BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Maybe but if you don't have a clue what it is at the point of ordering then it could have been anything. Who knows, maybe the Germans like stuff that we do? Quelle surprise!rick_chasey said:Sounds positively British.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Oh no doubt.
My experience on Germany is they might as well be asking me "have you eaten pork today, yet?".0 -
I tried a local Bratwurst once. It was the only pork dish that I had.rick_chasey said:Oh no doubt.
My experience on Germany is they might as well be asking me "have you eaten pork today, yet?".
Different people with different experiences and opinions.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
(I should confess, it is also a joke with my sister as when she lived there the butcher down the road was called, to translate "have you eaten pork today, yet?" and indeed, she would ring me and complain about the vast amount of pork everyone seemed to eat).pblakeney said:
I tried a local Bratwurst once. It was the only pork dish that I had.rick_chasey said:Oh no doubt.
My experience on Germany is they might as well be asking me "have you eaten pork today, yet?".
Different people with different experiences and opinions.
AFAIK Britain is one of the few European countries where pork isn't the most consumed meat. (It's chicken).0 -
Mmmm! Bratwurst!0
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Rather worrying development in Holland.
She was supposed to be very good by all accounts.0 -
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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This headine feels misleading.
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🤣🤣🤣The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Didn't want to click on the link: did it involve Kate opening an onlyfans account?================================
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Spoiker: it's not a £12 trillion trade boost.wakemalcolm said:Didn't want to click on the link: did it involve Kate opening an onlyfans account?
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Is that like a spoiler?kingstongraham said:
Spoiker: it's not a £12 trillion trade boost.wakemalcolm said:Didn't want to click on the link: did it involve Kate opening an onlyfans account?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's more like a spolier.Stevo_666 said:
Is that like a spoiler?kingstongraham said:
Spoiker: it's not a £12 trillion trade boost.wakemalcolm said:Didn't want to click on the link: did it involve Kate opening an onlyfans account?
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As I've said before, it's business as usual on the cross border logistics front.TheBigBean said:Customs processing has become quite slick. From the Times.
https://archive.is/V9O9K"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
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We, as companies, are streamlining the paperwork and red tape as best we can. Pragmatism always wins out.
It is still at a huge cost and time to business’. A massively disingenuous article.
In summary ‘it’s not as shit as it was’.0 -
I do like your posts from the front line.skyblueamateur said:We, as companies, are streamlining the paperwork and red tape as best we can. Pragmatism always wins out.
It is still at a huge cost and time to business’. A massively disingenuous article.
In summary ‘it’s not as censored as it was’.
Economic theory says that the free market finds the most efficient way of doing business and that Govt interference makes it less so.
The people who argue that a worse trade deal makes no difference are the same people who argue the opposite about other improved trade deals.0 -
Thank you.surrey_commuter said:
I do like your posts from the front line.skyblueamateur said:We, as companies, are streamlining the paperwork and red tape as best we can. Pragmatism always wins out.
It is still at a huge cost and time to business’. A massively disingenuous article.
In summary ‘it’s not as censored as it was’.
Economic theory says that the free market finds the most efficient way of doing business and that Govt interference makes it less so.
The people who argue that a worse trade deal makes no difference are the same people who argue the opposite about other improved trade deals.
I have nothing against the trade deals being done but for most SME’s they are never going to be a substitute for being in the single market.
Pre-Brexit I could send a parcel to the continent for £5.95, that is now £25 plus customs clearance charges and duty. That would be £75-£100 to send to Australia.
With an average order value of between £150-£300 you can see why trade deals with countries on the other side of the world are of no use to companies like mine.0 -
Presumably what goes in the parcel is influenced by making the admin as simple as possible?skyblueamateur said:
Thank you.surrey_commuter said:
I do like your posts from the front line.skyblueamateur said:We, as companies, are streamlining the paperwork and red tape as best we can. Pragmatism always wins out.
It is still at a huge cost and time to business’. A massively disingenuous article.
In summary ‘it’s not as censored as it was’.
Economic theory says that the free market finds the most efficient way of doing business and that Govt interference makes it less so.
The people who argue that a worse trade deal makes no difference are the same people who argue the opposite about other improved trade deals.
I have nothing against the trade deals being done but for most SME’s they are never going to be a substitute for being in the single market.
Pre-Brexit I could send a parcel to the continent for £5.95, that is now £25 plus customs clearance charges and duty. That would be £75-£100 to send to Australia.
With an average order value of between £150-£300 you can see why trade deals with countries on the other side of the world are of no use to companies like mine.0 -
Yes and no I suppose. We have quite a wide product range. Unfortunately you pay charges on how many commodity codes you send. Can get expensive.
It’s just a massive ball-ache to be honest. We were starting to gain a foothold on the continent and were expanding nicely. The majority of that has been lost now apart from the larger distributors.
Without setting up a branch on the continent there is no way around this.
I would imagine there are a lot of businesses in a similar situation.
The frustration is that articles like the above only really focus on multinational businesses who have the capital and ability to open branches. SME’s are always an after thought.0 -
Whereas it is in my experience, hence the comment.skyblueamateur said:Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Something not right about that article
It often quoted figure for the NI Protocol is £500 million a year.
But we've fixed GB EU trade for £111 million
Something doesn't stack up“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Yeah man. Different levels of business. Always find your experiences interesting 👍Stevo_666 said:
Whereas it is in my experience, hence the comment.skyblueamateur said:Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
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Maybe it's down to scale of operation. We also did a lot of prep work and I was in the thick of managing that.skyblueamateur said:
Yeah man. Different levels of business. Always find your experiences interesting 👍Stevo_666 said:
Whereas it is in my experience, hence the comment.skyblueamateur said:Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think it's interesting that some of the Brexit support was linked to general anti globalisation feeling, when by and large the impact of Brexit is much more manageable for multinationals compared to SMEs.skyblueamateur said:Yes and no I suppose. We have quite a wide product range. Unfortunately you pay charges on how many commodity codes you send. Can get expensive.
It’s just a massive ball-ache to be honest. We were starting to gain a foothold on the continent and were expanding nicely. The majority of that has been lost now apart from the larger distributors.
Without setting up a branch on the continent there is no way around this.
I would imagine there are a lot of businesses in a similar situation.
The frustration is that articles like the above only really focus on multinational businesses who have the capital and ability to open branches. SME’s are always an after thought.2 -
We did a huge amount of prep work and have the process as streamlined as possible. It’s the increased costs that can’t be mitigated.Stevo_666 said:
Maybe it's down to scale of operation. We also did a lot of prep work and I was in the thick of managing that.skyblueamateur said:
Yeah man. Different levels of business. Always find your experiences interesting 👍Stevo_666 said:
Whereas it is in my experience, hence the comment.skyblueamateur said:Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
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Most businesses aren't multinationals. It's not surprising that your firm has seen less impact as you were already trading across multiple markets. Scale is also obviously an advantage - I think you said you had a team on it for a few months. For an SME there just aren't the resources to do that.Stevo_666 said:
Whereas it is in my experience, hence the comment.skyblueamateur said:Not in my experience. Although improved it is still taking twice as long and at a much more expensive rate. It’s stabilised and is better then it was but to say it’s as efficient as pre Brexit is utter, utter nonsense.
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I think the 111 million was spent just on upgrades to the eurotunnel port.tailwindhome said:
Something not right about that article
It often quoted figure for the NI Protocol is £500 million a year.
But we've fixed GB EU trade for £111 million
Something doesn't stack up0