Paris Nice 2017 spoilers

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?
    He's a decent climber when he needs to be. I know it's a long time ago, but he almost won a Tour stage up Ventoux.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    andyp wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    The same Tony Martin who's Paris-Nice win was based on winning on a similar uphill time trial?
    This is true, but i think it's a bit harder today and the course is a lot shorter (less flat?).
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,652
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?
    He's a decent climber when he needs to be. I know it's a long time ago, but he almost won a Tour stage up Ventoux.


    In a break that was soemthing like 20 mins off the front? Against Juan Manuel Gárate?
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?
    He's a decent climber when he needs to be. I know it's a long time ago, but he almost won a Tour stage up Ventoux.


    In a break that was soemthing like 20 mins off the front? Against Juan Manuel Gárate?
    Sure. But he was still the second best climber in that break. He's not Bert Grabsch.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,652
    Yeah alright and I'm second toughest in the infants.

    He's a tier 3 climber when he wants to be.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Yeah alright and I'm second toughest in the infants.

    He's a tier 3 climber when he wants to be.
    And that may be enough for today
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,532
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    I saw 14 km time trial and dismissed him on that basis.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    andyp wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    The same Tony Martin who's Paris-Nice win was based on winning on a similar uphill time trial?

    And who's currently sitting in 7th at +29s... Yeah that one.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    The same Tony Martin who's Paris-Nice win was based on winning on a similar uphill time trial?

    And who's currently sitting in 7th at +29s... Yeah that one.
    I picked him and I'll confess the climb looked quite a bit smaller on the profile and I didn't look carefully enough
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    The same Tony Martin who's Paris-Nice win was based on winning on a similar uphill time trial?

    And who's currently sitting in 7th at +29s... Yeah that one.
    I picked him and I'll confess the climb looked quite a bit smaller on the profile and I didn't look carefully enough

    From Inrng:

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    Left hand one from today, right hand from the last time it was used...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Left hand one from today, right hand from the last time it was used...
    Oh, I didn't get as far as looking at the actual climb. Just a quick glance at the whole stage.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    Contador in the hot seat... A second chance for my PTP?
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,605
    Bladdy hell Porte - my PTP sucks again
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    Gorka Izaguirre one second shy of Contador - might be in Yellow - Alaphillipe could be about to unseat Contador, as he was 6s inside Izaguirre at the first time check.

    I'm not usually supporting Contador, but since there's valuable PTP points at stake...

    Gallopin just came in less than a second down on Contador.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,605
    Blimey....
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    Gweeds wrote:
    Blimey....

    Some ride from Alaphillippe!!
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    1 Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) Quick-Step Floors 00:21:39
    2 Alberto Contador (Spa) Trek-Segafredo 00:21:58
    3 Tony Gallopin (Fra) Lotto Soudal 00:21:59
    4 Gorka Izaguirre (Spa) Movistar 00:21:59
    5 Ilnur Zakarin (Rus) Katusha 00:22:12
    6 David De La Cruz (Spa) Quick-Step Floors 00:22:24
    7 Michael Matthews (Aus) Sunweb 00:22:26
    8 Sergio Henao (Col) Team Sky 00:22:27
    9 Jon Izaguirre (Spa) Bahrain-Merida 00:22:28
    10 Richie Porte (Aus) BMC 00:22:29
  • hanshotfirst
    hanshotfirst Posts: 397
    My Man!!

    (Having a pure shocker on PTP by the way)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,652
    So we're agreed Tony Martin's not a good shout for this stage?
    _
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    I assume that for today's PTP a lot of people have just seen "time trial = Tony Martin" without looking at the final climb?

    The same Tony Martin who's Paris-Nice win was based on winning on a similar uphill time trial?

    And who's currently sitting in 7th at +29s... Yeah that one.
    I picked him and I'll confess the climb looked quite a bit smaller on the profile and I didn't look carefully enough



    Its not small, Rich, its just very far away :wink:
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    So we're agreed Tony Martin's not a good shout for this stage?


    :D
  • hanshotfirst
    hanshotfirst Posts: 397
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    So we're agreed Tony Martin's not a good shout for this stage?

    Could we not have had this discussion yesterday BEFORE I picked him for PTP? sake! :roll:
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Impressed by Alaphilippe...

    Glad Contador delivered as my PTP pick. Shame stage wins get you only a few points...
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Whoop! Whoop!
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    https://twitter.com/sebpiquet/status/839412031275032578

    C6YwyJlWQAAKk5d.jpg

    That's a lot of wine...
  • Crampeur
    Crampeur Posts: 1,065
    bobmcstuff wrote:


    C6YwyJlWQAAKk5d.jpg

    That's a lot of wine...

    I'm a lot less confident in Alaphilippe's ability to hold on to the overall now you've posted that.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,532
    I picked the wrong Izaguirre. Easy mistake.
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Presumably he doesn't have to drink it before the next stage. Nice little extra though
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    1(2)ALAPHILIPPE Julian Quick-Step Floors 12:36:27
    2(5)GALLOPIN Tony Lotto Soudal 0:33
    3(11)IZAGIRRE Gorka Movistar Team 0:47
    4(7)HENAO Sergio Luis Team Sky 1:05
    5(9)MARTIN Daniel Quick-Step Floors 1:20
    6(4)GILBERT Philippe Quick-Step Floors 1:24
    7(14)ZAKARIN IlnurTeam Katusha - Alpecin 1:28
    8(21)CONTADOR Alberto Trek - Segafredo 1:31

    So, 6 out of the top 8 with a genuine chance of winning this?

    If the top 5 is tight after Saturday then stage 8 could be a brilliantly attacking day.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,449
    Milton50 wrote:
    1(2)ALAPHILIPPE Julian Quick-Step Floors 12:36:27
    2(5)GALLOPIN Tony Lotto Soudal 0:33
    3(11)IZAGIRRE Gorka Movistar Team 0:47
    4(7)HENAO Sergio Luis Team Sky 1:05
    5(9)MARTIN Daniel Quick-Step Floors 1:20
    6(4)GILBERT Philippe Quick-Step Floors 1:24
    7(14)ZAKARIN IlnurTeam Katusha - Alpecin 1:28
    8(21)CONTADOR Alberto Trek - Segafredo 1:31

    So, 6 out of the top 8 with a genuine chance of winning this?

    If the top 5 is tight after Saturday then stage 8 could be a brilliantly attacking day.

    Which two of those eight are you discounting? I'd be surprised if Gilbert did well on the Couillolle, but the rest are all in with a chance.

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