The big Coronavirus thread
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Not enough people get thisFirst.Aspect said:
And the discipline and lack of distractions from Amazon deliveries, cats, toast, etc.TheBigBean said:
This is pre-covid, but I used to enjoy the peace and multiple screens.rick_chasey said:
Might be different for your world but what is the point of going into the office is everyone else is at home? Might as well be home.First.Aspect said:
You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.rick_chasey said:To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.
So for me it’s Tues Thurs
The talking part for me is the "not work" part of the job.0 -
3-5 days a week. I realised rather later than I should have that sitting at the dining room table every day was doing my head in. Has massively improved my state of mind. Collaborative working is also ten times easier face to face.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Have you had a look at BS EN 397. I am sure you are an expert in this area.First.Aspect said:
Please, make it stop.john80 said:
It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.imposter2.0 said:
I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.john80 said:
I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.0 -
Back in 3 days per week now. The office time is not so bad but I could absolutely live without the commuting.0
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+1rjsterry said:3-5 days a week. I realised rather later than I should have that sitting at the dining room table every day was doing my head in. Has massively improved my state of mind. Collaborative working is also ten times easier face to face.
I did not realise how much I needed the change and the social interaction0 -
I guess everyone's job varies. In my new job I've found it super productive being in 2 days a week, and it's really really helped me out, presumably as I am in a new role, so doing that in everyone's face helps emphasise that.
I think I'm deep into diminishing returns beyond 2-3 days, but the balance is ideal, more efficient for both parts of my job.0 -
TheBigBean said:
Can’t really blame him for having a dig when he gets the chance.0 -
Same here, sort of doing a day a week but avoiding it if possible. The main reason seem to be just to show my face - why anyone would want to see it is a mystery - but my team is split over 3 offices so I only see some of them anyway.Ben6899 said:surrey_commuter said:1 day a week for me and enjoying it so much am thinking of upping to two
I'm the opposite. Been in once/week on two occasions now and it's as sh1te as I remember.0 -
The British standard for protective hair styles?john80 said:
Have you had a look at BS EN 397. I am sure you are an expert in this area.First.Aspect said:
Please, make it stop.john80 said:
It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.imposter2.0 said:
I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.john80 said:
I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.0 -
Jezyboy said:
The British standard for protective hair styles?john80 said:
Have you had a look at BS EN 397. I am sure you are an expert in this area.First.Aspect said:
Please, make it stop.john80 said:
It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.imposter2.0 said:
I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.john80 said:
I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgP_-ftaKWw
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Posted on Another forum and nicked. Says it all. Non- and anti-vaccers, go xxxx yourselves.
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I saw something on LinkedIn lately showing the same, saying it was fairly conclusive and some nobs just commented saying "its not conclusive...what about...."0
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I guess reading isn’t your Forte. My original post had ( pretty much ) in brackets after the bit about being ordered to by scientists. You obviously missed that.surrey_commuter said:
At 13:05 you categorically states that scientists could order the PM to lockdown yet by 15:18 you had u-turned to “pretty much do”Ncovidius said:
They pretty much do at present.Pross said:They say you learn something new every day. Today I have learned that scientists are able to order the Government around.
Why no explanation for the dramatic change of heart in just 2 hours and 13 minutes0 -
kingstonian said:briantrumpet said:
Eh? Must have been a bad night in France....
Blimey. Maybe there’s a load of positive cases that were missed from previous reporting, or someone just had a “fat finger” moment with their keyboard
Not surprisingly, figures for France from the above graphs seem to have been a data-logging anomaly... looks like they are in the process of getting ironed out of the system.
In other news, Germany passes the UK in both cases & deaths, even if the UK is suffering a post half-term spike of infections.
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Does anyone know if there are accurate stats for sub-Saharan Africa?
I read that their death toll is very low, due to a number of potential reasons
- younger population (only 3% over 65)
- poor reporting
- more spread out population
No idea if true / weighting of the above.0 -
They're on a very rapid rise too, not good when they were always a favoured example of the 'look how bad the UK is doing' people.0
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Seem to remember making the case in favour of going into the office a few days a week a several months ago and quite a few people disagreed at the time.rjsterry said:3-5 days a week. I realised rather later than I should have that sitting at the dining room table every day was doing my head in. Has massively improved my state of mind. Collaborative working is also ten times easier face to face.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
and less fat peopleshirley_basso said:Does anyone know if there are accurate stats for sub-Saharan Africa?
I read that their death toll is very low, due to a number of potential reasons
- younger population (only 3% over 65)
- poor reporting
- more spread out population
No idea if true / weighting of the above.
on the downside they have minimal healthcare systems that will easily be underwhelmed
but yes the poor resources, data and reporting means that nobody has any idea0 -
Those figures for France are wrong.briantrumpet said:kingstonian said:briantrumpet said:Eh? Must have been a bad night in France....
Blimey. Maybe there’s a load of positive cases that were missed from previous reporting, or someone just had a “fat finger” moment with their keyboard
Not surprisingly, figures for France from the above graphs seem to have been a data-logging anomaly... looks like they are in the process of getting ironed out of the system.
In other news, Germany passes the UK in both cases & deaths, even if the UK is suffering a post half-term spike of infections.
France has gone though 30,000 new daily cases now, and it's rising.0 -
Dorset_Boy said:
Those figures for France are wrong.briantrumpet said:kingstonian said:briantrumpet said:Eh? Must have been a bad night in France....
Blimey. Maybe there’s a load of positive cases that were missed from previous reporting, or someone just had a “fat finger” moment with their keyboard
Not surprisingly, figures for France from the above graphs seem to have been a data-logging anomaly... looks like they are in the process of getting ironed out of the system.
In other news, Germany passes the UK in both cases & deaths, even if the UK is suffering a post half-term spike of infections.
France has gone though 30,000 new daily cases now, and it's rising.
They're suppose to be the daily rolling 7-day average, to even out the daily reporting inconsistencies, so this isn't necessarily wrong. The previous day had been just 5k, or something like that.0 -
Whilst going to an office toilet today, I noticed that someone had pinned up an anti-vax poster. This is particularly weird as I would be suprised if more than two people used the toilet every day.
Anyway, the poster raised the question about an increase in teenage deaths in boys in the summer 2021 (blaming vaccines). I was bored, so googled it expecting the stats to be made up. It appears to be a common anti-vax message and often overstated. Nonetheless, there were excess deaths in the summer 2021.
The anti-anti-vax response is that there is no evidence this is linked to vaccines. I don't find this a very satisfactory answer. After all, at the start of the pandemic I heard a lot of experts saying there was no evidence masks reduced the spread. No evidence is a very weak argument for something that is not known.
I suspect that there will be another factor such as the increase being statistical insignificant because not many kids die or a reflection of a wild summer post lockdown resulting in lots of accidents. Nonetheless, it would be good if these sort of things were looked into as it is a legitimate question being misused. It wouldn't take long to review a couple of hundred death certificates.
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Were boys getting vaccinated in summer 2021? I thought they had only started getting the vaccine when they went back to school?0
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Jezyboy said:
Were boys getting vaccinated in summer 2021? I thought they had only started getting the vaccine when they went back to school?
No, the 17 & 18yo's were started in the summer term - it was 12-15's when they returned in the autumn.0 -
In England 240,870 under-18s had received a first dose by 1 August. I don't that is relevant, but you asked!Jezyboy said:Were boys getting vaccinated in summer 2021? I thought they had only started getting the vaccine when they went back to school?
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It certainly looks like we've got our tactics right and Europe has ballsed it up again."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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Stevo_666 said:
It certainly looks like we've got our tactics right and Europe has ballsed it up again.
You are obsessed.0 -
Too early to tell.0
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I'd be asking what size the excess deaths are in this group, and what normal fluctuations above and below the average are, year to year. I would imagine there is nothing out of the ordinary.TheBigBean said:
In England 240,870 under-18s had received a first dose by 1 August. I don't that is relevant, but you asked!Jezyboy said:Were boys getting vaccinated in summer 2021? I thought they had only started getting the vaccine when they went back to school?
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Last year deaths were substantially lower than average for teenagers, for obvious reasons. So any comparison year on year should take that into account.0
