BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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How Boris & Varadkar agreed the Protocol
TL;DR
UK officials left Boris on his own with Varadkar for an hour and a half and Boris was taken to the cleaners
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/2022/10/01/brexit-backstop-blues-we-were-in-the-room-on-our-own-for-a-good-while-that-was-the-longest-time-we-were-together-just-the-two-of-us-over-tea-and-biscuits/“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
would you mind explaining why that means Boris was taken to the cleaners?tailwindhome said:How Boris & Varadkar agreed the Protocol
TL;DR
UK officials left Boris on his own with Varadkar for an hour and a half and Boris was taken to the cleaners
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/2022/10/01/brexit-backstop-blues-we-were-in-the-room-on-our-own-for-a-good-while-that-was-the-longest-time-we-were-together-just-the-two-of-us-over-tea-and-biscuits/0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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I read on here that Brexit was done so I'm confused now.0
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Pross said:
I read on here that Brexit was done so I'm confused now.
Who knows? The Tories certainly don't, and they wrote the script.0 -
As a fierce proponent of the fact that Brexit got done I can not remember how we are doing on other things that have not finishedbriantrumpet said:Pross said:I read on here that Brexit was done so I'm confused now.
Who knows? The Tories certainly don't, and they wrote the script.0 -
surrey_commuter said:
As a fierce proponent of the fact that Brexit got done I can not remember how we are doing on other things that have not finishedbriantrumpet said:Pross said:I read on here that Brexit was done so I'm confused now.
Who knows? The Tories certainly don't, and they wrote the script.
I can't remember if it's been suggested before, but I think we're in Schrödinger's Brexit: it is both done and not done. And will remain so for evermore.0 -
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Meh.focuszing723 said:JP Morgan has drawn up plans to shift work from offices in Germany into the City of London as finance companies brace for potential blackouts in the EU's biggest economy....
To do and plan for this, they must see power outages as a real concern.0 -
Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar0 -
There's some sleight of hand going on there that the hardline Unionists aren't going to buy for a secondTheBigBean said:Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I assumed you would tell me it was all part of some sequencing arrangement.tailwindhome said:
There's some sleight of hand going on there that the hardline Unionists aren't going to buy for a secondTheBigBean said:Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar0 -
Certainly seems uncommented upon that talks have recommenced without any change to the EU mandateTheBigBean said:
I assumed you would tell me it was all part of some sequencing arrangement.tailwindhome said:
There's some sleight of hand going on there that the hardline Unionists aren't going to buy for a secondTheBigBean said:Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar
Best guess, UK gov going for a deal on reduction of checks then an election called on the 28th Oct deadline in an attempt to bounce the DUP into agreeing
Won't work
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
.tailwindhome said:
Certainly seems uncommented upon that talks have recommenced without any change to the EU mandateTheBigBean said:
I assumed you would tell me it was all part of some sequencing arrangement.tailwindhome said:
There's some sleight of hand going on there that the hardline Unionists aren't going to buy for a secondTheBigBean said:Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar
Best guess, UK gov going for a deal on reduction of checks then an election called on the 28th Oct deadline in an attempt to bounce the DUP into agreeing
Won't work
What, not even if they put David Frost in to do the sweet-talking?0 -
Find someone who loves you as much as Unionists inexplicably love David Frostbriantrumpet said:.
tailwindhome said:
Certainly seems uncommented upon that talks have recommenced without any change to the EU mandateTheBigBean said:
I assumed you would tell me it was all part of some sequencing arrangement.tailwindhome said:
There's some sleight of hand going on there that the hardline Unionists aren't going to buy for a secondTheBigBean said:Turns out there isn't that much smuggling.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/northern-ireland-protocol-a-little-too-strict-says-leo-varadkar
Best guess, UK gov going for a deal on reduction of checks then an election called on the 28th Oct deadline in an attempt to bounce the DUP into agreeing
Won't work
What, not even if they put David Frost in to do the sweet-talking?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Saw Hal Cruttenden do a stand up gig last night.
Very good and very natural performer although surprisingly self exposing.
Anyhow, he did about 5 minutes of political stuff and absolutely evicerated the 2019 Tory and leave voters with real passion and pure rage whilst still being very funny.
Living in a northern leave voting town, I was curious how it would go down. Not a peep of dissent from anywhere despite otherwise lots of back and forth in a small, intimate venue.
I suspect for many of the leave voters, it was the first time they will have had their views or reasons robustly challenged and told outright how stupid some of the arguments were.
I still don’t advocate any attempt to rejoin for a bare minimum of a decade or two but it’s nice to hear the ongoing leave BS being openly challenged rather than just swerved to avoid confrontation.0 -
morstar said:
Saw Hal Cruttenden do a stand up gig last night.
Very good and very natural performer although surprisingly self exposing.
Anyhow, he did about 5 minutes of political stuff and absolutely evicerated the 2019 Tory and leave voters with real passion and pure rage whilst still being very funny.
Living in a northern leave voting town, I was curious how it would go down. Not a peep of dissent from anywhere despite otherwise lots of back and forth in a small, intimate venue.
I suspect for many of the leave voters, it was the first time they will have had their views or reasons robustly challenged and told outright how stupid some of the arguments were.
I still don’t advocate any attempt to rejoin for a bare minimum of a decade or two but it’s nice to hear the ongoing leave BS being openly challenged rather than just swerved to avoid confrontation.
I guess that if Labour get in, they will firstly at least stop the Tory rot of trying to diverge as far as possible from EU regs, and will rebuild (metaphorical) bridges. There will be a series of 'technical improvements' to make trade with the EU less lumpy/burdensome, and a few symbolic agreements (such as visas for touring musicians).
Ironically, should that happen, and as things (inevitably?) pick up from the carnage unleashed by the Tory vandals who are trying to smash everything, improvements might become linked in people's minds with the thawing of the UK-EU relationship.. and then, who knows? They might realise that the EU never was the evil thing they had been persuaded it is. The opinion polls suggest that the 'red wall' voters now know that they were sold a pup, and have been thoroughly betrayed... as we knew they would be.0 -
Wehay, as predicted on this very thread.
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I guess the more hardcore Brexity the Tories are, the more ammo they can throw at Labour when they make more pragmatic policies towards Europe.
Just don’t call anybody loons on here or your post will be deleted.
Sensitive souls these Brexit types.0 -
Whoulda thunk...
https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/engineers-raise-concerns-over-proposed-switch-to-imperial-measurements-13-10-2022/We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver said:
FFS, I'd not twigged that Rees-Smug's antediluvian instincts were being put into actual proposals for this sort of stuff. It's the absolute opposite of progress and wanting to be part of global business.0 -
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As a (kind of) Civil Engineer, I have come across imperial units once in my career - the drawings for an existing building that we were extending.
No engineer is going to start using yards, feet and inches for measuring or calculating, it would drive you mad.briantrumpet said:ddraver said:
FFS, I'd not twigged that Rees-Smug's antediluvian instincts were being put into actual proposals for this sort of stuff. It's the absolute opposite of progress and wanting to be part of global business.0 -
That would be assuming that JRM exists in the same world as us, he doesn't.monkimark said:As a (kind of) Civil Engineer, I have come across imperial units once in my career - the drawings for an existing building that we were extending.
No engineer is going to start using yards, feet and inches for measuring or calculating, it would drive you mad.briantrumpet said:ddraver said:
FFS, I'd not twigged that Rees-Smug's antediluvian instincts were being put into actual proposals for this sort of stuff. It's the absolute opposite of progress and wanting to be part of global business.
It's not going to happen.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
But this man is a cabinet minister.pblakeney said:
That would be assuming that JRM exists in the same world as us, he doesn't.monkimark said:As a (kind of) Civil Engineer, I have come across imperial units once in my career - the drawings for an existing building that we were extending.
No engineer is going to start using yards, feet and inches for measuring or calculating, it would drive you mad.briantrumpet said:ddraver said:
FFS, I'd not twigged that Rees-Smug's antediluvian instincts were being put into actual proposals for this sort of stuff. It's the absolute opposite of progress and wanting to be part of global business.
It's not going to happen.
What dirt does he have on people for goodness sake?0
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