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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    rick_chasey said:

    Meanwhile this entire sh!tstorm is not making the funeral of a family member on Thursday very easy.

    Lots of old people...people flying in from abroad.

    Bloody nightmare.

    Yeah, that's the reality of the situation. Isolation, social distancing is easier said than done.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    SC here is your answer - with added link to the research report

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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    rick_chasey said:

    SC here is your answer - with added link to the research report

    Whoa those look like quite scary numbers😮, these are worst case estimates right ?
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    rick_chasey said:

    So is BoJo mates with the insurers?

    Only he’s not forcing any pubs clubs theatres etc to shut down only telling people not to go so they won’t trigger their insurance...


    The only way to go is to to seek the foster the public's co-operation rather than compulsion. If something is compulsorily closed down, the measure would need enforcement, which is impracticable.
    If places were compulsorily closed, the measure may be respected short term, but not for long until people started to use them again. If you can get people to buy into the idea that socialising is against the common good (and to do so is ...erm... antisocial)you have more chance of succeeding for longer. There are always those that want to be seen to be the rebel.

    Brits abroad. Proud to be British ffs!
    An example of behaviour during 'lock down'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8116745/Weve-got-virus-na-na-na-na-British-tourists-taunt-police-coronavirus-Benidorm.html
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited March 2020
    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,917
    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    Take comfort from the fact that however bad it gets, however many businesses close their doors for good, the MPs will still get their full salary, pensions and £50 golden handshake when they call it a day. :)


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,917
    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    Too soon?
    _
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    rick_chasey said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    Too soon?
    Nah.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    rick_chasey said:

    Meanwhile this entire sh!tstorm is not making the funeral of a family member on Thursday very easy.

    Lots of old people...people flying in from abroad.

    Bloody nightmare.

    It was the funeral of my wife’s uncle last Thursday. She wasn’t able to go, nor were other family members based outside of the UK. Very sad.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    If it's any consolation, I doubt her uncle minded.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Our UK offices just got shut down, the problem is I left 80 Nespresso capsules in my desk. If anybody wants to trade for loo roll then let me know.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Have the same problem with my Uncle's funeral next week. :(
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    100% occupancy.
    Hurrah!

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Grim thread on the modelling

    Seems it's being updated with new data

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    surrey_commuter said:

    Our UK offices just got shut down, the problem is I left 80 Nespresso capsules in my desk. If anybody wants to trade for loo roll then let me know.

    :D:D
    _
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    edited March 2020
    awavey said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC here is your answer - with added link to the research report

    Whoa those look like quite scary numbers😮, these are worst case estimates right ?
    The American expert described it as.... there’s the best case line and the worst case line on a graph and where we will fall imbetween those two lines depends on the government’s response. If the government doesn’t nothing we will be closer and closer to the worst case line
    "The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    tailwindhome said:

    Grim thread on the modelling

    Seems it's being updated with new data

    Can somebody explain that to me as it seems to be saying that Boris is following a model that results in a ludicrous number of deaths compared to Korea which is on 75.

    Is that over a number of years?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    100% occupancy.
    Hurrah!

    And they will be in no fit state to argue over the tab you run up for them for the mini bar and porn channels.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    100% occupancy.
    Hurrah!

    Turnover is vanity, profit is reality.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    ballysmate said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Mate those shops and cafés won’t reopen if they can’t claim the insurance.

    I work in a hotel
    In NI
    It's 7pm on the night before St Patricks Day
    We have one table of 2 in the restaurant.
    That's not where I imagined you would work. I had you down as a Sammy Wilson look alike working in an office. I'll assume that I'll be put on block after that comment!
    Yeah, office based as the hotel accountant.

    If the operational staff think it's grim they wanna see what I'm looking at.
    Things will pick up when it is converted into a temporary hospital.
    100% occupancy.
    Hurrah!

    Turnover is vanity, profit is reality.
    Cash flow is sanity
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    "But the approach was found to be unworkable. "Our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over," perhaps by as much as eight times, the report said.

    In this scenario, the Imperial College team predicted as many as 250,000 deaths in Britain.

    "In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days," the report explained, due to new data on likely intensive care unit demand based on the experience of Italy and Britain so far.

    "We were expecting herd immunity to build. We now realise it’s not possible to cope with that." Professor Azra Ghani, chair of infectious diseases epidemiology at Imperial, told journalists at a briefing on Monday night."

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-strategy-deaths
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • thecycleclinic
    thecycleclinic Posts: 395
    edited March 2020
    What ever the government says there will be 6 months of this disruption with more to come at least. It's going to be a long year for everyone. As a result the government is going to have to take some radical action so there are businesses left when this is all over.
    www.thecycleclinic.co.uk
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Fuck
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    250,000 people just in the U.K. Christ.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    The modelling

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!

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