BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 7,928
    edited February 2023
    And sheep and cows.
  • Goats
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 7,928
    edited February 2023
    Grass snakes
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,538
    Feel free to try a grass fed diet. I think it might even improve your posting.
  • I still think if a horse can just live of grass, what's all the hoo-ha?

    Are you a horse?
  • I still think if a horse can just live of grass, what's all the hoo-ha?

    Are you a horse?
    No
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,221

    I still think if a horse can just live of grass, what's all the hoo-ha?

    Are you a horse?
    No
    Didn’t you mean nay?
  • If a horse is basically made of grass, what's the big problem with eating it?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,221

    I still think if a horse can just live of grass, what's all the hoo-ha?

    We’re a bunch of horse eaters remember so indirectly we do live off grass. Just need a few tomatoes with a salad on the side.
  • Pross said:

    I still think if a horse can just live of grass, what's all the hoo-ha?

    We’re a bunch of horse eaters remember so indirectly we do live off grass. Just need a few tomatoes with a salad on the side.
    That's actually a fair point. I do find that fascinating.

    The evolutionary side over time, how that situation has developed.

    No question existence is incredible, we're so damn lucky to have been afforded this liberty.
  • Why us? What are us?
  • Is our existence it for us, but it seems so special and real, so what's the point?
  • Fascinating
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,017

    Is our existence it for us, but it seems so special and real, so what's the point?

    .
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 19,675
    Are we sure that we aren't caught in some sort of metaverse AI satire?

    By Friday morning Tesco’s website had sold out of turnips, offering shoppers the option of a swede instead.


    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/24/apples-pears-uk-food-shortage-farmers-leeks
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 19,675
    FWIW, I'm currently enjoying the smell of carrots & swede boiling, which will soon be mashed with butter, cream and black pepper.

    Takes me back to primary school days, when I learned to like swede, as no-one else seemed to like it, and so I could have as much as I liked. I guess I've always been a greedy pig, as hungry as a horse.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 19,675
    Seems we haven't even got enough turnips for a turnip winter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnip_Winter
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,662
    pangolin said:

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    What I don't get is how anybody could think it could be anything oher than as you describe.

    In cycling terms it is like somebody arguing it is better to not ride in the peloton. Yes there are specific examples (ie crashes) that they can point to but over the course of a race, season career it is not the case.

    Now imagine if INEOS announced they were fed up riding on the front and were going to leave the peloton and do their own thing in each race.
    Each year we save the peleton thousands of watts. Lets give those watts to Geraint Thomas.
    That would end in a crash too...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,221

    Are we sure that we aren't caught in some sort of metaverse AI satire?

    By Friday morning Tesco’s website had sold out of turnips, offering shoppers the option of a swede instead.


    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/24/apples-pears-uk-food-shortage-farmers-leeks
    This is going to confuse Scots!
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 560
    edited February 2023
    Should be -
    Turnip orange
    Swede white

    Meanwhile I can assure you that Tim (quoted in that Guardian article) is a man who knows about leeks.



  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,017
    edited February 2023
    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited February 2023
    pblakeney said:

    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    And the high street is being killed off also by being useless. They never have what you go in for. Choice is appalling. How often have I heard “you’ll have to check the website”

    Town is heaving every time I go in, so the appetite to shop is there.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,765

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,212
    Stevo_666 said:



    Yebbut, it's all about freeze peach innit.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310

    Slight shortage of tomatoes is a food security issue?

    OK, so we can get by with turnips now, but maybe running out of a fairly common foodstuff, when it seems that nowhere else is having a problem, might be a symptom of a system that is slightly broken. Might it not be wise to see if there are reasons for this disruption, even if it's just out-of-season salad plants this time?

    Still, on the plus side, we're giving the rest of the world something to laugh at.
    UK (and Dutch) farmers decided not to grow tomatoes this winter due to energy costs. If the government had offered financial assistance, they could still have grown tomatoes. Is this something the UK government should have done?

    I don't think they should have on the basis that out of season veg is not a food security issue.

    Nonetheless, I admire the ability of people to link any event to a hobby horse. Rick will be along soon to explain how a tomato shortage should be blamed on baby boomers.

    Problems with supply from Europe are made worse by the extra complexity that Brexit introduced - it's fairly obvious. Any strains to this system will strain supply to Britain more than supply to the rest of the EU.

    You can say that this is irrelevant because that's the world we now live in, which is also true.
    I was responding to a food security tweet. Ireland seems to have same food security issues.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/food/2023/02/21/supply-of-vegetables-to-ireland-disrupted-by-poor-weather-and-energy-costs/
    About that picture of empty Irish shelves... has something happened I haven't heard about?




    They do look like £ signs although it is hard to see. Lazy journalism.
    There are no Sainsbury stores in Ireland
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,017

    pblakeney said:

    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    And the high street is being killed off also by being useless. They never have what you go in for. Choice is appalling. How often have I heard “you’ll have to check the website”

    Town is heaving every time I go in, so the appetite to shop is there.

    This is the high street's death throes.
    The town is heaving of people with nothing better to do. #lackofimagination
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    And the high street is being killed off also by being useless. They never have what you go in for. Choice is appalling. How often have I heard “you’ll have to check the website”

    Town is heaving every time I go in, so the appetite to shop is there.

    This is the high street's death throes.
    The town is heaving of people with nothing better to do. #lackofimagination
    None sense. The high street *as you know it* is dying, it’s becoming something else #lackofimagination
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,765
    orraloon said:

    Stevo_666 said:



    Yebbut, it's all about freeze peach innit.
    Very witty :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,017

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    And the high street is being killed off also by being useless. They never have what you go in for. Choice is appalling. How often have I heard “you’ll have to check the website”

    Town is heaving every time I go in, so the appetite to shop is there.

    This is the high street's death throes.
    The town is heaving of people with nothing better to do. #lackofimagination
    None sense. The high street *as you know it* is dying, it’s becoming something else #lackofimagination
    Yeah, hairdressers, barbers, nail bars, tattoo parlours, charity shops, chain cafes and takeaways. You are welcome to it.
    I'd be more accepting if those going "shopping" admitted that they are just going to the pub/bar.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Conclusion - This is not a Brexit issue, it is a supermarket issue. First they started the rot on the high street* now they have started the rot in farming. 👏👏👏

    *The internet will finally kill off high street shopping.

    So my sister is a fruit & veg buyer at a supermarket.

    Brexit is a constant challenge, that they're working hard at to overcome.

    To say otherwise is just not true. Just because they can work around it, doesn't mean it isn't a hindrance.

    That isn't up for discussion.

    Are the shortages caused by Brexit? No.

    Is dealing with the shortages more challenging because of Brexit? Yes.

    Does it make the UK's food import situation more secure? No. The opposite.

    And the high street is being killed off also by being useless. They never have what you go in for. Choice is appalling. How often have I heard “you’ll have to check the website”

    Town is heaving every time I go in, so the appetite to shop is there.

    This is the high street's death throes.
    The town is heaving of people with nothing better to do. #lackofimagination
    None sense. The high street *as you know it* is dying, it’s becoming something else #lackofimagination
    Yeah, hairdressers, barbers, nail bars, tattoo parlours, charity shops, chain cafes and takeaways. You are welcome to it.
    I'd be more accepting if those going "shopping" admitted that they are just going to the pub/bar.
    Places where people congregate and socialise, heavens.