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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,005
    FWIW I don't think they are worth £325 apart from weight. But there's enough in them to make them good enough for £250.

    For £160 they are just silly great. Bear in mind that both mine did Battle on the Beach (mate's son borrowed one of my bikes, I used the other one). No issues at all.

    You rode 90 minutes on a beach in South Wales, let's not make it sound as if you crossed the Amazon forest on them... :lol:
  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    FWIW I don't think they are worth £325 apart from weight. But there's enough in them to make them good enough for £250.

    For £160 they are just silly great. Bear in mind that both mine did Battle on the Beach (mate's son borrowed one of my bikes, I used the other one). No issues at all.

    You rode 90 minutes on a beach in South Wales, let's not make it sound as if you crossed the Amazon forest on them... :lol:

    I rode 45 mintutes the night before, he did 50.

    Then, on the day, I rode 2 hrs and 25 minutes, he did 2 hours.

    In addition I've put 1000 miles on them in rubbish weather and take them off road regularly.

    They. seem. fine. That's about all I can currently say, but it is experience.
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  • luv2rideluv2ride Posts: 2,360
    Can you find a link to that?
    Probably too soon to see the review online (mag only came out beginning of April) but they said one set lost a lot of spoke tension whilst another had a bearing fail. They said the wheelset looked a great proposition on paper, but that their experience was below par. Mind you, that was reviewing them at RRP when, as you say, at £160 they are great value assuming they don't fall prey to the same failures. I also have a set of Pro Lite Bracciannos which after 3-4 years are still giving sterling service, so hopefully the Revo's will be similarly reliable.
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  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    My spoke tension is spot on, that was always the biggest worry. Hence the off road comments. Bearings seem ok.
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,005
    A less than glowing review on a non-budget product brings new life to my normally inexistent faith in magazines... :-)
  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    There is that! :)
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  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    By the way,

    if you need support:

    1. If you have the Centrelock version you have to go through NRG4 cycling

    2. If you have 6 bolt you have to go through Wiggle.
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  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    Yeah, that last one is mine. It's the cycling plus (bike radar) one we're after.
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  • kleinstrokerkleinstroker Posts: 2,130
    After some new disc wheels myself in this price range. The Hunts look nice but 8 weeks waiting time is putting me off a bit. Anyone bought Chinese carbon disc wheels at this price point? The downfall of Chinese carbon ie the braking surface seems to be neutralised buying disc wheels.
  • themightywthemightyw Posts: 409
    Hi folks. I'm in the same boat as the OP on this one, with the same budget. From the looks of it, the Pro-Lites are absolutely awesome value if you can get the price match thing (but that seems to have stopped now) but at full price on Wiggle are they still the ones to go for? By the looks of it on paper the Kinessis Crosslite v4 is 4g lighter and about the same price. Looks as if the Mavik Ksyrium is a wee bit heavier again.
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    At full price neither the Prolites or the Kinesis are your best option.

    At that price, go for handbuilts - I would personally go for something like these: http://www.justridingalong.com/wheels/i ... -rims.html
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    But dont give up on the price match - they did it for me recenly.
  • themightywthemightyw Posts: 409
    Thanks for the suggestion! The wheels I have on currently are Archetypes with Shimano 105 hubs, but with 36 spokes and some very heavy tyres (Gatorskin Hardshells) for loaded touring purposes. Am definitely looking for something a fair bit lighter for when I want to have something more like a conventional road bike setup (hilly climbs etc). Perhaps I could achieve that with handbuilts just by a lower spoke count and maybe an ultegra hub?
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    Dont get too hung up on weight, especially at the hub as it makes less difference than weight at the rim. I got the archetypes on American Classic hubs with D-Light spokes (which are great) which are a couple hundred grams lighter than the DT350s and quieter (the main reason I got the AC hubs). The ACs are more expensive though. The reliability and servicing of the DT hubs are fantastic though, and cartridge bearings rather than the shimano cup & cone.

    Archetypes are really easy getting tyres on and off too - somewhat unusual in a rim these days!
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    themightyw wrote:

    Look interesting - nice, light wheels with wide rim and offset spokes. Sounds good on paper. Not sure what hubs they use - not the novatech hubs on the Pro-lites anyway. That would be the big thing I would want to know about. But again, at full price they arent really special as you can get something built by a specialiast hand wheel builder for that money. The do give you free shorts and jersey but I would rather have the price a bit lower or some decent tyres thrown in - cant see the point in free clothes which you probably wouldnt choose anyway.
  • themightywthemightyw Posts: 409
    Yeah I've been looking into the handbuilt option too. Was considering going with this suggestions from The Cycle Clinic.

    24F/24R Velocity Aileron rims
    Black sapim CX-ray spokes/alloy nipples
    Novatec D771/D772 hubs
    Weight 1600g
    Cost £435


    Comments welcome
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,503
    themightyw wrote:
    Yeah I've been looking into the handbuilt option too. Was considering going with this suggestions from The Cycle Clinic.

    24F/24R Velocity Aileron rims
    Black sapim CX-ray spokes/alloy nipples
    Novatec D771/D772 hubs
    Weight 1600g
    Cost £435


    Comments welcome

    Sound great. Toss up between the Ailerons and Pacenti sl25s for me. Are you fairly light? I think some wheel builders would suggest 28 spokes minimum for a disc build for heavier riders.
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    Yes - for disc wheels, the braking force at the centre of the wheel needs to be transferred along the spokes to the rim & tyre where the friction with the road is trying to force the wheel to keep turning. So generally 28 is the recommended minimum in 2x or 3x lacing, definately not radial.
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    Having now been able to venture out on the bike again, just a little bit, the Prolite wheels feel good and am very happy with them except the Prolite/Novatec freehub is very noisy! I think I can cope but once the insurance money comes through, will deffo be getting some handbuilts with either American Classic or DT Swiss hubs to enjoy the peace and quiet again...
  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    Mine are fairly quiet. Fairly. Not Hope loud, not Fulcrum Quattro quiet. Whack some grease in?

    More off road on mine again yesterday, still true, still run and run.
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  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    yes, definately not Hope loud. I may look at grease down the line when they have been run a bit but not keen to start taking hub apart at this stage - I am pretty sure the level of sound is normal, just that I really like quiet hubs.
  • Paul1000Paul1000 Posts: 192
    The freehub is very easy to slide off, greased mine the other day, very quiet now.
  • bendertherobotbendertherobot Posts: 11,650
    Yep. Spanner one end, hex the other, undo, grease, back on.
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  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    ok, might have a look - would any grease do? I have this http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/weld ... p-prod5958 or do I need something specific for the job?
  • Paul1000Paul1000 Posts: 192
    That's what I used.
  • apreadingapreading Posts: 4,533
    Thanks Chaps - and just a little around the pawls, like this?

    s-l1000.jpg
  • MikeBrewMikeBrew Posts: 814
    themightyw wrote:
    Yeah I've been looking into the handbuilt option too. Was considering going with this suggestions from The Cycle Clinic.

    24F/24R Velocity Aileron rims
    Black sapim CX-ray spokes/alloy nipples
    Novatec D771/D772 hubs
    Weight 1600g
    Cost £435


    Comments welcome

    About the same weight as ProLite Revos, despite the Revos' higher spoke count of 28/32 IIRC... I got my Revos priced matched by Wiggle for £160..RRP is £350.Don't know about the Aileron, but the Revo has a 19mm inner rim width for a nice tyre profile. Spend the extra cash on other things maybe ?
  • dj58dj58 Posts: 2,117
    apreading wrote:
    Thanks Chaps - and just a little around the pawls, like this?

    s-l1000.jpg

    I don't know whether you have done this job yet, but I purchased a set of Hunt wheels recently that use Novatech hubs and the noisy freehub was the one thing that I did not like about them. I thought that I would just have to live with it, however after reading this thread I thought I would give greasing the freehub mechanism a go.

    As the other posters have said it is very easy to do, 5mm hex wrench in one end of the axle to hold it still and 17mm cone spanner to undone the end cap on the DS, then the freehub body can be slid off the axle by hand. I used Shimano freehub grease that I already had to do mine, I coated the pawls and inside the hub and re-assembled. A lot quieter than it was, so worth doing I think.
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