So who now for the Yellow Jersey ?

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    RichN95 wrote:
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge

    And of the rest (Porte, Bardet et al), they have 3 GC podiums between them from 51 completed GTs, which doesn't exactly scream GC contender to me, especially as Porte, Fuglsang, Kruiswijk et al are all well into their 30s. Only Adam Yates is still young'ish, and it's hard to see him beating Thomas or Bernal. Froome must be kicking himself as he can't have had a better chance of getting a 5th Tour than this.
  • Wayne Plunger
    Wayne Plunger Posts: 444
    phreak wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge

    Froome must be kicking himself as he can't have had a better chance of getting a 5th Tour than this.

    Would that be physically possible with a broken leg?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95 wrote:
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge

    Surely got to be an incentive for the also rans. Someone has to win it.

    I suppose G stands out still . But as mentioned he had everyone pinned tactically with froome last year and besides seemed to ride to Paris in a state of grace . Is he the same rider this year and can he do this with bernal doing the 1 2 for him. I am sure the others will try and test that.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Inrrng just tweeted (from Dutch media) that as Dumoulin was supposed to depart for high altitude camp, said he "am I ready for this?"", stopped and turned around.

    Doesn't sound hopeful.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    mididoctors wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge

    Surely got to be an incentive for the also rans. Someone has to win it.

    I suppose G stands out still . But as mentioned he had everyone pinned tactically with froome last year and besides seemed to ride to Paris in a state of grace . Is he the same rider this year and can he do this with bernal doing the 1 2 for him. I am sure the others will try and test that.

    On form though you'd put Poels on a par with the rest, let alone Bernal.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    phreak wrote:
    On form though you'd put Poels on a par with the rest, let alone Bernal.
    Poels is very inconsistent though.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95 wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    On form though you'd put Poels on a par with the rest, let alone Bernal.
    Poels is very inconsistent though.

    Poels is no tour winner.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    mididoctors wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Grand Tour winners this July

    Froome: Injured & Absent
    Dumoulin: Injured, presence uncertain
    Yates: Absent
    Quintana: Present, dubious form
    Nibali: Present, claiming not to riding for GC
    Carapaz: Absent
    Aru: Returning after injury
    Thomas: Bookies' favourite

    So while we are in an era with quite a lot of GC champions, few are looking ready to challenge

    Surely got to be an incentive for the also rans. Someone has to win it.

    I suppose G stands out still . But as mentioned he had everyone pinned tactically with froome last year and besides seemed to ride to Paris in a state of grace . Is he the same rider this year and can he do this with bernal doing the 1 2 for him. I am sure the others will try and test that.

    I'd love to see someone not amongst the usual suspects to win it, Kruiswijk winning would please me greatly. How strong will Jumbo be this year?

    Part of me would also be entertained by a French rider winning it, if only so everyone can tell the French 'he only won because Froome wasn't there' :D
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    mididoctors wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    On form though you'd put Poels on a par with the rest, let alone Bernal.
    Poels is very inconsistent though.

    Poels is no tour winner.

    Doesn't want to be team leader in a GT, does he?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    iainf72 wrote:
    Inrrng just tweeted (from Dutch media) that as Dumoulin was supposed to depart for high altitude camp, said he "am I ready for this?"", stopped and turned around.

    Doesn't sound hopeful.
    Bu99er.

    Not surprising thou
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    RichN95 wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    On form though you'd put Poels on a par with the rest, let alone Bernal.
    Poels is very inconsistent though.

    Maybe, but Ineos' 3rd GC rider still put over a minute into many of the contenders for the Tour. That's not great however you shake things, especially as he can probably afford to lose time on the flat stages to be in his best shape for the climbs, whereas the genuine contenders can't.
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    Exactly. All (most of) the contenders were at the Dauphine, and the Sky mountain domestique made them look like chumps.

    I suspect it's going to be a bit like the 84 tour - with Thomas playing the Fignon role - a one time winner written off as lucky the previous year, but coming in with a superbly strong team and a future winner (Bernal as Lemond) to help him.

    Haven't worked out who's going to play the Hinault role of old dog a bit past his best. Nibali perhaps?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    TimothyW wrote:
    Exactly. All (most of) the contenders were at the Dauphine, and the Sky mountain domestique made them look like chumps.

    I suspect it's going to be a bit like the 84 tour - with Thomas playing the Fignon role - a one time winner written off as lucky the previous year, but coming in with a superbly strong team and a future winner (Bernal as Lemond) to help him.

    Haven't worked out who's going to play the Hinault role of old dog a bit past his best. Nibali perhaps?

    Nibali needs Ineos to ride for GC well if he is going to clip off for stages and the polka dot. His nightmare is G falling off and bernal not delivering. He would then find a load of Ineos superdomestiques nicking all his stages....
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Scratch Tomas. He just bust a collarbone. :(
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
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    INRG wrote:
    Crash! Gerraint Thomas

    Sooner or later one has to lol...

    Collarbones have long since been a symbol of Masonic Lodges you know...

    Edit - from this footage he doesn't look too broken - https://twitter.com/cyclingreporter/sta ... 05633?s=09
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Well, of course, two crashing like this can't possibly be a coincidence... ;-)
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    15 minutes or so later and the prognosis may not be so bad.
    Race over, but patched up, trackie on and off for checks.
    Could be fine for the Tour but rather under raced.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    larkim wrote:
    Well, of course, two crashing like this can't possibly be a coincidence... ;-)

    Copied over from the race thread
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    larkim wrote:
    Well, of course, two crashing like this can't possibly be a coincidence... ;-)

    Don't forget Bernal as well.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Froome's crash was a silent ban, but now the UCI have imposed a General Ban on Ineos. Want proof? Well usually just saying 'Armstrong!' is enough but if you want more - What's an anagram of GENERAL BAN? It's all there sheeple, openj your eyes.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    There was absolutely no pictures of the actual crash, just the aftermath.
    Need I say more?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    We're supposed to believe that two riders from the same team have crashed in two different races in two different countries less than a week apart.

    C'mon.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Ineos's Vuelta leader has begun training

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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    what gear was he in and how does that link into to bible, we need to know the proper facts here
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Oh ffs. Ratcliffe must be well chuffed
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Anyone calling it the Curse of Ineos yet? If not I'm coining it.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Pross wrote:
    Anyone calling it the Curse of Ineos yet? If not I'm coining it.

    Sounds like an Indiana Jones movie.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
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  • joey54321
    joey54321 Posts: 1,297
    Is there any sort of update? The article I read seemed to imply he was taking to hospital more as a precaution.

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