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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    3 positives in my daughter's circle of friends at uni.

    So far she's negative, but due another pcr in the morning

    Miraculously negative.

    Collected this morning in 'The last SUV out of Queens'
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    3 positives in my daughter's circle of friends at uni.

    So far she's negative, but due another pcr in the morning

    Miraculously negative.

    Collected this morning in 'The last SUV out of Queens'
    Some people seem to miraculously avoid it.

    Had a mate who spent 8 hours in a car with a guy who had rona - never got it.

    There must be a gene somewhere or something.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Holland 🇳🇱 about to go into full lockdown.

    Think it’s a battle between sage and the Tory party here about when to do it.

    Almost certainly will happen.

    If they base their decisions on Neil Ferguson's latest 'study', then they almost certainly will. Regardless of the fact that his predictions have historically been massively inaccurate about pretty much everything since the virus first appeared.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,816

    3 positives in my daughter's circle of friends at uni.

    So far she's negative, but due another pcr in the morning

    Miraculously negative.

    Collected this morning in 'The last SUV out of Queens'
    Some people seem to miraculously avoid it.

    Had a mate who spent 8 hours in a car with a guy who had rona - never got it.

    There must be a gene somewhere or something.
    I'd agree with that. Lad has had a couple of very close encounters and come back negative. His house at uni had two positives and two negatives. They had decided they were all in it together so didn't isolate to their rooms and all isolated as a unit. How two didn't get it seems odd. He's now isolating in his room as his girlfriend tested positive and he's waiting on a PCR result. Fingers crossed he's clear.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183

    3 positives in my daughter's circle of friends at uni.

    So far she's negative, but due another pcr in the morning

    Miraculously negative.

    Collected this morning in 'The last SUV out of Queens'
    Some people seem to miraculously avoid it.

    Had a mate who spent 8 hours in a car with a guy who had rona - never got it.

    There must be a gene somewhere or something.
    That wouldn’t be so unusual. For example, some people have a tiny mutation in a the protein that HIV uses to gain entry and infect immune cells. It is seen frequently in seronegative high risk individuals.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    Mad_Malx said:

    3 positives in my daughter's circle of friends at uni.

    So far she's negative, but due another pcr in the morning

    Miraculously negative.

    Collected this morning in 'The last SUV out of Queens'
    Some people seem to miraculously avoid it.

    Had a mate who spent 8 hours in a car with a guy who had rona - never got it.

    There must be a gene somewhere or something.
    That wouldn’t be so unusual. For example, some people have a tiny mutation in a the protein that HIV uses to gain entry and infect immune cells. It is seen frequently in seronegative high risk individuals.
    ... and a successful entry blocking drug was developed as a consequence of this knowledge. If an analogous mutation is identified in ACE2 (the covid19 entry protein), then a viral entry blocker could be made. A few years down the line though.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    As an aside, a career’s length ago, I declined a PhD student post in molecular modelling of ACE. If, if, if.....I might have been someone now....
  • Holland 🇳🇱 about to go into full lockdown.

    Think it’s a battle between sage and the Tory party here about when to do it.

    Almost certainly will happen.

    If they base their decisions on Neil Ferguson's latest 'study', then they almost certainly will. Regardless of the fact that his predictions have historically been massively inaccurate about pretty much everything since the virus first appeared.
    His prediction of up to 120,000 deaths if we implement social distancing and case isolation does look low in hindsight.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Mad_Malx said:

    As an aside, a career’s length ago, I declined a PhD student post in molecular modelling of ACE. If, if, if.....I might have been someone now....

    Well so could anyone.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    edited December 2021
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    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    pangolin said:

    Mad_Malx said:

    As an aside, a career’s length ago, I declined a PhD student post in molecular modelling of ACE. If, if, if.....I might have been someone now....

    Well so could anyone.

    Anniversary of Kirsty MacColl’s death today, sadly..
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    Currently wondering how long it will be until BJ has to make an unplanned appearance on TV to say "I'm sorry but....".
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    On Thurs 861k boosters were done.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Major incident declared in London.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59710649

    Making the announcement on Saturday, Mr Khan said: "The really bad news is those in hospital - the vast, vast majority are unvaccinated that's why it is so important to get both the vaccines and the booster jab.


    Does respecting people's right to decide not to get vaccinated extend as far as respecting their right to prevent others getting care?

    I wonder how much this (and last year's parties) will reduce compliance if/when more rules arrive.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,816
    Lad's PCR came back negative, very relieved.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,350
    Really fascinating to see how the rates around the country vary differently over time - it wasn't that long ago that we were asking the question here why London seemed to be escaping the worst of the Delta wave, and now it's going really wrong there, with LA rates up to 1600/100k and the whole of London looking a bit grim. If those catching it there are mostly unvaccinated (as Khan is saying, in declaring the major incident), and if a fair proportion of those are going to end up in ICUs or die, it could be, erm, bad news indeed.
  • Look hopefully I'm wrong. SAGE know a lot more about this than I do, so I guess they must have some reasons to be more optimistic than me.

    I think the mistake made here two days ago was assuming that what had been announced was what sage had said might be needed.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-m-o-consensus-statement-on-covid-19-8-december-2021/spi-m-o-consensus-statement-on-covid-19-8-december-2021
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    edited December 2021
    An imagining - "We took the best available scientific advice, then ignored it."
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It’s a lotta bodies piling up in front of no 10….
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,350

    It’s a lotta bodies piling up in front of no 10….

    Such as this one...


  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    Even if there isn't much in the way additional restrictions, behaviour has changed.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Yes, agreed. Loads of people being very selective over which events they do and don’t go to, mask wearing much more prevalent.
  • pblakeney said:

    Currently wondering how long it will be until BJ has to make an unplanned appearance on TV to say "I'm sorry but....".

    Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday next week. He’s had Rishi doing the financials, as soon as they are sorted, Boris can pull the trigger.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,350
    And still it falls... really fascinating. The amount and complexity of incoming data must be immense.


  • Holland 🇳🇱 about to go into full lockdown.

    Think it’s a battle between sage and the Tory party here about when to do it.

    Almost certainly will happen.

    If they base their decisions on Neil Ferguson's latest 'study', then they almost certainly will. Regardless of the fact that his predictions have historically been massively inaccurate about pretty much everything since the virus first appeared.
    His prediction of up to 120,000 deaths if we implement social distancing and case isolation does look low in hindsight.
    With an R number of 3 -5 with Omicron, I’d say it’s going to get close to his predictions this time.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    It’s a lotta bodies piling up in front of no 10….

    Such as this one...


    Just when spaffer thought things couldn't get any worse...

  • It’s a lotta bodies piling up in front of no 10….

    Queuing up for the Christmas party….
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Has the Pfizer pill been approved?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    Has the Pfizer pill been approved?

    Yes