The big Coronavirus thread

First.Aspect

kingstongraham said:

pblakeney said:

What's up with him that he is meeting all these nurses on a regular basis?
Sorry, it's BJ. Fraternising with the opposite sex on a regular basis is what he does.

My charitable brain says that maybe he has some long covid effects that make it tough for him to wear a mask for long periods. I could understand that. He also wouldn't want to look weak so isn't publicly stating it.

On the other hand, he could just not give two shitz.

Brain fog?

kingstongraham

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

pblakeney said:

What's up with him that he is meeting all these nurses on a regular basis?
Sorry, it's BJ. Fraternising with the opposite sex on a regular basis is what he does.

My charitable brain says that maybe he has some long covid effects that make it tough for him to wear a mask for long periods. I could understand that. He also wouldn't want to look weak so isn't publicly stating it.

On the other hand, he could just not give two shitz.

Brain fog?

Me or him?

Jezyboy

I think he's got to the stage that a lot of people have got to and is fed up with it.

Issue being he's not a lot of people, but the PM.

Pross

I guess he's relied on appealing to idiots to progress his career to date with the struggle against the Establishment line so his strategy now is to show how he is still rebelling against authority by not wearing a mask.

Raab defending him this morning saying he followed the hospital's guidance and wore a mask in those areas where he was supposed to and sticking with that despite a statement from the hospital that their policy is masks must be worn at all times from entering the hospital. They should have got security to throw him out.

Jezyboy

joe2019 said:

First.Aspect said:

joe2019 said:

kingstonian said:

Ncovidius said:

rick_chasey said:

kingstongraham said:

rick_chasey said:

You have to be quite knee deep in conspiratorial thinking to be climate change denier.

The trick is to keep just the right side of the line between "it's not real" and "it's maybe not going to have the impact threatened". Either way you get to complain about being told what you should do, but one is acceptable. It's the same media engagement strategy as a year ago when she was saying that covid didn't look like it was going to kill anyone over the winter.

Yes, there's a lot of "the debate has taken leave of reality" nonsense, as if the existence of climate change as people commonly understand it is up for debate.

Yeahbut, there are more than a few flies in the ‘climate change ointment’. Yellowstone park is a massive one. If that blows ( as lots of geologists think it will ) it’s going to get mighty chilly here on earth, mighty quickly. There is also the problem of the earth’s natural thermal cycle. We are ( and have been for a long time ) sliding towards the next probable ice age. There’s the eternal debate about speed / rate of human influenced warming, vs speed / rate of natural decrease in temperatures because we’re heading into another ice age at present. Human influence will out pace natural cycle, but it’s merely delaying the inevitable.

Not quite sure how a warming planet equals heading towards an ice age, but as an avid skier all I can say is bring it on.

Melting icebergs key to sequence of an ice age...


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/01/210113120656.htm

That article says exactly the opposite of what you think it does. (Assuming you think it says that global warming will induce an ice age).

How do you know what I think?

The 5g chips in the vaccine.

briantrumpet

Pross said:

I guess he's relied on appealing to idiots to progress his career to date with the struggle against the Establishment line so his strategy now is to show how he is still rebelling against authority by not wearing a mask.

Raab defending him this morning saying he followed the hospital's guidance and wore a mask in those areas where he was supposed to and sticking with that despite a statement from the hospital that their policy is masks must be worn at all times from entering the hospital. They should have got security to throw him out.

Raab's really not bright... you might have thought he wouldn't make up stuff that's going to be immediately proved to be a fib.

DeVlaeminck

They no longer care - it works for their leader.

shirley_basso

DeVlaeminck said:

They no longer care - it works for their leader.

This is the worrying bit. Noone even cares what the truth is any more.

kingstonian

Not sure what’s more deadly to the nurses - BJ not wearing a mask or the likelihood of the buttons on his straining shirt flying off.

rjsterry

kingstonian said:

Not sure what’s more deadly to the nurses - BJ not wearing a mask or the likelihood of the buttons on his straining shirt flying off.

And yet at the same time his suits are all too big for him.

kingstongraham

Why didn't he take his tie out of his shirt when he was no longer in a clinical setting?

pblakeney

You may as well ask why didn't he brush his hair.

briantrumpet

We have a B-list 1950's character actor as our Prime Minister, but one who can't be bothered to learn the script.

Ncovidius

A ( double jabbed ) colleague of mine was eating his lunch about ten minutes ago, in the canteen. He said he couldn’t taste anything. We have a stock of LF tests here, just in case. He tested positive, and has been sent home. So much for this all being over then. Fortunately he was no where near me all shift ( different department, different part of a large building ). But that was quite a shocker.

pblakeney

Ncovidius said:

A ( double jabbed ) colleague of mine was eating his lunch about ten minutes ago, in the canteen. He said he couldn’t taste anything. We have a stock of LF tests here, just in case. He tested positive, and has been sent home. So much for this all being over then. Fortunately he was no where near me all shift ( different department, different part of a large building ). But that was quite a shocker.

I am more surprised by people thinking this is over than by people catching it.
By surprised, I mean disappointed.

mully79

Covid will be with us forever which means people are going to keep getting it.
Im doubtful governmemt will really get involved again.

surrey_commuter

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

briantrumpet

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

The evidence from other countries is that after all the noise, most people just go and get jabbed.

pblakeney

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

Nice in theory, hard to implement in reality.
Suspicion is that there will be a lot of exemptions, or staff shortages.
We will see how many are willing to quit out of principle. I suspect fewer than feared.

DeVlaeminck

Most get jabbed but it might put some people off the career in the first place. Possibly more so with jobs that require fewer qualifications and pay less - carers, cleaners etc - simply because more of those workers get into those jobs because it's a job rather than as a vocation.

rick_chasey

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

If you don’t want the vaccine healthcare is not the right career for you.

rjsterry

pblakeney said:

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

Nice in theory, hard to implement in reality.
Suspicion is that there will be a lot of exemptions, or staff shortages.
We will see how many are willing to quit out of principle. I suspect fewer than feared.

I had to get Hep and BCG jabs just to work as ward domestic in my student holidays (late '90s). I don't recall being given the option.

pblakeney

rjsterry said:

pblakeney said:

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

Nice in theory, hard to implement in reality.
Suspicion is that there will be a lot of exemptions, or staff shortages.
We will see how many are willing to quit out of principle. I suspect fewer than feared.

I had to get Hep and BCG jabs just to work as ward domestic in my student holidays (late '90s). I don't recall being given the option.

Covid is seen as different for some reason. Probably the timescale of development.

rick_chasey

Everyone’s been jabbed dozens of times as a child.

Whole thing is moronic and not enough is being done to sort it out.

I increasingly think there is no excuse. Get it done or lose access to public spaces.

Ben6899

briantrumpet said:

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

The evidence from other countries is that after all the noise, most people just go and get jabbed.

Yeh people like to make a lot of noise for Twitter likes, or for 15mins with Phil and Holly on ITV breakfast TV. Then they kowtow and do the right thing.

Ben6899

Ncovidius said:

A ( double jabbed ) colleague of mine was eating his lunch about ten minutes ago, in the canteen. He said he couldn’t taste anything. We have a stock of LF tests here, just in case. He tested positive, and has been sent home. So much for this all being over then. Fortunately he was no where near me all shift ( different department, different part of a large building ). But that was quite a shocker.

Mate, your posts are sometimes like all the worst bits of Twitter rolled into one, without me even actively following those accounts.

So thanks for that.

Ben6899

rjsterry said:

pblakeney said:

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

Nice in theory, hard to implement in reality.
Suspicion is that there will be a lot of exemptions, or staff shortages.
We will see how many are willing to quit out of principle. I suspect fewer than feared.

I had to get Hep and BCG jabs just to work as ward domestic in my student holidays (late '90s). I don't recall being given the option.

There are a handful of legal things that I cannot take/consume because of my job. Again, no choice in the matter, but not being able to eat my favourite type of cake* is a small sacrifice.

*no, not that cake

kingstongraham

This is good from Javid.

https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1458342260769239041?t=6H2wSrsRF6HKc_wZ3uHwmw&s=19

Also, apparently Johnson had come out from doing his broadcast interviews and had forgotten to put his mask back on. Was reminded shortly after that he was supposed to be wearing a mask in all parts of the hospital. So many lies for something so small.

rjsterry

Ben6899 said:

rjsterry said:

pblakeney said:

surrey_commuter said:

what do we think about compulsory jabs for NHS staff? on the face of it it seems obvious but the downside is that we could end up with significantly worse staff shortages

Nice in theory, hard to implement in reality.
Suspicion is that there will be a lot of exemptions, or staff shortages.
We will see how many are willing to quit out of principle. I suspect fewer than feared.

I had to get Hep and BCG jabs just to work as ward domestic in my student holidays (late '90s). I don't recall being given the option.

There are a handful of legal things that I cannot take/consume because of my job. Again, no choice in the matter, but not being able to eat my favourite type of cake* is a small sacrifice.

*no, not that cake

"... I'm afraid millionaire's shortbread is strictly prohibited at all times on the premises."

shirley_basso

Good on her for posting it, to be fair.

Can't argue with Sajid.