Show us your Supersix Evo's

gaffer_slow

i get confused a little. about many things but the SS is one of them.

I often see 2013 Evo's listed at very low weights and prices, such as the Red racing 2014/2015 editions.

It would see that these are Evo (non hi mod) though, perhaps the original RRP prices (on Pauls) is what confuses me.

Still tempting as the internal rear brake routing on some of the older Evos is a nice touch.

For some reason i though i had read that the 105 Evos (perhaps the others as well) had an alloy steerer (hybrid fork)., there is a slight difference in the specs on cdale.com - that makes me think it *might* be -- particularly that HM and CAAD12 models state "full carbon" for the fork but the Evos dont.

Left = HM Ultegra .....Centre CAAD12 Ultegra .... Right 105 Evo

this would suggest that the 105 Evo *might* have an alloy/hybrid steerer ...... does it not have an integrated crown race
(like the HM and CAAD)?



Def have my eye on a hi mod frameset though : )

warrior4life

I've just pulled the trigger on the 2013 hi mod SRAM red from Pauls.
It was the current hi mod frame until last year.
Word on the street is team Cannondale hugely prefer it to the new hi mod as well.
I was waiting in the Caad12 but made a last minute change.

gaffer_slow

warrior4life wrote:

I've just pulled the trigger on the 2013 hi mod SRAM red from Pauls.
It was the current hi mod frame until last year.
Word on the street is team Cannondale hugely prefer it to the new hi mod as well.
I was waiting in the Caad12 but made a last minute change.

excellent. that was tempting me as well. took forward to real life pictures.

are you going to make any changes?

warrior4life

gaffer_slow wrote:

warrior4life wrote:

I've just pulled the trigger on the 2013 hi mod SRAM red from Pauls.
It was the current hi mod frame until last year.
Word on the street is team Cannondale hugely prefer it to the new hi mod as well.
I was waiting in the Caad12 but made a last minute change.

excellent. that was tempting me as well. took forward to real life pictures.

are you going to make any changes?

I have some 11 speed SRAM red levers so I'm converting it to 11 speed. Cassette, chain and shifters is all you need.
I'll sell the wheels on as they're tubs and get something more usable, the bars are quite heavy so I'll be putting Deda Newton classics on the bike and a carbon pro logo Nago saddle.
Hoping for a sub 6.5kg build with pedals and cages.
I messaged Pauls and they said they had 10 bikes left in a large, enough to last a couple of weeks tops.

MisterMuncher

gaffer_slow wrote:

i get confused a little. about many things but the SS is one of them.

I often see 2013 Evo's listed at very low weights and prices, such as the Red racing 2014/2015 editions.

It would see that these are Evo (non hi mod) though, perhaps the original RRP prices (on Pauls) is what confuses me.

Still tempting as the internal rear brake routing on some of the older Evos is a nice touch.

For some reason i though i had read that the 105 Evos (perhaps the others as well) had an alloy steerer (hybrid fork)., there is a slight difference in the specs on cdale.com - that makes me think it *might* be -- particularly that HM and CAAD12 models state "full carbon" for the fork but the Evos dont.

Left = HM Ultegra .....Centre CAAD12 Ultegra .... Right 105 Evo

this would suggest that the 105 Evo *might* have an alloy/hybrid steerer ...... does it not have an integrated crown race
(like the HM and CAAD)?



Def have my eye on a hi mod frameset though : )

All SuperSixes, be they HiMod, Evo or not, have full carbon forks. The SS Tiagra definitely had a full CF fork, for one thing. Pre 2016 Hi-mod, and all non hi-mod SS take a steel crown race. The moulded race only features on the 2016 HM fork. 2016 Non Hi-Mod is the same frame as 2015 and previous, the updates (BB30A, 25.4mm post, aero shaping) only apply to the HM.

part time waster

I am tempted by a 2013 Hi.mod red , does it come as 10 or 11 speed SRAM red ?
I tried to google the spec but can't find the exact info , At Paul's cycles I assume the chain sets are standard 39.53 rings and not a form of compact ?
Thanks . Another bike (6) I probably don't need !

gaffer_slow

hi mod owners.

how does the internal rear brake routing work?

Is it a liner or full outer?

How do you go about changing the inner / liner / outer?

bendertherobot

Slight bit of grinding when sticking the hammer down. So, decided to tighten the usual things. Started with chainring bolts. Two tightened but in the lurching motion rather than tightening. Backed off doing them any tighter, did a third, puff of smoke and snapped it. Took one off my XLS to make do for now but, here's the weird thing.

The XLS one is a hex on each side. The FSA ones are hex one side and slot the other side. No weirdness there. Save that one that was already there is a hex and hex. As if that one had been wrongly installed or already replaced?

MikeBrew

Despite not being terribly up to speed on all things occult - witches and such - it does sound to me as though someone has put a hex on it !

bendertherobot

Do you think the hex I've put on it will cancel out the other one?

(Anyone recommend replacement bolts?

MisterMuncher

gaffer_slow wrote:

hi mod owners.

how does the internal rear brake routing work?

Is it a liner or full outer?

How do you go about changing the inner / liner / outer?

There's a liner installed in a frameset as delivered to get the cable through the frame, but in use it's just the bare inner through the frame.

The cable entry points are removable, so changing doesn't require much effort. You could keep the liner and pull it through with the old cable and use it to route a new cable, but it's not hugely difficult in any case because there's a decent sized hole with the grommet removed.

bendertherobot

These bolts will do right?

bendertherobot

Well? Looks uncomfortably around.................

galatzo

bendertherobot wrote:

Well? Looks uncomfortably around.................

I think you know the answer..... Less is more...

bendertherobot

In black, natch. They'll fit? What are the best chain bolt options?

6wheels

bendertherobot wrote:

Well? Looks uncomfortably around.................

Hex, slot, and next Torx.

ugo.santalucia

Alloy chainring bolts are like a bad wank... you'll regret them

bendertherobot

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Alloy chainring bolts are like a bad rub... you'll regret them

Best ones then?

ugo.santalucia

bendertherobot wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Alloy chainring bolts are like a bad rub... you'll regret them

Best ones then?

Steel ones, Shimano for example or not Shimano. The alloy ones seize

MisterMuncher

+1. Steel bolts unless you've no choice (Cannondale Mk series rings on a hollowgram). FSA Alloy bolts are memorably poor, I've sheared half a dozen at least.

peppern123

Hi,
If you were choosing between the two below which would you go for? Obviously the first is Hi-Mod but 2 years older, would that make a difference?

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p516 ... ACING-2013

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p57 ... M-RED-2015

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

ryanshattered

peppern123 wrote:

Hi,
If you were choosing between the two below which would you go for? Obviously the first is Hi-Mod but 2 years older, would that make a difference?

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p516 ... ACING-2013

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p57 ... M-RED-2015

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Depends on your planned usage I guess.
The 2013 is racing spec so comes with Tubs, non-compact handlebar and 53/39 chainset which would all need changing so it would be the 2015 for me. But those might well all be plus points for the 2013 to you...

ryanshattered

ryanshattered wrote:

peppern123 wrote:

Hi,
If you were choosing between the two below which would you go for? Obviously the first is Hi-Mod but 2 years older, would that make a difference?

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p516 ... ACING-2013

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p57 ... M-RED-2015

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Depends on your planned usage I guess.
The 2013 is racing spec so comes with Tubs, non-compact handlebar and 53/39 chainset which would all need changing so it would be the 2015 for me. But those might well all be plus points for the 2013 to you...

Changed my mind, just checked and those Vision carbon wheels that come on the 2013 are about £700 on CRC with 50% off so you could sell them to fund some really nice clinchers.

wahla21

peppern123 wrote:

Hi,
If you were choosing between the two below which would you go for? Obviously the first is Hi-Mod but 2 years older, would that make a difference?

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p516 ... ACING-2013

http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p57 ... M-RED-2015

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Also depends on if you want 22 or 20 speed....

part time waster

I called Pauls cycles, the 2013 hi-mod is 10 speed sram red. I didn`t get on with this front mech set up and trim function.
You may already know this however.

peppern123

Thanks, lookinng to use for fast sportives and possible racing. With regards to the 20-22 speed excuse my ignorance but for climbing I am assuming the 22 speed would be best? If so which one is 22 speed?

peppern123

Would the age of the 2013 be a negative?

part time waster

In my opinion , the age of frame will make no difference. I am fussy and have always had campagnolo kit where you can trim the front mech click by click which I like . The 10 speed SRAM red front mech in comparison seemed a bit twangy and only had 1 or 2 clicks to adjust , also very tricky to align and the cable tension was critical to get the best operation. I'm an average mechanic , bit rough.
The 11 speed I believe corrected this so would be more acceptable.
As for fast sportives and racing ,10 or 11 speed makes no difference. Choose your wide range cassette and a set of clinchers for sportives, and keep the vision tubular wheels with close ratio cassette to race on.

gaffer_slow

@ bender is this pic from your blog with the 90mm stem? your bike is a 54 right?

bendertherobot

Yep. Looks like, and yes, 54.