BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

TheBigBean

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

It’s more a comment on the clout. Imagine being at the table to have a say over how to use the clout. A veto even.

Yes, I understand why you think it is super amazing and demonstrates the great power of the EU, but that power, in my opinion, in this case. is being misused. Furthermore, it's not really a meaningful battle. Bespoke chargers are pretty low down my list of big tech annoyances.

Stevo_666

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

It’s more a comment on the clout. Imagine being at the table to have a say over how to use the clout. A veto even.

Yes, I understand why you think it is super amazing and demonstrates the great power of the EU, but that power, in my opinion, in this case. is being misused. Furthermore, it's not really a meaningful battle. Bespoke chargers are pretty low down my list of big tech annoyances.

Does seem a bit of an odd and petty point to focus on. Should be up to companies how they spec what they sell. Apparently the reason was to reduce e-waste.

ddraver

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

rjsterry

Stevo_666 said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

It’s more a comment on the clout. Imagine being at the table to have a say over how to use the clout. A veto even.

Yes, I understand why you think it is super amazing and demonstrates the great power of the EU, but that power, in my opinion, in this case. is being misused. Furthermore, it's not really a meaningful battle. Bespoke chargers are pretty low down my list of big tech annoyances.

Does seem a bit of an odd and petty point to focus on. Should be up to companies how they spec what they sell. Apparently the reason was to reduce e-waste.

They manage to sell their overpriced chargers with standard 3-pin plugs so what's so difficult about having a standard charging port on their phones?

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

It’s more a comment on the clout. Imagine being at the table to have a say over how to use the clout. A veto even.

Yes, I understand why you think it is super amazing and demonstrates the great power of the EU, but that power, in my opinion, in this case. is being misused. Furthermore, it's not really a meaningful battle. Bespoke chargers are pretty low down my list of big tech annoyances.

Does seem a bit of an odd and petty point to focus on. Should be up to companies how they spec what they sell. Apparently the reason was to reduce e-waste.

They manage to sell their overpriced chargers with standard 3-pin plugs so what's so difficult about having a standard charging port on their phones?

Do they still come with a three pin plug? Also, the 3 pin plug is a safety feature. That's the sort of thing that government's should be involved with.

TheBigBean

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

wallace_and_gromit

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

TheBigBean

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

And mountain bike wheels used to be 26 inches...

davebradswmb

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

pangolin

davebradswmb said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

Plus you have to think about QR vs thru axle, 6 bolt vs centrelock...

wallace_and_gromit

davebradswmb said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

You must be overthinking things then. I am a complete technical duffer and have never bought the wrong sized wheel or tyre for my road bike. This is all the proof you need that the system that has evolved is easily navigable. I have had a few problems over the years with the kids' bikes as they have in their time ridden on bikes with 12", 14", 16", 20", 24", 26" and 27" wheels.

Ensuring I bought the correct spares for MTB disk brakes to go on hols nearly sent me over the edge as the possibilities seemed endless!

wallace_and_gromit

pangolin said:

davebradswmb said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

Plus you have to think about QR vs thru axle, 6 bolt vs centrelock...

Not a problem I've encountered in practice. Maybe I don't buy enough wheels.

TheBigBean

wallace_and_gromit said:

davebradswmb said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

You must be overthinking things then. I am a complete technical duffer and have never bought the wrong sized wheel or tyre for my road bike. This is all the proof you need that the system that has evolved is easily navigable. I have had a few problems over the years with the kids' bikes as they have in their time ridden on bikes with 12", 14", 16", 20", 24", 26" and 27" wheels.

Ensuring I bought the correct spares for MTB disk brakes to go on hols nearly sent me over the edge as the possibilities seemed endless!

There was also a transition from 27 1/4 inch to 700c, but I think the basic point is that the industry managed without government interference.

Edit - poor memory for wheel sizes.

rick_chasey

TheBigBean said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

davebradswmb said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

Indeed. Bike wheels / tyres are a good example (pre-tubeless) i.e. road bike wheels are standardised at 27'' across the world without any government intervention, with relatively little variety in available widths. So even someone as mechanically inept as me can buy wheels to fit my bike with tyres to fit the rims.

Tubeless has made things a bit trickier given the hooked and hookless distinction, but I'm sure one form will soon come to dominate. (Bit of an issue too with disk brakes allowing wider tyres, as if my understanding is correct, some tyres width / rim combinations are incompatible.)

All governments need to do is impose a pragmatic safety regime.

I can't tell if you are being serious or just taking the mickey, tyre sizing has always been a minefield, and things have only got worse.

You must be overthinking things then. I am a complete technical duffer and have never bought the wrong sized wheel or tyre for my road bike. This is all the proof you need that the system that has evolved is easily navigable. I have had a few problems over the years with the kids' bikes as they have in their time ridden on bikes with 12", 14", 16", 20", 24", 26" and 27" wheels.

Ensuring I bought the correct spares for MTB disk brakes to go on hols nearly sent me over the edge as the possibilities seemed endless!

There was also a transition from 27 1/4 inch to 700c, but I think the basic point is that the industry managed without government interference.

Entirely different market structure, not comparable.

davebradswmb

There has never been a 27 1/4 inch wheel for starters, it used to be 27" in the UK, while France had 700mm. Now we've got 29" wheels which are actually 700C, 650B which are sometimes called 27.5". You might think that the 26" wheels that used to be fitted to touring and shopping bikes are the same as 26" wheels fitted to mountain bikes, but you'd be wrong. The quoted size makes no sense either, it is supposed to be the diameter over the tyre, but what happens if you change the size of the tyre? It's a mess which ISO has tried its best to sort out, which while not being strictly government interference is at least someone looking at the mess that happens when everyone is allowed to do their own thing.

Joseph Whitworth is turning in his grave.

sungod

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

who else will reign in manufacturers that create proprietary connectors that lock-in consumers and increase the appalling proliferation of e-waste?

the lightning connector is long outdated, usb-c thrashes it on maximum power and data rates

apple already dropped it from some other products in favour of the superior usb-c

the only reason for apple continuing to inflict it on consumers is to keep them locked in and perpetuate a revenue stream - even third-party manufacturers have to pay apple a fee per cable due to built-in authentication chip (or counterfeit it)

TheBigBean

sungod said:

TheBigBean said:

ddraver said:

TheBigBean said:

Pross said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

Can't help but notice the EU was able to strong arm apple into making the new iphone use the standard USB-C port.

Of all the ways they could meaningfully try to regulate big tech companies, they've gone with the one that stifles innovation. Will they now regulate bottom brackets on bikes?

I hope so, 'innovation' in that department has been censored

I don't like all the different sizing, press fit etc. but I think my latest Shimano one which fits a 68mm thread is much better than square taper, so that is progress. The EU should pass a law that all bikes should have 68mm threaded BBs.

Also, all phones should have 3.5mm headphone jack.

I thought you were all "down with this sort of thing" but I'm right behind you so far...

Now let's talk about cars & motorbikes please!

I'm happy when things become standardised. I don't think it is the government's job to legislate for it though.

who else will reign in manufacturers that create proprietary connectors that lock-in consumers and increase the appalling proliferation of e-waste?

the lightning connector is long outdated, usb-c thrashes it on maximum power and data rates

apple already dropped it from some other products in favour of the superior usb-c

the only reason for apple continuing to inflict it on consumers is to keep them locked in and perpetuate a revenue stream - even third-party manufacturers have to pay apple a fee per cable due to built-in authentication chip (or counterfeit it)

The free market.

pblakeney

sungod said:

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the lightning connector is long outdated, usb-c thrashes it on maximum power and data rates
...

You are going to have to explain that. Lightning is double the speed of USB-C.
USB4 levels the field to Lightning.

skyblueamateur

pblakeney said:

sungod said:

...
the lightning connector is long outdated, usb-c thrashes it on maximum power and data rates
...

You are going to have to explain that. Lightning is double the speed of USB-C.
USB4 levels the field to Lightning.

Are you sure? Every article I’ve seen suggests the opposite to be the case?

https://www.lifewire.com/usb-c-vs-lightning-5206813

pblakeney

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

skyblueamateur

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

skyblueamateur

You can’t use a thunderbolt cable in iPhone 14 or older.

Lightning was purely a money spinner for Apple.

skyblueamateur

The EU have done iPhone users a massive favour and increased the potential transfer speeds as I believe the 15 will be USB-C but also support Thunderbolt 4 which are both a huge leap on from Lightning.

pblakeney

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

Ah, fair enough. I've failed twice today 🤬. Mostly because I'm not interested in what a phone can do. I was thinking laptops/PC. Surprised the EU didn't go for that too.

skyblueamateur

pblakeney said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

Ah, fair enough. I've failed twice today 🤬. Mostly because I'm not interested in what a phone can do. I was thinking laptops/PC. Surprised the EU didn't go for that too.

There was no need. Thunderbolt and USB-C cables are interchangeable. From here on in you can use a USB-C or Thunderbolt to charge all mobile phones and laptops.

This is good policy.

TheBigBean

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

Ah, fair enough. I've failed twice today 🤬. Mostly because I'm not interested in what a phone can do. I was thinking laptops/PC. Surprised the EU didn't go for that too.

There was no need. Thunderbolt and USB-C cables are interchangeable. From here on in you can use a USB-C or Thunderbolt to charge all mobile phones and laptops.

This is good policy.

Any other subjects you think governments should help consumers decide with?

skyblueamateur

Is this not just an extension of CE? Not all regulation is detrimental to consumers

rick_chasey

TheBigBean said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

Ah, fair enough. I've failed twice today 🤬. Mostly because I'm not interested in what a phone can do. I was thinking laptops/PC. Surprised the EU didn't go for that too.

There was no need. Thunderbolt and USB-C cables are interchangeable. From here on in you can use a USB-C or Thunderbolt to charge all mobile phones and laptops.

This is good policy.

Any other subjects you think governments should help consumers decide with?

Food safety levels

rick_chasey

Flammable or otherwise unsafe materials.

pblakeney

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

skyblueamateur said:

pblakeney said:

Don't know what their sources were. USB-C prior to USB4 was 20 Gbps, Lightning is 40 Gbps. USB4 is 40 Gbps.

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/742967/usb-speeds-types-and-features-explained.html

No it’s not. You’re looking at Thunderbolt. It’s the lightning adapter that has been changed on the current iPhones.

The article you quote doesn’t specify any lightning transfer speeds.

Google usb-c v lightning

Ah, fair enough. I've failed twice today 🤬. Mostly because I'm not interested in what a phone can do. I was thinking laptops/PC. Surprised the EU didn't go for that too.

There was no need. Thunderbolt and USB-C cables are interchangeable. From here on in you can use a USB-C or Thunderbolt to charge all mobile phones and laptops.

This is good policy.

Any other subjects you think governments should help consumers decide with?

Food safety levels

Risky one. Some have concerns about soft cheese.