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So who now for the Yellow Jersey ?

shipleyshipley Posts: 551
edited July 2019 in Pro race
So now that Mr Froome has fallen off his bike again, this time breaking a femur, who’s gonna take the Tour ?

Can Ineos rearrange the plan or is it now nice and open ?
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  • joey54321joey54321 Posts: 1,297
    They ride for G. simple. Until G falls off.
  • joe_totale-2joe_totale-2 Posts: 889
    Even without Froome the Ineos team will still be the strongest out there, Thomas or Bernal for me with Thomas as favourite as you'd imagine he'd be team leader.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    With Bernal end Thomas I can’t see there’s much to rearrange, just another dom to find.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 13,981
    Geraint: no question.
    Checked PCS they have 8 already penciled in without Froome and could still add Moscon to the list.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Quintana? :lol:

    I bet Thomas is regretting all those media engagements now assuming he’d probably play second fiddle to Froome. Not that I think he’ll arrive massively undercooked but it will have definitely made it harder than it could’ve been.

    You would assume it will all be on the line for Thomas but it’ll be interesting at the TdS to see what kind of shape Bernal is in and how that plays out.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,889
    Dumoulin looks like he'll be in form come July
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  • AlejandrosdogAlejandrosdog Posts: 2,007
    come on Alejandro NOW is the winter of their dispair
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 640
    I'll say thomas barring illness or injury but Tom is going to want it as well but Geraint has had a taste of the big life and it seems to suit him. Wiggins will be on the phone whispering good things
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 13,981
    RichN95 wrote:
    Dumoulin looks like he'll be in form come July

    Came up in conversation over the weekend with an associate.
    Not sure. I think the jury is still out.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • shipleyshipley Posts: 551
    Come come chaps, none of the youth ? Not Wout Van Aert, Yates, Alaphilippe or Fuglsang (yes I know he’s 34 :D ) ?
  • Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?
  • FocusZingFocusZing Posts: 4,416
    Damn, blast, blast and damn! 'goes to another thread for said information...'
  • shipleyshipley Posts: 551
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?

    I agree, I really like the guy but in my opinion last year was his ‘Roche / Wiggins’ year and it won’t be repeated.

    I’m hoping for a refreshingly open tour (for once)
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 13,981
    shipley wrote:
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?

    I agree, I really like the guy but in my opinion last year was his ‘Roche / Wiggins’ year and it won’t be repeated.

    I’m hoping for a refreshingly open tour (for once)

    Yer, like others were wishing for a refreshingly open Giro this year, without him and Bernal around and look how that stinker turned out.
    As for GT: you can both check his weight out on the weekend. :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?
    This year 3rd in Romandie, last year 32nd. I think he and the team know what they’re doing and we’ll all know better after Swiss.
  • AlejandrosdogAlejandrosdog Posts: 2,007
    Are there any French contenders?
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,464
    Are there any French contenders?

    :lol:
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 13,981
    Are there any French contenders?

    Well, since today's ITT is very similar to the Pau ITT, it's worth taking a look at how potential contenders fared.

    Rnk.
    7 Alaphilippe Julian 0:59
    12 Pinot Thibaut 1:21
    27 Bardet Romain 1:52
    30 Molard Rudy 2:04
    71 Martin Guillaume 3:16
    95 Barguil Warren 3:52

    Still, what they lack in TT ability, they make up for in panache. :P
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 2,018
    joey54321 wrote:
    They ride for G. simple. Until G falls off.

    Is this some sort of screwball bodyswap comedy gone wrong?

    (in all seriousness, hopefully Froome recovers from this as quickly as possible)
    @canocola

    aka the poster formerly known as underlayunderlay
  • AlejandrosdogAlejandrosdog Posts: 2,007
    Are there any French contenders?

    Well, since today's ITT is very similar to the Pau ITT, it's worth taking a look at how potential contenders fared.

    Rnk.
    7 Alaphilippe Julian 0:59
    12 Pinot Thibaut 1:21
    27 Bardet Romain 1:52
    30 Molard Rudy 2:04
    71 Martin Guillaume 3:16
    95 Barguil Warren 3:52

    Still, what they lack in TT ability, they make up for in panache. :P

    hmmmm not exactly Gaelic contenders there
  • redvisionredvision Posts: 2,508
    I think it is a real shame about Froome as the tour line up was looking like being one of the best and most exciting for years imo.

    Wish him a speedy recovery and really hope we get to see him in the tour again.

    As for the yellow jersey now, I have always been a big fan of G but I am slightly concerned by DB changing tune yesterday, from the strongest of the two of them would lead the team, to saying Froome was the chosen one. This to me suggests that Froome was in very good condition and perhaps G hasn't rediscovered his fitness or form, at least not compared to CF.

    I think Tom Dumoulin or Bernal (despite his age) will be the main two now, although I hope G is up with them.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    When will the French learn that TTS are important? Bardet isn’t helped by having different bike supplier every year.
  • inseine wrote:
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?
    I think he and the team know what they’re doing.

    Yes no doubt!! I'm sure he'll arrive perfectly prepared. Just wondering what you are actually basing it on given the evidence??
  • ShutupJensShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    inseine wrote:
    Bardet isn’t helped by having different bike supplier every year.

    Having a different bike every year sort of suggests that the bike isn't the problem
  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    inseine wrote:
    When will the French learn that TTS are important? Bardet isn’t helped by having different bike supplier every year.

    I think someone said it's not about the bike...
  • inseine wrote:
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?
    I think he and the team know what they’re doing.

    Yes no doubt!! I'm sure he'll arrive perfectly prepared. Just wondering what you are actually basing it on given the evidence??

    Cardiff lad, always prepared.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    ShutupJens wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Bardet isn’t helped by having different bike supplier every year.

    Having a different bike every year sort of suggests that the bike isn't the problem
    Or goes towards the fact that he’s consistently poor it TTs. He hadnt even got his new TT bike by mid spring, he probably will hardly have ridden it let alone been to the wind tunnel.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,503 Lives Here
    RichN95 wrote:
    Dumoulin looks like he'll be in form come July

    That TT of his wasn’t great..
  • ProssPross Posts: 22,093
    Quite amazing Thomas touted as a natural to win - when he looked overweight earlier in the year and has done 4 stage races this year with GC: 44, dnf , 40 and 3rd and less than 3k of racing this season.

    What you basing it on?

    Well having seen him close up last Saturday he's not carrying an ounce of spare baggage now and is apparently down at 68kg as someone else on here can verify having spoken to him.

    As for form I guess we'll know in a week but it's hardly a surprise that people are tipping him as the new favourite when he's defending champion is it, especially with Dumoulin recovering from injury and many of the other likely contenders initially dodging the Tour and opting to ride the Giro? Whether he can do it with the pressure of being official team leader is the biggest question.

    Pinot has been looking good though as has Yates. Should make for a good race.
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 640
    redvision wrote:
    I think it is a real shame about Froome as the tour line up was looking like being one of the best and most exciting for years imo.

    Wish him a speedy recovery and really hope we get to see him in the tour again.

    As for the yellow jersey now, I have always been a big fan of G but I am slightly concerned by DB changing tune yesterday, from the strongest of the two of them would lead the team, to saying Froome was the chosen one. This to me suggests that Froome was in very good condition and perhaps G hasn't rediscovered his fitness or form, at least not compared to CF.

    I think Tom Dumoulin or Bernal (despite his age) will be the main two now, although I hope G is up with them.

    if you listen to Bespoke (BBC podcast), Rob Hayles will occasionally say that Brailsford uses this rivalry to the teams advantage. He fuels a competitive nature in the leaders.
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