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Stevo_666

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

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briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

rjsterry

Stevo_666 said:

Money must be a bit tight at Leftiebollox HQ as I just got this fund raising email from 'Team Labour':
Stevo, time to play in our Winter Prize Draw! You could say we’ve pushed the boat (or in this case, car) out for this year’s competition. 

First place wins you a brand new, top of the range Peugeot E-208 electric car, second place wins you £5,000 and third place wins you £1,000! The deadline to enter is Monday, 23 January, 2023. 

And that’s not all! As an early Christmas present from us, we’re offering six extra quick draw prizes of £500 if you enter by Monday, 12 December, 2022.

Any one of these amazing prizes could be yours. Enter our prize draw for a donation of £2 a ticket, or for free, today:
All proceeds raised from our prize draw fund our crucial campaigns to kick the Tories out of Downing Street and deliver a fairer, greener future for all.

With your support, we can run a winning campaign during the next general election and secure a Labour government.

Enter our Winter Prize Draw today, and you could be driving into a fairer, greener future with a brand new electric car!

Thank you,
Team Labour

Are they a charity?

Think that's universal for all political parties.

surrey_commuter

Stevo_666 said:

Money must be a bit tight at Leftiebollox HQ as I just got this fund raising email from 'Team Labour':
Stevo, time to play in our Winter Prize Draw! You could say we’ve pushed the boat (or in this case, car) out for this year’s competition. 

First place wins you a brand new, top of the range Peugeot E-208 electric car, second place wins you £5,000 and third place wins you £1,000! The deadline to enter is Monday, 23 January, 2023. 

And that’s not all! As an early Christmas present from us, we’re offering six extra quick draw prizes of £500 if you enter by Monday, 12 December, 2022.

Any one of these amazing prizes could be yours. Enter our prize draw for a donation of £2 a ticket, or for free, today:
All proceeds raised from our prize draw fund our crucial campaigns to kick the Tories out of Downing Street and deliver a fairer, greener future for all.

With your support, we can run a winning campaign during the next general election and secure a Labour government.

Enter our Winter Prize Draw today, and you could be driving into a fairer, greener future with a brand new electric car!

Thank you,
Team Labour

Are they a charity?

an opportunity missed for that classic joke

2nd prize: dinner at The Ivey with Keir Starmer
1st prize: dinner at The Ivey

Stevo_666

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

Money must be a bit tight at Leftiebollox HQ as I just got this fund raising email from 'Team Labour':
Stevo, time to play in our Winter Prize Draw! You could say we’ve pushed the boat (or in this case, car) out for this year’s competition. 

First place wins you a brand new, top of the range Peugeot E-208 electric car, second place wins you £5,000 and third place wins you £1,000! The deadline to enter is Monday, 23 January, 2023. 

And that’s not all! As an early Christmas present from us, we’re offering six extra quick draw prizes of £500 if you enter by Monday, 12 December, 2022.

Any one of these amazing prizes could be yours. Enter our prize draw for a donation of £2 a ticket, or for free, today:
All proceeds raised from our prize draw fund our crucial campaigns to kick the Tories out of Downing Street and deliver a fairer, greener future for all.

With your support, we can run a winning campaign during the next general election and secure a Labour government.

Enter our Winter Prize Draw today, and you could be driving into a fairer, greener future with a brand new electric car!

Thank you,
Team Labour

Are they a charity?

an opportunity missed for that classic joke

2nd prize: dinner at The Ivey with Keir Starmer
1st prize: dinner at The Ivey

Or:
1st prize: evening out at The Ivy with Keir Starmer
2nd prize: 2 evenings out at The Ivy with Keir Starmer

Stevo_666

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In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

What part of 'cash prize' don't you understand?

Pross

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Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

What part of 'cash prize' don't you understand?

So which would you prefer, £10k or a car you could sell for £30k?

kingstongraham

Surely no surprise that Labour’s giveaway is more generous.

briantrumpet

I wonder what the Cities of London & Westminster Conservative Association will have in their Christmas Raffle this year?

https://www.twocitiesconservatives.org.uk/events/clwca-luxury-christmas-raffle

Sadly, no nice new summer bikes on last year's list. Maybe it's only tofu-munching anti-car lefties who'd have a bike as a prize.

webboo

Looking at that list I think the Ralph Lauren socks trump the signed bottles by Johnson and the Mogg.

briantrumpet

webboo said:

Looking at that list I think the Ralph Lauren socks trump the signed bottles by Johnson and the Mogg.

I suspect a Truss-signed bottle of Bolly, if she signed as PM, would have some rarity value. Perhaps the Johnson-signed bottle has rarity value as one he didn't drink at one of his many parties.

Stevo_666

Pross said:

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briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

What part of 'cash prize' don't you understand?

So which would you prefer, £10k or a car you could sell for £30k?

Stick to the point, I was referring to the cash prizes.

pangolin

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briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

What part of 'cash prize' don't you understand?

So which would you prefer, £10k or a car you could sell for £30k?

Stick to the point, I was referring to the cash prizes.

Only after you pivoted because someone posted a picture of them doing a raffle after you said you hadn't seen them doing raffles...

Stick to the point Stevo.

Stevo_666

pangolin said:

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briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

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briantrumpet said:

In other news, Momentum struggling with its cuckoo-in-the-nest existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/22/momentum-in-financial-peril-after-leftwing-exodus-from-labour

Momentum’s future is at risk from serious financial challenges, the group will warn its supporters this week, amid an exodus of leftwing members from Labour.

The grassroots group, which emerged from Jeremy Corbyn’s 2015 leadership campaign, has launched a fundraiser with a plea to supporters, titled “Keep Up Momentum”. In a video posted on social media alongside the campaign, the group says: “We can’t let everything we’ve built disappear.”

The group chiefly relies on individual donations, but also requires supporters to be members of Labour – which has had a knock-on effect on its funding, as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the Labour party under Keir Starmer’s leadership.

Maybe they should do a Christmas raffle? They might have to have some more socialist prizes than the cars and cash offered by Labour. Copy of the Socialist Worker rag or a commemorative Michael Foot donkey jacket?

Do Tories ever do fundraising, such as raffling (or, rather more Tory-like, auctioning) access to cabinet ministers?

Never seen any charity raffles. If you want to help fend off the threat of leftiebollox then you can always donate in the usual way.

At least the cash prizes are better Labour can't really give out too much otherwise their voters may turn away from them.

Except the Labour top prize is a car with a value of over £30k according to your own post so you didn't really think that through did you?

I said cash prizes, deliberately

So sell the car for less than its value and you still get 3 times as much cash.

What part of 'cash prize' don't you understand?

So which would you prefer, £10k or a car you could sell for £30k?

Stick to the point, I was referring to the cash prizes.

Only after you pivoted because someone posted a picture of them doing a raffle after you said you hadn't seen them doing raffles...

Stick to the point Stevo.

I hadn't seen, Brian had. Surely even you can understand that?

kingstongraham

I might Google to see if there's any website that would allow me to search for things.

rjsterry

Would it be possible to berate the Labour party for their actual bad ideas - like nationalising energy generation - rather than (gasp) running a raffle to raise funds like every other party? I mean it's not as though there's a lack of targets.

Stevo_666

rjsterry said:

Would it be possible to berate the Labour party for their actual bad ideas - like nationalising energy generation - rather than (gasp) running a raffle to raise funds like every other party? I mean it's not as though there's a lack of targets.

I'm waiting for Labour to spell out a lot of their policies properly. They seem to be quite shy on some of the details.

This helps pass the time.

kingstongraham

I think they're worried that agent Jeremy will just do them now and steal their thunder.

Stevo_666

kingstongraham said:

I think they're worried that agent Jeremy will just do them now and steal their thunder.

Quite possibly. Where is Agent 00Stalin when you need him?

pblakeney

kingstongraham said:

I think they're worried that agent Jeremy will just do them now and steal their thunder.

I find it funny that we have a tory government in name only implementing labour policies.

surrey_commuter

pblakeney said:

kingstongraham said:

I think they're worried that agent Jeremy will just do them now and steal their thunder.

I find it funny that we have a tory government in name only implementing labour policies.

I don't

Stevo_666

I think will need to see what Labour policies are once they are past the empty rhetoric stage.

pblakeney

surrey_commuter said:

pblakeney said:

kingstongraham said:

I think they're worried that agent Jeremy will just do them now and steal their thunder.

I find it funny that we have a tory government in name only implementing labour policies.

I don't

Laugh or cry. There's no point in crying.
What's your pick at the next election? Labour or labour policies? Tories are dysfunctional.

rjsterry

Stevo_666 said:

I think will need to see what Labour policies are once they are past the empty rhetoric stage.

From the front page of their website.

1. Create good, green jobs and new high-tech green industries across the UK via our climate investment pledge.

2. Scrap business rates and replace them with a system that will incentivise investment and level the playing field between high street businesses and global giants.

3. Create a new Industrial Strategy Council to embed long-termism into our economic strategy and form a new partnership with business.

4. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to strengthen the foundations of our economy and strengthen supply chains. Our plan will create jobs and growth in all parts of the country and help to secure Britain’s economy against future shocks.

5. Introduce a new deal for working people boosting jobs security and securing fair pay.

2 seems the most specific, although it doesn't really say what the replacement would be. Would agree the rest is pretty vague.

A lot of it does sound very similar to what Johnson was saying.

Stevo_666

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

I think will need to see what Labour policies are once they are past the empty rhetoric stage.

From the front page of their website.

1. Create good, green jobs and new high-tech green industries across the UK via our climate investment pledge.

2. Scrap business rates and replace them with a system that will incentivise investment and level the playing field between high street businesses and global giants.

3. Create a new Industrial Strategy Council to embed long-termism into our economic strategy and form a new partnership with business.

4. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to strengthen the foundations of our economy and strengthen supply chains. Our plan will create jobs and growth in all parts of the country and help to secure Britain’s economy against future shocks.

5. Introduce a new deal for working people boosting jobs security and securing fair pay.

2 seems the most specific, although it doesn't really say what the replacement would be. Would agree the rest is pretty vague.

A lot of it does sound very similar to what Johnson was saying.

Yep, a lot of it is pretty vague. I guess they don't want to be too specific as they will then scare a lot of voters and get stick over crap policies. I look forward to the details...

rjsterry

Based on the last election, voters seem very happy with vague stuff that never comes to pass.

morstar

Stevo_666 said:

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

I think will need to see what Labour policies are once they are past the empty rhetoric stage.

From the front page of their website.

1. Create good, green jobs and new high-tech green industries across the UK via our climate investment pledge.

2. Scrap business rates and replace them with a system that will incentivise investment and level the playing field between high street businesses and global giants.

3. Create a new Industrial Strategy Council to embed long-termism into our economic strategy and form a new partnership with business.

4. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to strengthen the foundations of our economy and strengthen supply chains. Our plan will create jobs and growth in all parts of the country and help to secure Britain’s economy against future shocks.

5. Introduce a new deal for working people boosting jobs security and securing fair pay.

2 seems the most specific, although it doesn't really say what the replacement would be. Would agree the rest is pretty vague.

A lot of it does sound very similar to what Johnson was saying.

Yep, a lot of it is pretty vague. I guess they don't want to be too specific as they will then scare a lot of voters and get stick over censored policies. I look forward to the details...

Bit like Brexit then.

secretsqirrel

If they get too specific the Tories will pinch their ideas.

pangolin

rjsterry said:

Based on the last election, voters seem very happy with vague stuff that never comes to pass.

The last general election, or one of the following 2 leadership elections?

Stevo_666

morstar said:

Stevo_666 said:

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

I think will need to see what Labour policies are once they are past the empty rhetoric stage.

From the front page of their website.

1. Create good, green jobs and new high-tech green industries across the UK via our climate investment pledge.

2. Scrap business rates and replace them with a system that will incentivise investment and level the playing field between high street businesses and global giants.

3. Create a new Industrial Strategy Council to embed long-termism into our economic strategy and form a new partnership with business.

4. Buy, make and sell more in Britain to strengthen the foundations of our economy and strengthen supply chains. Our plan will create jobs and growth in all parts of the country and help to secure Britain’s economy against future shocks.

5. Introduce a new deal for working people boosting jobs security and securing fair pay.

2 seems the most specific, although it doesn't really say what the replacement would be. Would agree the rest is pretty vague.

A lot of it does sound very similar to what Johnson was saying.

Yep, a lot of it is pretty vague. I guess they don't want to be too specific as they will then scare a lot of voters and get stick over censored policies. I look forward to the details...

Bit like Brexit then.

Let's deal with what's ahead of us rather than crying over spilt milk - and there's plenty of that in the appropriate thread.