the north before the countrywide version.
Mind you, Johnson will probably criticise the Europeans for meddling:
"With EU governments including Italy, Spain and France requiring citizens to stay at home to contain the coronavirus, and Italy threatening to tighten restrictions even further, the French prime minister, Édouard Philippe, said if the UK did not follow suit soon, arrivals from Britain could be refused entry.
“Everyone in the EU must adopt logical methods and processes to fight against the epidemic,” Philippe said. “It’s obvious that if neighbouring states like the UK leave it too long, we would have difficulty allowing British citizens who are moving freely around their country to come to France.”0 -
Seems similar around here, the one thing I can't get is pasta other than spaghetti or lasagne sheets but the local Spar is getting deliveries a few times a day. I think there are still people who can't overcome the 'inconvenience' of not getting everything under the same roof. Considering the battle the restaurant trade is taking you'd think that wholesalers that supply them might diversify into more general deliveries for the time being. I'm also surprised that supermarkets aren't increasing their click and collect as that would minimise contact, I suspect they'll do something on those lines soon though as they are usually a sector that adapts quickly to customer need.briantrumpet said:
So far, the little local Co-op's been fine, but the Aldi up the road's been bonkers. But then the baskets in the Co-op are small, and the social disapproval would be obvious... plus I think the people on the till wouldn't allow silly quantities of anything.awavey said:
I've been assuming that for the past week,it ain't happened yet:(DeVlaeminck said:I assume the panic buying will die down in a couple of days you can only hoard so much especially as it seems to include fresh food.
And I agree we are in the people react to reports of panic buying by panic buying, and just in time deliveries arent helping things.
But when will a semblance of normality return to it ? Ill be running out of fairly basic stuff by next week unless the situation improves.0 -
Not in our Co-ops, either their delivery system is knackered or people are just strip mining them as soon as they open, I dread to think what it's like at the bargain supermarkets.briantrumpet said:
So far, the little local Co-op's been fine, but the Aldi up the road's been bonkers. But then the baskets in the Co-op are small, and the social disapproval would be obvious... plus I think the people on the till wouldn't allow silly quantities of anything.awavey said:
I've been assuming that for the past week,it ain't happened yet:(DeVlaeminck said:I assume the panic buying will die down in a couple of days you can only hoard so much especially as it seems to include fresh food.
And I agree we are in the people react to reports of panic buying by panic buying, and just in time deliveries arent helping things.
But when will a semblance of normality return to it ? Ill be running out of fairly basic stuff by next week unless the situation improves.0 -
I guess they are second-guessing the political optics, rather than making a hard and speedy restriction of liberties.focuszing723 said:Surely they need to more to stop the spread in London now, the mortality rates clearly reflect this.
It looks like the reality in the US will start to emerge.
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Aren't they the only 3 EU countries to take that action so far? Why aren't they mentioning Germany who, as far as I'm aware, also haven't resorted to lockdown yet? You'd think they would concentrate on countries with land borders first!briantrumpet said:With Johnson ruling out even a London lockdown, it really does seem that the UK is going to follow the same trajectory as Italy, though even they locked down the north before the countrywide version.
Mind you, Johnson will probably criticise the Europeans for meddling:
"With EU governments including Italy, Spain and France requiring citizens to stay at home to contain the coronavirus, and Italy threatening to tighten restrictions even further, the French prime minister, Édouard Philippe, said if the UK did not follow suit soon, arrivals from Britain could be refused entry.
“Everyone in the EU must adopt logical methods and processes to fight against the epidemic,” Philippe said. “It’s obvious that if neighbouring states like the UK leave it too long, we would have difficulty allowing British citizens who are moving freely around their country to come to France.”
Can't possibly be upsetting their German neighbours, can they.......
Spoke with a colleague who is based in Madrid. She said that it was shocking how little social distancing was actually happening among the general population until just a few days ago when the police were put on the streets and told to arrest anyone walking about. In general terms I feel that in most instances the general population here has listened and heeded the "social distancing" advice much more - definitely not perfect but most have been very conscious of it.0 -
This sounds horribly like the trajectory the UK is on.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/19/the-end-of-joie-de-vivre-france-gets-serious-on-coronavirus0 -
Does anyone else think the Chief Medical Officer could be Chris Froome's dad? Very similar appearance and mannerisms.Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"0
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I have a really bad feeling about NYC and London.
Really bad.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
haha, now you mention it..............crescent said:Does anyone else think the Chief Medical Officer could be Chris Froome's dad? Very similar appearance and mannerisms.
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I am glad I'm not in a big city. It would be a stretch to say life in my part of the world is going on as normal but it certainly sounds like it is changing far more in the metropolis. The images I saw from New York earlier were surreal.tailwindhome said:I have a really bad feeling about NYC and London.
Really bad.0 -
tailwindhome said:
I have a really bad feeling about NYC and London.
Really bad.
Yup. Reading about delays of just a couple of days in France, in dynamic places where people are moving around freely, it's the perfect place for a virus... and this thing seems to be waaay more contagious than flu. And I think the numbers are being wildly under-reported now, and it's been spreading throughout the population since routine testing stopped, even outside of London.0 -
Do I detect a small swing towards disapproval of the Govt’s approach?0
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kingstonian said:
Can't possibly be upsetting their German neighbours, can they.......
Spoke with a colleague who is based in Madrid. She said that it was shocking how little social distancing was actually happening among the general population until just a few days ago when the police were put on the streets and told to arrest anyone walking about. In general terms I feel that in most instances the general population here has listened and heeded the "social distancing" advice much more - definitely not perfect but most have been very conscious of it.
The people in Madrid where not typical of what I witnessed in the area of Spain where I am based, they chose to ignore warnings and at the weekend ventured off to their holiday homes in the south therefor helping the disease spread. Social distancing and self isolation in my area started a couple of days before the government made it mandatory.
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briantrumpet said:
So far, the little local Co-op's been fine, but the Aldi up the road's been bonkers. But then the baskets in the Co-op are small, and the social disapproval would be obvious... plus I think the people on the till wouldn't allow silly quantities of anything.awavey said:
I've been assuming that for the past week,it ain't happened yet:(DeVlaeminck said:I assume the panic buying will die down in a couple of days you can only hoard so much especially as it seems to include fresh food.
And I agree we are in the people react to reports of panic buying by panic buying, and just in time deliveries arent helping things.
But when will a semblance of normality return to it ? Ill be running out of fairly basic stuff by next week unless the situation improves.
Shoppers at the big supermarkets have been stockpiling beer. In the coming months when they are struggling to make ends meet and the rent/mortgage is due, they can console themselves with the garage full of Carling/Stella/Budweiser that they have spunked their money on.0 -
I'm going to brew my own beer. Planting veg. Of course this all educational for my daughter, part of home school. 8 year olds need to k ow the beer making process right. Lots of good chemistry in that too.www.thecycleclinic.co.uk0
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The only comfort here is that it does seem to be controllable... but nearly everyone started too late, and is continuing to do so.
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The older I get, the better I was.0 -
Was on my way to the funeral today in my car.
Really really surprised by how full all the cafés were.
Had half a mind to go in and bollock them all.
Suspect I may do en route to the chemist to pick up my wife’s and daughter’s prescription, tomorrow.0 -
rick_chasey said:
Was on my way to the funeral today in my car.
Really really surprised by how full all the cafés were.
Had half a mind to go in and censored them all.
Suspect I may do en route to the chemist to pick up my wife’s and daughter’s prescription, tomorrow.
FFS. I was just reminding myself that post-WW2 rationing went on for nine years, and these cockwombles won't give up a few weeks of their pïssy lattes to try to stop thousands dying unnecessarily.0
