BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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Is this thing on?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
'scuse my ignorance but is N.I. an experiment in how successful a country can run itself without politicians?tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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Is this thing on?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
"Deadline".tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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I meant to post that it is both amazing and horrifying that even among people interested in Brxit that NI has dropped completely off the radar again...tailwindhome said:
Is this thing on?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Its an experiment in having politicians but no politic decisions or accountabilitypblakeney said:
'scuse my ignorance but is N.I. an experiment in how successful a country can run itself without politicians?tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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Is this thing on?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
This lack of political decision making will come to a head again next week
Just before Stormont collapsed, they moved legislation to change organ donation to opt-out rather than opt-in. A law with unanimous support
However the final legislative stage wasn't complete and without it the law lapses
This law is known as Daithi's law after the young boy who's illness requires a transplant.
Daithi and his parents have, quite reasonably, been in the media for a month now, wanting to know what everyone is playing at.
So the DUP are scrambling to get it completed at Westminster
Sinn Fein are recalling the Assembly to debate the issue....which can only get as far as attempting to elect a speaker before the recall debate comes to an end
This is just one very public example of how paralysis has taken hold.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I was going to say ends up being the same and ask how it was working out until reading about the boy. Must be time to turf out the lot of them.tailwindhome said:
Its an experiment in having politicians but no politic decisions or accountabilitypblakeney said:
'scuse my ignorance but is N.I. an experiment in how successful a country can run itself without politicians?tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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Is this thing on?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
from day one there should have been irrevocable loss of any salary/other payments to politicians who refused to participate, coupled with barring them from any eligibility from benefitstailwindhome said:
Its an experiment in having politicians but no politic decisions or accountabilitypblakeney said:
'scuse my ignorance but is N.I. an experiment in how successful a country can run itself without politicians?tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
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Is this thing on?
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That would focus their attention quite quickly.sungod said:
from day one there should have been irrevocable loss of any salary/other payments to politicians who refused to participate, coupled with barring them from any eligibility from benefitstailwindhome said:
Its an experiment in having politicians but no politic decisions or accountabilitypblakeney said:
'scuse my ignorance but is N.I. an experiment in how successful a country can run itself without politicians?tailwindhome said:The Secretary of State for NI punts the deadline for formation of an Executive to 18th Jan 2024
*taps mic*
Is this thing on?
What they are doing is more or less going on strike.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
We're going back in...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/11/revealed-secret-cross-party-summit-held-to-confront-failings-of-brexit?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium#Echobox=1676136693We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Interesting. Easier for Starmer to sell that to his party than Sunak to his... having said that, if Sunak could, and sneak in a softening of the hard Brexit trajectory, it might make them a teensy weensy bit less unelectable, if it had a positive effect on trade. Though probably waaay too late for the next election, even if he got it snuck.0 -
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I'm expecting gnashing of teeth, given that I suspect that the loons wanted to use the NI Protocol as the weapon to blow everything up.
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I think you may have missed one small point in the article:ddraver said:
“rejoining the EU will not be on the agenda”
https://youtu.be/tbU3zdAgiX8
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Sherelle Jacobs has definitely gone to the dark side in the Telegraph. She's not even going for the "It's too early to tell" option.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/13/brexit-finally-dead-tory-party-will-soon-suffer-fate/The cliché goes that “time is running out” to make something of Brexit. But on Thursday Feb 9, the last speck of sand in the hourglass finally fell. It really is all over. And how fitting that Brexit was finally condemned to death in the gilded splendour of Ditchley Park – a discreet yet decadent retreat for this country’s most powerful since the reign of Elizabeth I.
Of course, the status-quo order is trying to be subtle, even polite, about its magnificent triumph over Leaver populism. Last week’s gathering – which saw executives of major banks commune with senior political figures on both sides of the Brexit debate, including Michael Gove and David Lammy – wasn’t particularly secret, despite some attempts to hype it up as so. It also took place under a fairly bland working title: “How can we make Brexit work better with our neighbours in Europe?”
But let’s not be naive. The exchange dwelled heavily on the fact that “Brexit is not delivering”, and there was broad support for a closer relationship with the EU. In other words, both sides agreed that the dream of meaningful divergence had fallen into a deep coma. A proverbial contract to switch off the project’s life-support machine was subsequently signed. Not that Brexit’s demise was all part of some elaborate plot; the project has been mortally wounded for some time, and there simply wasn’t the political will to save it.
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It's not passed Tarzan by that the Telegraph is getting a downer on Brexit.
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Is Talk TV like Talk radio for people who can't maintain attention without moving pictures?0
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I think it's a place where they put cameras in front of Piers Morgan and tell him there's people still watching him. Public service broadcasting in its truest sense.monkimark said:Is Talk TV like Talk radio for people who can't maintain attention without moving pictures?
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I wouldn't even know of it's existence if it wasn't for what is posted on this site.kingstongraham said:
I think it's a place where they put cameras in front of Piers Morgan and tell him there's people still watching him. Public service broadcasting in its truest sense.monkimark said:Is Talk TV like Talk radio for people who can't maintain attention without moving pictures?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Quite apart from anything, if I'm as cogent as Heseltine when I'm nearly 90 (if I make it that far), and have the energy to be impassioned about anything at all, I'll be delighted.1
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Doing its job perfectly then.pblakeney said:
I wouldn't even know of it's existence if it wasn't for what is posted on this site.kingstongraham said:
I think it's a place where they put cameras in front of Piers Morgan and tell him there's people still watching him. Public service broadcasting in its truest sense.monkimark said:Is Talk TV like Talk radio for people who can't maintain attention without moving pictures?
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Ain't that the truth?
Brexit will never be done, because the relationship with Europe is a process of constant negotiation, the terms of which are determined by strategic interests, history, economics and geography. Treaties can describe degrees of political closeness or distance, but they cannot alter the duty of a British prime minister to build trusting alliances with the nation’s nearest neighbours. There will, by necessity, one day be a prime minister who is capable of that task. It wasn’t Mr Johnson or Liz Truss. Nor, it seems, is it likely to be Mr Sunak.
Pragmatism will, eventually win out, even if the headbangers carry on banging their heads for a while yet.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/15/the-guardian-view-on-britain-and-europe-brexit-is-never-done0 -
Remember, they knew what they voted for.
And fish, never forget the fish. British fish.
It's just a hill. Get over it.0 -
Sunak en route to NI to present his deal to the NI parties
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Imagine having stones this big
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Telegraph trigger bingo.
He turns off commenting on his Twitter feed for good reason. 'Dissembling dangerous idiot' would be a kind description of his talents.0 -
Very much enjoying the Tory ERG MPs and grandees demanding Sunak stands firm in scrapping the Protocol they voted for in 2019“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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I can’t wait for the interviews with Sammy Wilson 😂0
https://youtu.be/aEA3RF5UZc0
