BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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People who didn't want us to join in the first place banged on about it for 40 odd years and eventually got their own way so why shouldn't those who want to rejoin do the same?Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.0 -
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.0 -
Vote for it then.Pross said:
People who didn't want us to join in the first place banged on about it for 40 odd years and eventually got their own way so why shouldn't those who want to rejoin do the same?Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above.0 -
Whatever. If you want it, vote for it.kingstongraham said:
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And in the meantime, we'll keep banging on about it, to shift the dial even further to the remain side. Successful campaigns only happen when they are kept in the public gaze, for however long it takes. Since opinion is moving in the right direction, all the more reason not to give up.Stevo_666 said:
Whatever. If you want it, vote for it.kingstongraham said:
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above.
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100% agree with this.briantrumpet said:
And in the meantime, we'll keep banging on about it, to shift the dial even further to the remain side. Successful campaigns only happen when they are kept in the public gaze, for however long it takes. Since opinion is moving in the right direction, all the more reason not to give up.Stevo_666 said:
Whatever. If you want it, vote for it.kingstongraham said:
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above.
We'll never have a proper conversation about our place in Europe whilst the Daily Mail wing of the Tories are in charge, but they are not long of this world. Labour have kept cards very close to their chest but I am sure their positions will be nowhere near as entrenched as this lot.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the Tories that become the first party to push for closer integration, if only to distance themselves from the toxicity of the 2016-24 iteration of the party.
There are a lot of people that want the perks we had in the EU back and it's only a matter of time before parties start courting their votes.0 -
What, like all those who wanted to leave did for 40 years when no Party was offering it as a policy? If a (main) Party would have it has a policy I would vote for them.Stevo_666 said:
Vote for it then.Pross said:
People who didn't want us to join in the first place banged on about it for 40 odd years and eventually got their own way so why shouldn't those who want to rejoin do the same?Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.0 -
You know I'm right.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
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super_davo said:
100% agree with this.briantrumpet said:
And in the meantime, we'll keep banging on about it, to shift the dial even further to the remain side. Successful campaigns only happen when they are kept in the public gaze, for however long it takes. Since opinion is moving in the right direction, all the more reason not to give up.Stevo_666 said:
Whatever. If you want it, vote for it.kingstongraham said:
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above.
We'll never have a proper conversation about our place in Europe whilst the Daily Mail wing of the Tories are in charge, but they are not long of this world. Labour have kept cards very close to their chest but I am sure their positions will be nowhere near as entrenched as this lot.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the Tories that become the first party to push for closer integration, if only to distance themselves from the toxicity of the 2016-24 iteration of the party.
There are a lot of people that want the perks we had in the EU back and it's only a matter of time before parties start courting their votes.
I'd been hoping that Sunak might have been pragmatic enough to try that tactic, as they've got nothing else to lose electorally, but it seems he's been taken hostage by the Britain First wing of the Tory Party, and he's happy to cut off any appendages he's got left while the ship goes down. (I hope someone appreciates mixed metaphors.)
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I'm afraid I don't.kingstongraham said:
You know I'm right.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
That's not my problem.Pross said:
What, like all those who wanted to leave did for 40 years when no Party was offering it as a policy? If a (main) Party would have it has a policy I would vote for them.Stevo_666 said:
Vote for it then.Pross said:
People who didn't want us to join in the first place banged on about it for 40 odd years and eventually got their own way so why shouldn't those who want to rejoin do the same?Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If you think that will shift the dial then good for you. Good luck.briantrumpet said:
And in the meantime, we'll keep banging on about it, to shift the dial even further to the remain side. Successful campaigns only happen when they are kept in the public gaze, for however long it takes. Since opinion is moving in the right direction, all the more reason not to give up.Stevo_666 said:
Whatever. If you want it, vote for it.kingstongraham said:
You would have been saying the same thing about those campaigning to leave when it was in no manifesto of any party that was anywhere near power.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.
Also you haven't answered my question above."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I admire your misplaced optimism in your influence on what other people post. Good luck to you.Stevo_666 said:
I'm afraid I don't.kingstongraham said:
You know I'm right.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post.0 -
Looking at the number of replies a lot of my posts seem to generate, not sure why you say thatkingstongraham said:
I admire your misplaced optimism in your influence on what other people post. Good luck to you.Stevo_666 said:
I'm afraid I don't.kingstongraham said:
You know I'm right.Stevo_666 said:
If you think its a good use of your time...however it won't change what I postkingstongraham said:
In the same spirit, I think you might be wasting your valuable posting time trying to get people to stop posting about it.Stevo_666 said:
It's for their own good - hate to see people wasting their efforts. In any event, I'm sure that if it's such a great idea then surely people will be falling over themselves to vote for any party that has it in their manifesto?kingstongraham said:
Someone using your account keeps telling people to shut up about Brexit.Stevo_666 said:
Even if I was, why would I care?kingstongraham said:
What you're actually saying without realising it is that those who want to rejoin should keep banging on about it incessantly for years and years because that way some party might decide to put in a manifesto that it would be an option.Stevo_666 said:
There's a GE coming up in just over a year, so the best thing to do is vote for a party that makes rejoining the EU a manifesto promise and has a more than a snowball in Hells chance of winning. Oh hang on...rick_chasey said:
Well, not in the same bucket as EU countries, obviously.Stevo_666 said:
Blimey, that's a new one. We're in the same bucket as the rest of the world now. C'est la vie, as we say in the UK.rick_chasey said:
Who knew Brexit made Brits who lead international lives that involved other EU countries more difficult.Stevo_666 said:It does seem like the biggest Brexit drama queens are those who own properties in Europe
I appreciate your life is pretty UK centric but for those of us who have international families and lives, implicitly built on that free movement, it is a genuine shock and problem.
To be glib about it, and to argue "well it's now the same for you as it is for those who have families outside of the EU" really misses the point.
Those of us with multiple citizenships are not, despite what May will say, citizens of nowhere. We still live our lives and for a large portion of them it's been made substantially harder.
I will not advise you whether to continue, as I realise the same would then apply to this post. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are you absolutely sure it's not you replying?
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Nope, I am looking at currently. Sometimes I like to leave it alone because there's lot of pointless and repetiive whining n it though.kingstongraham said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I've noticed that.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, I am looking at currently. Sometimes I like to leave it alone because there's lot of pointless and repetiive whining n it though.kingstongraham said:1 -
Lolkingstongraham said:
I've noticed that.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, I am looking at currently. Sometimes I like to leave it alone because there's lot of pointless and repetiive whining n it though.kingstongraham said:- Genesis Croix de Fer
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True, it's hard to miss the amount of whining.kingstongraham said:
I've noticed that.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, I am looking at currently. Sometimes I like to leave it alone because there's lot of pointless and repetiive whining n it though.kingstongraham said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
OMG are you still going?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I wonder if that would sound any less insane translated into cod Latin. Still, I'm sure the Daily Mail is really happy with its £1m investment.0 -
A graph for you to all complain about.
https://x.com/mattholehouse/status/1690469037484994560?s=46&t=Q7O5dnx-0MXQv9qE3vz1vg0 -
rick_chasey said:
A graph for you to all complain about.
https://x.com/mattholehouse/status/1690469037484994560?s=46&t=Q7O5dnx-0MXQv9qE3vz1vg
I'd not be complaining if I were Irish.
I wonder what happened in 2016...0 -
Why would we all complain about that graph?rick_chasey said:A graph for you to all complain about.
https://x.com/mattholehouse/status/1690469037484994560?s=46&t=Q7O5dnx-0MXQv9qE3vz1vg
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