BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    Oops! Please pardon my spelling faux pas. In my excitement on this momentous day I slipped up and forgot to proof read my post.
    Apologies folks...
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    ukiboy wrote:
    ... faux pas...

    Using French now are we? 'Kipper goon squad is after you. :D
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    Mein Gott! Was dachte ich!?
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • letap73
    letap73 Posts: 1,608
    ukiboy wrote:
    Oops! Please pardon my spelling faux pas. In my excitement on this momentous day I slipped up and forgot to proof read my post.
    Apologies folks...

    Please do come back in say a years time and reflect on this momentous day.
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    And perhaps you can also come back in, say, a years time and we can both discuss the situation over a nice pint of London Pride or Hertford Castle?
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    ukiboy wrote:
    Who has stated that our peak was 1870 - 1913?

    Our finest hour was surely standing up to the Nazis in '39...

    I would argue that the 100 years from 1805 when our navy truly ruled the waves and allowed us to rule the world unchallenged.

    1939 wasn't that great as we did nothing but fail. First half of 1940 was a triumph of propaganda over fact. Dunkirk was a monumental defeat.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    ukiboy wrote:
    And perhaps you can also come back in, say, a years time and we can both discuss the situation over a nice pint of London Pride or Hertford Castle?

    Since when had London Pride been a nice pint?
    You need to get out more.
    Come down to the forest sometime and I'll take you for a nice pint of Flack Manor Double Drop at my local or if you're in luck Andwells King John.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • gaffer_slow
    gaffer_slow Posts: 417
    Again. If we could get back to the big issue - it is not unlikely that Scotland becomes an Independent EU member that uses the €uro...
    ....Sturgeon et al would be missing a trick if they didn't run #indyref2 with the headline issue as "Cheap Canyons for All!"
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    ukiboy wrote:
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.


    Huzzah!


    I'll be celebrating with a cold Atlantic IPA tonight. Unlike some on here who'll be sobbing into their double mocha latte light on the train back to the leafy burbs of Surrey.

    Europhiles.
    Planes haven't fallen out of the sky.
    Cars still on the roads.
    Trains still chuffing along.
    Shops still open.
    People walking up and down the street.
    It's just another day in the UK.
    But an independent UK.
    A UK that isn't part of a system that is financially butt f***ing Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ukiboy wrote:
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.


    Huzzah!


    I'll be celebrating with a cold Atlantic IPA tonight. Unlike some on here who'll be sobbing into their double mocha latte light on the train back to the leafy burbs of Surrey.
    .

    How rude.
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    Atlantic IPA is a seriously good beer! It's the same brewery that does Doom Bar isn't it?

    Cheers!
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ukiboy wrote:
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.


    Huzzah!


    I'll be celebrating with a cold Atlantic IPA tonight. Unlike some on here who'll be sobbing into their double mocha latte light on the train back to the leafy burbs of Surrey.

    Europhiles.
    Planes haven't fallen out of the sky.
    Cars still on the roads.
    Trains still chuffing along.
    Shops still open.
    People walking up and down the street.

    Setting a high bar there mate.

    For what it's worth, pound has fallen so far that UK is now the 6th biggest economy behind France in 5th.


    Read somewhere 70 odd% of people in jobs voted to remain. I guess it's up to them to clear up the mess left by the unemployed and lazy.
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    No thanks to the f*cking nativist far right UKIPers, and their bigot ways, with their nazi inspired posters.

    It'll be the same rational sensible people who voted remain who will be the ones sorting out the mess. And let's be clear, it's a mess.

    And they'll get on with it, and they'll continue to be hated by the narrow minded provincial bigots, despite their efforts.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    You are riight about markets and uncertainty and indeed to look to the longer term. It was suggested before that we could be better off after 14 years. Now assuming that your circumstances make you immune to a economic downturn do you not think that will feel like a very long time to somebody who is effected?
  • BelgianBeerGeek
    BelgianBeerGeek Posts: 5,226
    ukiboy wrote:
    Atlantic IPA is a seriously good beer! It's the same brewery that does Doom Bar isn't it?

    Cheers!
    Sharps, owned by Molson Coors, a US company. Hence the preponderance of Doom Bar throughout the UK. meh.
    Still, hurrah for the UK inedependant, eh?
    I'll raise a 1664 to that!
    Ecrasez l’infame
  • ukiboy
    ukiboy Posts: 891
    Why is it that when democracy goes against them and delivers a decision that they don't like the liberal lefty elite resort to petty name calling and petulant outbursts Rick?

    I voted leave but I'm not far right, nazi, chavvy or uneducated.
    I speak 3 languages, went to university and work bloody long hours paying lots of tax to the treasury.
    I'm just sick and tired of know it all Islington elites telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
    I voted leave and I will live and die by my decision. For better or worse it's what this country wants.
    Deal with that and pull together, muck in and carry on doing what we've always done and ensure that this country remains the great nation that it has always been.
    Outside the rat race and proud of it
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    No thanks to the f*cking nativist far right UKIPers, and their bigot ways, with their nazi inspired posters.

    It'll be the same rational sensible people who voted remain who will be the ones sorting out the mess. And let's be clear, it's a mess.

    And they'll get on with it, and they'll continue to be hated by the narrow minded provincial bigots, despite their efforts.

    In fairness if the Tories lurch to the right then any new deficit could be predominantly filled by more austerity. After all the new leader of the Tories will know these people will never vote for him.
  • BelgianBeerGeek
    BelgianBeerGeek Posts: 5,226
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    You are riight about markets and uncertainty and indeed to look to the longer term. It was suggested before that we could be better off after 14 years. Now assuming that your circumstances make you immune to a economic downturn do you not think that will feel like a very long time to somebody who is effected?
    14 years? I could be dead by then. Is this what politics has come to? I am not from a wealthy background, but my parents could expect wages to increase as their family grew. Mine are going down. jeez.
    Still, when those who have kids ( thank the gods I do not) are telling the babes their bedtime stories, they can say "Hopefully, in 14 years, when you are an adult, this will be better". Is that it?
    Good night and God Bless...
    Ecrasez l’infame
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    No thanks to the f*cking nativist far right UKIPers, and their bigot ways, with their nazi inspired posters.

    It'll be the same rational sensible people who voted remain who will be the ones sorting out the mess. And let's be clear, it's a mess.

    And they'll get on with it, and they'll continue to be hated by the narrow minded provincial bigots, despite their efforts.

    I take exception to your inference that 17.5 million people in your eyes are no better than Nazis. Proves what a narrow minded person you are.

    This vote for nearly all those that voted leave was about Democracy, the political elite in the UK and Europe and the banking and financial institutions.
    17.5m disenfranchised citizens.

    Farage has had his day in the sun. He is yesterday's news.
    Move on. Accept that the UK had decided to strike out on its own.
    Or better still if this country is so cr4p you could always bu66er off to France. Belgium et all. Do it quick mind you, before the Iron Curtain comes down!
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    ukiboy wrote:
    Why is it that when democracy goes against them and delivers a decision that they don't like the liberal lefty elite resort to petty name calling and petulant outbursts Rick?

    I voted leave but I'm not far right, nazi, chavvy or uneducated.
    I speak 3 languages, went to university and work bloody long hours paying lots of tax to the treasury.
    I'm just sick and tired of know it all Islington elites telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
    I voted leave and I will live and die by my decision. For better or worse it's what this country wants.
    Deal with that and pull together, muck in and carry on doing what we've always done and ensure that this country remains the great nation that it has always been.

    I am genuinely confused. If you hate the Islington elite why did you not vote Remain? Where do you think Boris/gove live? You have to admire the way they and Farage have portrayed themselves as anti-establishment
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ukiboy wrote:
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.


    Huzzah!


    I'll be celebrating with a cold Atlantic IPA tonight. Unlike some on here who'll be sobbing into their double mocha latte light on the train back to the leafy burbs of Surrey.

    Europhiles.
    Planes haven't fallen out of the sky.
    Cars still on the roads.
    Trains still chuffing along.
    Shops still open.
    People walking up and down the street.
    It's just another day in the UK.
    But an independent UK.
    A UK that isn't part of a system that is financially butt f***ing Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain.

    You confuse me. I thought you worked in the construction sector as I do. Have you looked at what has happened to shares in house builders today? They are up there with the banks in how much they have been smashed. I'm hoping I can somehow survive another downturn in the industry but given it had got nowhere near a full recovery from the last one I fear unemployment may be heading my way for the first time in a 26 year working life.

    Independent UK my ar$e, we'll have to partly dance to someone else's tune if we want to do business with them. With the exception of a few pariah states no country is truly independent in this day and age.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    edited June 2016
    Rick

    3.9 million voted for UKIP, 17+ million voted Leave. That's me and 13 million others who are not UKIP voters, who had motives not related to hating immigrants for wanting to leave the EU.

    Please stop with the petty name calling. You didn't get what you wanted, but you can choose to act like a grown up.
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    I still can't believe people are overlooking how many of the manufacturing companies here are foreign. What happens when Nissan winds Sunderland down? 15% of our economy is making stuff which is now likelyto shrink rapidly. To be replaced by what exactly? Anyone? Not had a single response on this from any leave voter which says it all.

    I have a real grave feeling the UK is about to head down the pan at the behest of racist pensioners and ignorant northerners thinking last night was a protest vote. Liberal lefty elite? That old elusive bogeyman. It was about EU membership yesterday for crying out loud, why on earth was anyone looking beyond that?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ukiboy wrote:
    Markets hate uncertainty. It's to be expected that the economy will take a hit in the short term Rick.
    Let's see what happens 1,2, 10 years down the line. This great country will flourish.

    No thanks to the f*cking nativist far right UKIPers, and their bigot ways, with their nazi inspired posters.

    It'll be the same rational sensible people who voted remain who will be the ones sorting out the mess. And let's be clear, it's a mess.

    And they'll get on with it, and they'll continue to be hated by the narrow minded provincial bigots, despite their efforts.

    I take exception to your inference that 17.5 million people in your eyes are no better than Nazis. Proves what a narrow minded person you are.

    This vote for nearly all those that voted leave was about Democracy, the political elite in the UK and Europe and the banking and financial institutions.
    17.5m disenfranchised citizens.

    Farage has had his day in the sun. He is yesterday's news.
    Move on. Accept that the UK had decided to strike out on its own.
    Or better still if this country is so cr4p you could always bu66er off to France. Belgium et all. Do it quick mind you, before the Iron Curtain comes down!

    The problem is that the other 16 million pay the bills
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,320
    ukiboy wrote:
    Why is it that when democracy goes against them and delivers a decision that they don't like the liberal lefty elite resort to petty name calling and petulant outbursts Rick?

    I'm not an Islington elite. All the people in Scotland aren't Islington Elites. I bet most of the 47% odd are not Islington Elites.

    Of course Farage is welcome up here anytime.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    ukiboy wrote:
    Why is it that when democracy goes against them and delivers a decision that they don't like the liberal lefty elite resort to petty name calling and petulant outbursts Rick?

    I voted leave but I'm not far right, nazi, chavvy or uneducated.
    I speak 3 languages, went to university and work bloody long hours paying lots of tax to the treasury.
    I'm just sick and tired of know it all Islington elites telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
    I voted leave and I will live and die by my decision. For better or worse it's what this country wants.
    Deal with that and pull together, muck in and carry on doing what we've always done and ensure that this country remains the great nation that it has always been.

    I am genuinely confused. If you hate the Islington elite why did you not vote Remain? Where do you think Boris/gove live? You have to admire the way they and Farage have portrayed themselves as anti-establishment

    They've shoved their hands up some peoples backsides and operated them like a puppet quite frankly. I do wonder when the penny will drop...
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,320
    If anyone thinks that the elite will no longer be on power for the elite as a result of this vote, then they are in cloud cuckoo land.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Pross wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    ukiboy wrote:
    I will! No doubt about that. British independence doesn't happen every day!
    This country will flourish and grow - 23rd June is a momentous day for democracy.


    Huzzah!


    I'll be celebrating with a cold Atlantic IPA tonight. Unlike some on here who'll be sobbing into their double mocha latte light on the train back to the leafy burbs of Surrey.

    Europhiles.
    Planes haven't fallen out of the sky.
    Cars still on the roads.
    Trains still chuffing along.
    Shops still open.
    People walking up and down the street.
    It's just another day in the UK.
    But an independent UK.
    A UK that isn't part of a system that is financially butt f***ing Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain.

    You confuse me. I thought you worked in the construction sector as I do. Have you looked at what has happened to shares in house builders today? They are up there with the banks in how much they have been smashed. I'm hoping I can somehow survive another downturn in the industry but given it had got nowhere near a full recovery from the last one I fear unemployment may be heading my way for the first time in a 26 year working life.

    Independent UK my ar$e, we'll have to partly dance to someone else's tune if we want to do business with them. With the exception of a few pariah states no country is truly independent in this day and age.

    Housebuilding is only thriving sector in construction. I'm commercial sector and there ain't much of that going on in the south.

    Anyhow. It would be great to see TW shares back at 7p each. I might buy a few thousand.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.