The big Coronavirus thread

briantrumpet

webboo said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Hard hats just put people off construction work and can't save you from having a building collapse on top of you anyway, so they should not be compulsory.

That reminds me of watching this video, and wondering about his wearing a helmet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0X9rdJ7hc

To protect against stonefall. He’s on the Eiger which is rather notorious for it.

Yes, I realised that after a few seconds' thought, but without ropes, at speed, a different sort of fall would be more in the forefront of my mind.

Actually, I lie. I'd still be in a warm hotel bar at the bottom, wondering why anyone would do that.

webboo

You are a lot more likely to fall off if a rock hits you on your bare head rather than hitting your helmet.
The climber in the film did subsequently die soloing on Nupse.

john80

imposter2.0 said:

john80 said:

I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.

I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.

It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.

jimmyjams

briantrumpet said:

webboo said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Hard hats just put people off construction work and can't save you from having a building collapse on top of you anyway, so they should not be compulsory.

That reminds me of watching this video, and wondering about his wearing a helmet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0X9rdJ7hc

To protect against stonefall. He’s on the Eiger which is rather notorious for it.

Yes, I realised that after a few seconds' thought, but without ropes, at speed, a different sort of fall would be more in the forefront of my mind.

Actually, I lie. I'd still be in a warm hotel bar at the bottom, wondering why anyone would do that.

About 25+ years I had a climbing friend who (without helmet) was hit by a falling piece of rock, and it made a dip in his skull maybe 5-6 cm diameter, 2-3 cm deep. Obviously he then needed a lot of time in hospital. I don't really know why he didn't suffer a brain haemorrhage or subsequent mental problems, but he didn't.
It didn't put him off climbing, in fact he became a climbing guide (and started wearing a helmet). He was later killed by a summer avalanche on Les Grandes Jorasses, where a helmet wouldn't have helped.

briantrumpet

jimmyjams said:

briantrumpet said:

webboo said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

Hard hats just put people off construction work and can't save you from having a building collapse on top of you anyway, so they should not be compulsory.

That reminds me of watching this video, and wondering about his wearing a helmet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0X9rdJ7hc

To protect against stonefall. He’s on the Eiger which is rather notorious for it.

Yes, I realised that after a few seconds' thought, but without ropes, at speed, a different sort of fall would be more in the forefront of my mind.

Actually, I lie. I'd still be in a warm hotel bar at the bottom, wondering why anyone would do that.

About 25+ years I had a climbing friend who (without helmet) was hit by a falling piece of rock, and it made a dip in his skull maybe 5-6 cm diameter, 2-3 cm deep. Obviously he then needed a lot of time in hospital. I don't really know why he didn't suffer a brain haemorrhage or subsequent mental problems, but he didn't.
It didn't put him off climbing, in fact he became a climbing guide (and started wearing a helmet). He was later killed by a summer avalanche on Les Grandes Jorasses, where a helmet wouldn't have helped.

When I look at some of the limestone rockfaces they climb around Vercors, I'm not surprised that bits drop off onto climbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTS6GApwdUc

First.Aspect

john80 said:

imposter2.0 said:

john80 said:

I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.

I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.

It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.

Please, make it stop.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

john80 said:

imposter2.0 said:

john80 said:

I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.

I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.

It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.

Please, make it stop.

I couldn't find any videos of people doing rock climbing in turbans.

pblakeney

That's my vertigo topped up nicely again.

TheBigBean

Is this the bike helmet debate redone?

imposter2.0

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

john80 said:

imposter2.0 said:

john80 said:

I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.

I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.

It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.

Please, make it stop.

I couldn't find any videos of people doing rock climbing in turbans.

You've never watched 'Carry On Up The Khyber'..??

briantrumpet

imposter2.0 said:

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

john80 said:

imposter2.0 said:

john80 said:

I do find it entertaining that you would not just design a hard hat that works with a turban. Albeit a turban probably works pretty well for most thing that you can drop from height but are not forceful enough to kill a hard hat wearer.

I do find it entertaining that you think a turban offers any kind of vertical impact protection which is in any way remotely equivalent to a hard hat.

It will offer some protection but hard to quantify as a non turban wearer. I think a lot of people over estimate the effectiveness of a hard hat from a brick at four storeys. As will all things it is better to reduce or remove the hazard than rely on a hard hard.

Please, make it stop.

I couldn't find any videos of people doing rock climbing in turbans.

You've never watched 'Carry On Up The Khyber'..??

That was before Elfin Safety went mad...

briantrumpet

Eh? Must have been a bad night in France....

orraloon

joe2019 said:

kingstonian said:

orraloon said:

Why should the vaccinated majority go into more social and economic chaos because of the idiots who refuse to get protected then end up in critical care.

Viz: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvaccinated-my-patience-with-them-is-wearing-thin

Screw them.

Really is a great example of Darwinism, isn’t it.

Incredibly well written piece by an anonymous respiratory doctor.

This time not anonymised.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/23/covid-patients-in-icu-now-almost-all-unvaccinated-says-oxford-scientist

kingstonian

briantrumpet said:

Eh? Must have been a bad night in France....

Blimey. Maybe there’s a load of positive cases that were missed from previous reporting, or someone just had a “fat finger” moment with their keyboard

kingstongraham

NI - work from home where possible again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59382390

Pross

kingstongraham said:

NI - work from home where possible again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59382390

Pretty sure that has always remained the policy in Wales, it is so meaningless though as everyone will have a view on what they consider 'possible'.

kingstongraham

I've still only been into the office twice to pick up stuff/clear out "my" desk to make it ready for hot desking.

pblakeney

I've not been in an office since early March 2020.

rick_chasey

I’m back in 2-3 days a week

surrey_commuter

1 day a week for me and enjoying it so much am thinking of upping to two

rick_chasey

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

I thought you said you were going to do Tuesdays Wednesdays And Thursdays?

rick_chasey

If you want to call me a tw@t just call me one 😝

First.Aspect

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.

rick_chasey

First.Aspect said:

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.

Might be different for your world but what is the point of going into the office is everyone else is at home? Might as well be home.

First.Aspect

rick_chasey said:

First.Aspect said:

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.

Might be different for your world but what is the point of going into the office is everyone else is at home? Might as well be home.

I'm not going into the office.

Ben6899

surrey_commuter said:

1 day a week for me and enjoying it so much am thinking of upping to two

I'm the opposite. Been in once/week on two occasions now and it's as sh1te as I remember.

TheBigBean

rick_chasey said:

First.Aspect said:

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.

Might be different for your world but what is the point of going into the office is everyone else is at home? Might as well be home.

This is pre-covid, but I used to enjoy the peace and multiple screens.

kingstongraham

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First.Aspect

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

First.Aspect said:

rick_chasey said:

To get the most out of it you need to pick days where everyone else is in too.

So for me it’s Tues Thurs

You are making it sound like an Italian covid party.

Might be different for your world but what is the point of going into the office is everyone else is at home? Might as well be home.

This is pre-covid, but I used to enjoy the peace and multiple screens.

And the discipline and lack of distractions from Amazon deliveries, cats, toast, etc.

The talking part for me is the "not work" part of the job.