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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,574
    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,331
    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
    I'm not suggesting that it can.
    It's the only logic I can see behind the thinking. Flawed, but what else is there?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
    I'm not suggesting that it can.
    It's the only logic I can see behind the thinking. Flawed, but what else is there?
    "live with it"
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Agree it's poor going into the office if he doesn't have to. At the same time we couldn't go on with compulsory 10 day isolation as it is too disruptive - I had two within a month and at no point did I catch Covid - not everyone can afford to isolate repeatedly.

    I guess the answer is some half way position where people in contact with positive people avoid contact where they reasonably can and test regularly .
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Agree it's poor going into the office if he doesn't have to. At the same time we couldn't go on with compulsory 10 day isolation as it is too disruptive - I had two within a month and at no point did I catch Covid - not everyone can afford to isolate repeatedly.

    I guess the answer is some half way position where people in contact with positive people avoid contact where they reasonably can and test regularly .

    I think that's right - it's surely bad for business to infect your staff.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,331
    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
    I'm not suggesting that it can.
    It's the only logic I can see behind the thinking. Flawed, but what else is there?
    "live with it"
    Your choice, and the current government giulelines. This may change once schools have been back for a couple of weeks. I'll stay wfh and socially distant.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    pblakeney said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
    I'm not suggesting that it can.
    It's the only logic I can see behind the thinking. Flawed, but what else is there?
    "live with it"
    Your choice, and the current government giulelines. This may change once schools have been back for a couple of weeks. I'll stay wfh and socially distant.
    I'm not particularly in support of it as a strategy.

    I think the current variant would be extremely challenging to control with any kind of measures. I am concerned that the level of protection given by the vaccine isn't quite what one would hope for.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,331
    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Ncovidius said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss' daughter caught rona at that Boardmaster's festival - his wife who got the jabs very early on has now got it and is bedridden with it and he's coming into the office tomorrow.

    *facepalm*

    I thought you still have to isolate if you’ve been in direct / close contact with a confirmed positive case.
    Nope. If you're fully vaccinated, you need to take a pcr test if you have symptoms, otherwise you are free to go infect your workplace.
    It is an effective method to reach herd immunity.
    Not a good method, but an effective one.
    This is not a disease where herd immunity can be reached.
    I'm not suggesting that it can.
    It's the only logic I can see behind the thinking. Flawed, but what else is there?
    "live with it"
    Your choice, and the current government giulelines. This may change once schools have been back for a couple of weeks. I'll stay wfh and socially distant.
    I'm not particularly in support of it as a strategy.

    I think the current variant would be extremely challenging to control with any kind of measures. I am concerned that the level of protection given by the vaccine isn't quite what one would hope for.
    If it keeps you out of hospital then that is a success.
    Doesn't mean people should be socialising/working together while potentially carrying.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    To clarify, it's "learning to live with it" that I'm not particularly sure of as a strategy.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    Jezyboy said:

    To clarify, it's "learning to live with it" that I'm not particularly sure of as a strategy.

    I'm happy with it as a strategy - but it seems to be used to mean "learning nothing and carrying on as before".

    Learning to live with it would include learning not to go to the office unnecessarily when your whole family is infected.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821
    kingstongraham said:

    Jezyboy said:

    To clarify, it's "learning to live with it" that I'm not particularly sure of as a strategy.

    I'm happy with it as a strategy - but it seems to be used to mean "learning nothing and carrying on as before".

    Learning to live with it would include learning not to go to the office unnecessarily when your whole family is infected.
    I think there are people out there that believe learning to live with it means completely ignoring it. They seem incapable of learning anything.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I am not being unreasonable here for thinking that's a sh!tty move, right?
    _
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821
    rick_chasey said:

    I am not being unreasonable here for thinking that's a sh!tty move, right?

    You are quite capable of being unreasonable, but not in this case. He's an idiot.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    At least he's told people.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    kingstongraham said:

    At least he's told people.

    Hah, that's true. I remember meeting some people one evening pre covid and a woman saying she'd just come from dealing with 2 of her kids who both had a vomiting bug.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    kingstongraham said:

    Jezyboy said:

    To clarify, it's "learning to live with it" that I'm not particularly sure of as a strategy.

    I'm happy with it as a strategy - but it seems to be used to mean "learning nothing and carrying on as before".

    Learning to live with it would include learning not to go to the office unnecessarily when your whole family is infected.
    Honestly, if the only changes are masking up occasionally and staying home once in a blue moon, its pretty easy to live the virus.

    The current reality is that with so much virus about it is quite difficult to avoid being pinged/coming into reasonably close contact with someone who has got busted.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,567
    rick_chasey said:

    I am not being unreasonable here for thinking that's a sh!tty move, right?

    Does feel pretty stupid (and irresponsible, especially if it's bad enough to keep his OH in bed) to risk infecting your workforce. It took me 5 days to test positive after my son did, and then a further couple of days for the wife to test positive.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,921
    I hadn't previously heard of boardmasters festival despite seemingly every teenager going. Definite sign of being old.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    The daughter of my wife's colleague is currently in ICU with what's suspected to be post Covid complications.

    She's 13.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Hopefully the 12+ cohort will be offered vaccines soon
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,921
    tailwindhome said:

    Hopefully the 12+ cohort will be offered vaccines soon

    Has anyone argued it is in the interests of 12 year olds? Most of the arguments seem to be about the benefits for society.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,816
    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Hopefully the 12+ cohort will be offered vaccines soon

    Has anyone argued it is in the interests of 12 year olds? Most of the arguments seem to be about the benefits for society.
    I guess if you're 12 it's in your interests for your parents not to get Covid.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,181
    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Hopefully the 12+ cohort will be offered vaccines soon

    Has anyone argued it is in the interests of 12 year olds? Most of the arguments seem to be about the benefits for society.
    It is right on the line. Depends on long term non fatal Covid effects, which aren't yet clear. That's why some countries' advisers say yes, others no.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    Do you people ever talk about anything other than work!!!!

    I'm sure hedgehogs have to work but don't bleat on about it 24 hours a day.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,331
    womack said:

    Do you people ever talk about anything other than work!!!!

    I'm sure hedgehogs have to work but don't bleat on about it 24 hours a day.

    Maybe they do. I don't speak hedgehog.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,181
    mrb123 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Hopefully the 12+ cohort will be offered vaccines soon

    Has anyone argued it is in the interests of 12 year olds? Most of the arguments seem to be about the benefits for society.
    I guess if you're 12 it's in your interests for your parents not to get Covid.
    Already recommended for 12-15s living with vulnerable people.

    But the crux of it is that your argument is potentially unethical, if the risk to the 12 year old themselves is lower than the risk of taking the vaccine. Which is is, if you measure risk of death.

    What may tip the balance is evidence of longer term covid effects. Which requires there to be more covid for longer in order to assess.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,331
    Double jabbed 30s guy in our office had a positive test then hospitalised last night.
    Released this morning. No further details but logical conclusion is respiratory issues.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    rick_chasey said:

    Sort of.

    Either way, I think it's a bit of a d!ck move to go into the office when 2/3rds of your home are confirmed positive covid cases *right now*.

    Have you discussed with your union rep?
    H&S rep?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited September 2021
    darkhairedlord said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Sort of.

    Either way, I think it's a bit of a d!ck move to go into the office when 2/3rds of your home are confirmed positive covid cases *right now*.

    Have you discussed with your union rep?
    H&S rep?
    lol. Where do you think I work. I have never worked in a firm with any of that.
    _
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    darkhairedlord said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Sort of.

    Either way, I think it's a bit of a d!ck move to go into the office when 2/3rds of your home are confirmed positive covid cases *right now*.

    Have you discussed with your union rep?
    H&S rep?
    lol. Where do you think I work.
    The 1970s?

    I would have loved to take Bob Crowe into an HR meeting with me

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