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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited December 2021
    The more I think about it the more I can’t see a situation where hospitals don’t run out of road.

    I don’t think it will cope with so many people simultaneously ill.

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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    Me too, for about a day really.

    But it beats the alternative.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    rick_chasey said:

    tailwindhome said:

    kingstongraham said:

    rick_chasey said:

    kingstonian said:

    656.7K booster doses administered yesterday - numbers are ramping up

    bUt VaCcInE PasSpOrTs DoNt Do AnYtHiNg
    Everyone who gets a booster would have been OK for the covid pass without it.

    I think people are getting boosted mostly because there's a nasty virus about.
    I suspect that's also the reason people are cancelling stuff

    Lockdown but without the treasury being on the hook.

    Went out for a drink tonight (suspect it’ll be the last time for a while) and I cycle past a lot of restaurants and they were all almost empty.
    The Swedish model
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,816
    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    edited December 2021
    Achy arm, but otherwise fine. Had Pfizer rather than Moderna for the booster. Had no reaction at all to my second dose either, so I hope it's working 😕.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,816
    BBC breakfast reporting that France are significantly tightening up their entry requirements for UK visitors.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    edited December 2021
    pangolin said:

    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    The people I know who have had Moderna all had quite strong reactions. I had 2xAZ + Pfizer.

    Croydon Centrale was admirably efficient for dishing out boosters.
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    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    I was really rough with my 1st AZ jab but had no bother with the booster I had 2 days ago.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Moderna has the best efficacy vs omicron.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    How is this going to end up in anything other than another lockdown?

    The maths just doesn't stack up to either that or people dying whilst waiting to get into over-full hospitals.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    rick_chasey said:

    Moderna has the best efficacy vs omicron.

    It is marginal. More about the data available at the time than anything else.

    Third jab reactions are likely proportionate to the strength and speed of the immune response.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    mrb123 said:

    BBC breakfast reporting that France are significantly tightening up their entry requirements for UK visitors.

    Trying to flatten the curve I suppose.

    But they already have community circulation so they can't be more than a few days behind.

    Bit of a pointless crowd pleaser.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Moderna has the best efficacy vs omicron.

    It is marginal. More about the data available at the time than anything else.

    Third jab reactions are likely proportionate to the strength and speed of the immune response.
    Anecdotally, moderna has generated more side effects than any of the other jabs > a brother in law was in bed for 3 days after it (though he is also a massive pansy).
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    rick_chasey said:

    First.Aspect said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Moderna has the best efficacy vs omicron.

    It is marginal. More about the data available at the time than anything else.

    Third jab reactions are likely proportionate to the strength and speed of the immune response.
    Anecdotally, moderna has generated more side effects than any of the other jabs > a brother in law was in bed for 3 days after it (though he is also a massive pansy).
    My booster was Moderna but then again I'm tough as nails :D
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited December 2021
    Cyclists, innit. F@ckin' nails the lot of us.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    pangolin said:

    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    I had Moderna yesterday at a walk in - don't feel awful but have a bit of a headache, arm is a bit tender, felt weak yesterday went I went to the shop .

    First two were AZ and felt fine with those.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    In my circles the worst side effects seem to have been from youngish people getting the AZ one.


    I'll get to experience the moderna on the 22nd, don't fancy three days in bed over Christmas though!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Jezyboy said:

    In my circles the worst side effects seem to have been from youngish people getting the AZ one.


    I'll get to experience the moderna on the 22nd, don't fancy three days in bed over Christmas though!

    Claim you feel sh!t even if you don't - get out of all the work.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,352
    First.Aspect said:

    mrb123 said:

    BBC breakfast reporting that France are significantly tightening up their entry requirements for UK visitors.

    Trying to flatten the curve I suppose.

    But they already have community circulation so they can't be more than a few days behind.

    Bit of a pointless crowd pleaser.

    Yup, and totally screwed my Christmas planning. Oh well, aim for February half term instead.

    Government spokesman Gabriel Attal says this morning the prime minister’s office will make “in the next few hours” announcements regarding travellers from the UK.

    Attal says travellers from the UK will have to show a PCR/antigen test less than 24 hours old (as opposed to 48 hours until now).

    Only French citizens returning from the UK, or British people living in France, will be allowed to come to France.

    Travellers will have to give a compelling reason to be allowed to enter the country. People arriving from the UK will have to isolate at a location they choose, their isolation will end after 48 hours if they show a negative test.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yeah sorry to hear that.

    January is going to be really grim again. Last January was definitely a low point for me. Here's hoping a working wrist will make it less miserable this time around.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Jezyboy said:

    In my circles the worst side effects seem to have been from youngish people getting the AZ one.


    I'll get to experience the moderna on the 22nd, don't fancy three days in bed over Christmas though!

    That's because young people are complete snowflakes, on the whole.

    3 days in bed. Viable alternative to work?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah sorry to hear that.

    January is going to be really grim again. Last January was definitely a low point for me. Here's hoping a working wrist will make it less miserable this time around.

    Fnarr fnarr.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah sorry to hear that.

    January is going to be really grim again. Last January was definitely a low point for me. Here's hoping a working wrist will make it less miserable this time around.

    You may experience soreness.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    DeVlaeminck said:

    pangolin said:

    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    I had Moderna yesterday at a walk in - don't feel awful but have a bit of a headache, arm is a bit tender, felt weak yesterday went I went to the shop .

    First two were AZ and felt fine with those.
    My arm really hurts this time. Maybe I got unlucky with the nurse. Is it a myth that arm soreness is down to the skill of the jabber? What do they do differently?

    I'll stop whining now.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    pangolin said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    pangolin said:

    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    I had Moderna yesterday at a walk in - don't feel awful but have a bit of a headache, arm is a bit tender, felt weak yesterday went I went to the shop .

    First two were AZ and felt fine with those.
    My arm really hurts this time. Maybe I got unlucky with the nurse. Is it a myth that arm soreness is down to the skill of the jabber? What do they do differently?

    I'll stop whining now.
    I have had two who used the over-arm technique, straight in at right angles. My vet takes more care with our cats.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    2 x AZ + Pfizer for me. Zero effects. Set a PB the day after the booster.
    Are they doing placebos? 🤣
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    First.Aspect said:

    pangolin said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    pangolin said:

    mrb123 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    pangolin said:

    Feel absolutely rough. Wonder why the flu vax never has this effect.

    I wondered the same thing. I felt terrible for several days, after my booster too.
    I was told that a lot more folks have been reporting side effects after number 3 jab, than after 1 and 2.


    My reaction has been more similar to my first jab than my second. Wondering if it's due to the booster being a different type of vaccine.

    Hmm maybe, I've had moderna for all 3
    I had Moderna yesterday at a walk in - don't feel awful but have a bit of a headache, arm is a bit tender, felt weak yesterday went I went to the shop .

    First two were AZ and felt fine with those.
    My arm really hurts this time. Maybe I got unlucky with the nurse. Is it a myth that arm soreness is down to the skill of the jabber? What do they do differently?

    I'll stop whining now.
    I have had two who used the over-arm technique, straight in at right angles. My vet takes more care with our cats.
    I guess you're less likely to scratch them?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono

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