The big Coronavirus thread

N0bodyOfTheGoat

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

blazing_saddles

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

We are saved!

kingstongraham

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

Jezyboy

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

rick_chasey

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

First.Aspect

Jezyboy said:

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

No, really? Sturgeon has had the press to herself for 2 years in our 1-party state, and in between policies that have made essentially no difference whatsoever between Scotland and the Buffoon's policy, she's used whatever capacity for governing remains to push an independence agenda. Because, well that's the next most important thing, right?

Mad_Malx

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

Not come across that one before, like it.

briantrumpet

Mad_Malx said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

Not come across that one before, like it.

Without doing the maths, I suspect that the stipulation of a 31-day month is the giveaway.

Pross

Jezyboy said:

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

I think there's been an element of wanting to look more serious about it than Boris. A lot of the new restrictions in place in England stayed throught in the other home nations (with no real difference in everyday life for most of us)

pinkbikini

Another day of supply chain issues in SW London. Previously clinics had been doing both booster appointments and walk-ins at really impressive levels, some with only 10min wait times.

From next week no walk-ins as they can’t get the vaccine supply. No available LFTs for collection from any pharmacies.

So we have super-efficient booster centre staff sitting on their hands!

Distribution is such a critical part of all this planning. Entirely predictable situation based on, you know, predictable human behaviour.

And of course, either denials or silence from Spaffer.

pblakeney

First.Aspect said:

Jezyboy said:

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

No, really? Sturgeon has had the press to herself for 2 years in our 1-party state, and in between policies that have made essentially no difference whatsoever between Scotland and the Buffoon's policy, she's used whatever capacity for governing remains to push an independence agenda. Because, well that's the next most important thing, right?

Not arguing, but the bold part was quite ironic.

First.Aspect

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

Jezyboy said:

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

No, really? Sturgeon has had the press to herself for 2 years in our 1-party state, and in between policies that have made essentially no difference whatsoever between Scotland and the Buffoon's policy, she's used whatever capacity for governing remains to push an independence agenda. Because, well that's the next most important thing, right?

Not arguing, but the bold part was quite ironic.

There are serious concerns in the press here about how the SNP conduct themselves. There is a strong whiff of the FIA about them, in terms of assessing their own behaviour and deciding it is okay. There are also concerns about the independence of the judiciary, and of ministers over riding or disregarding legal rulings.

Sound familiar?

rick_chasey

Mad_Malx said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

Not come across that one before, like it.

2^30 is.... roughly £10,000,000

DeVlaeminck

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

More of a maths question than logic.

First.Aspect

DeVlaeminck said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

More of a maths question than logic.

More traditionally framed in terms of grains of rice and a chess board.

Just calculate 2^30. It is more than £5M, but Brian is correct that the 31 day month is important.

pblakeney

First.Aspect said:

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

Jezyboy said:

kingstongraham said:

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Doing that in 10 days time doesn't scream urgency. Or much confidence in the covid pass.

I do think the Welsh and Scottish governments have used covid in a bit of a cynical way at times.

That's not to defend anything that the UK government has done though.

No, really? Sturgeon has had the press to herself for 2 years in our 1-party state, and in between policies that have made essentially no difference whatsoever between Scotland and the Buffoon's policy, she's used whatever capacity for governing remains to push an independence agenda. Because, well that's the next most important thing, right?

Not arguing, but the bold part was quite ironic.

There are serious concerns in the press here about how the SNP conduct themselves. There is a strong whiff of the FIA about them, in terms of assessing their own behaviour and deciding it is okay. There are also concerns about the independence of the judiciary, and of ministers over riding or disregarding legal rulings.

Sound familiar?

Yes.
That's why I posted.

JimD666

First.Aspect said:

DeVlaeminck said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

More of a maths question than logic.

More traditionally framed in terms of grains of rice and a chess board.

Just calculate 2^30. It is more than £5M, but Brian is correct that the 31 day month is important.

As long as it wasn't February any month works. 5.3 Million for a 30 day.

TheBigBean

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

£5m now. No credit risk.

mrb123

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

£5m now. No credit risk.

Plus imagine having to take all those pennies to the bank.

kingstonian

So my brother landed in Geneva 30 mins ago. His one key takeaway from the journey so far is that the whole “negative PCR test to fly” thing would be so easily forged - all he’s done is show a pdf of his test result and no one at any point has actually compared the name on the test to the name in his passport.

He breezed through Swiss immigration, and is now wondering if at any point French immigration will actually know he’s gone into France. If not, it will show what a farce the new entry rules starting tomorrow are.

rjsterry

mrb123 said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

£5m now. No credit risk.

Plus imagine having to take all those pennies to the bank.

All 2,684 tonnes of them.

rick_chasey

kingstonian said:

So my brother landed in Geneva 30 mins ago. His one key takeaway from the journey so far is that the whole “negative PCR test to fly” thing would be so easily forged - all he’s done is show a pdf of his test result and no one at any point has actually compared the name on the test to the name in his passport.

He breezed through Swiss immigration, and is now wondering if at any point French immigration will actually know he’s gone into France. If not, it will show what a farce the new entry rules starting tomorrow are.

It was the same when I went to holland during the autumn restrictions. I think it's more about deterring people unless they *really* want to come, by making them jump through all the hoops, with the threat of some officious border guard may put you in isolation in an airport till they sort you out.

TheBigBean

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

£5m now. No credit risk.

The other factor to consider in an offer like this is the small print which offers a 6% daily commission to the product seller.

capt_slog

rjsterry said:

mrb123 said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

£5m now. No credit risk.

Plus imagine having to take all those pennies to the bank.

All 2,684 tonnes of them.

Piddling small change.

rick_chasey

I find it a helpful example with exponential stuff.

Even 20 days in you're only at £10k.

You can see in the pre-modern science world how these plagues would seem to come out of nowhere.

Ben6899

briantrumpet said:

Mad_Malx said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

Not come across that one before, like it.

Without doing the maths, I suspect that the stipulation of a 31-day month is the giveaway.

I think a 30 day month also leaves you better off.

joe2019

Yesterday, China recorded its 100,000th case of Covid-19 since the very start of the pandemic.

Ben6899

kingstonian said:

So my brother landed in Geneva 30 mins ago. His one key takeaway from the journey so far is that the whole “negative PCR test to fly” thing would be so easily forged - all he’s done is show a pdf of his test result and no one at any point has actually compared the name on the test to the name in his passport.

He breezed through Swiss immigration, and is now wondering if at any point French immigration will actually know he’s gone into France. If not, it will show what a farce the new entry rules starting tomorrow are.

To be fair, you're supposed to voluntarily declare movement between European mainland countries. It's probably more important if you're driving, and might be asked for your papers, when you'll be expected to show up on the database.

briantrumpet

Ben6899 said:

briantrumpet said:

Mad_Malx said:

rick_chasey said:

I am always reminded of that logic question.

Someone offers you £5,000,000 or to double your money every day for a month (31 day month), starting with 1p.

Which would you go for?

Not come across that one before, like it.

Without doing the maths, I suspect that the stipulation of a 31-day month is the giveaway.

I think a 30 day month also leaves you better off.

Fair enough, though the having to specify the length of the month in any way (even by just excluding February) slightly spoils any surprise about whereabouts the total is breached.

Ncovidius

N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59685864

Nightclubs to close from 27th in Wales and 2m social distancing in shops and work places.

Wales have pulled the trigger then. They’ve gone for the 27th. I reckon it’s almost inevitable that England and Scotland will follow suit. I was hoping they’d leave it until January, but given todays figures I can’t see that happening.