BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'd count 10 minutes as long. I drove 400 miles yesterday and didn't see a queue or out of use signs at any petrol station I passed Why do you think queues would be longer in a week's time when things are improving daily?Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
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Nothing. Just another job to get out the way while I had a bit of spare time. Then I can choose when to do those car journeys related to my house move.Pross said:
I'd count 10 minutes as long. I drove 400 miles yesterday and didn't see a queue or out of use signs at any petrol station I passed Why do you think queues would be longer in a week's time when things are improving daily?Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
I'm just waiting for customs boy to come back and complete the other half of the tag team."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Things are still shitty in London and South East. I was able to fuel (empty tank) yesterday after a queue of 20 mins. I was lucky with timing as the queue was much bigger when I leftPross said:
I'd count 10 minutes as long. I drove 400 miles yesterday and didn't see a queue or out of use signs at any petrol station I passed Why do you think queues would be longer in a week's time when things are improving daily?Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
The first two petrol stations I passed were still closed and had been closed solidly for 3 days at least. Things aren't really showing signs of improving where I am.0 -
What used to be time wasted travelling was time spent riding in the summer, and will be time spent on the turbo in the winter. My health and well being is much improved without using any extra personal time or impacting on work. Win, win.webboo said:
Never mind the interweb, its those of you spending time on the turbo rather than going into the office. According to Oliver Dowden minister for something or other.pblakeney said:
Maybe they don't spend as much time on the internet.elbowloh said:
How is productivity measured?TheBigBean said:
France is far more productive than the UK. What do they do in their hospitals? Also, modern hospitals are designed and built to be easier to clean, so there is some efficiency there.rjsterry said:
What will increase productivity? Automation is only applicable to a small section of low paid jobs. How do you increase productivity when cleaning hospitals?TheBigBean said:
The expetation is that it will increase productivity and the differential being higher earners and lower earners will reduce.rjsterry said:
It's not resisting paying people more. It's resisting the idea that restricting immigration will magically create all the money to fund this mass pay rise.TheBigBean said:
I imagine he envisages more automation due to the cost of hiring low skilled workers. It's amazing how much people want to resist this.kingstongraham said:Hugo Rifkind again in today's Times:
When I hear Johnson say that he wants “a high skills, high wage economy”, I wonder who he envisages doing all the cleaning, killing, caring and carting around. You might say “British people, for more money” but that’s more “low-ish skills, high wage”, which is a completely different proposition.
How is France more productive when they have a shorter working week and have 2 hour lunch breaks or is that the secret?
Think of it as my contribution to saving the planet. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Seems to getting better today down my way as my OH drove past a couple of stations that had very short queues.elbowloh said:
Things are still shitty in London and South East. I was able to fuel (empty tank) yesterday after a queue of 20 mins. I was lucky with timing as the queue was much bigger when I leftPross said:
I'd count 10 minutes as long. I drove 400 miles yesterday and didn't see a queue or out of use signs at any petrol station I passed Why do you think queues would be longer in a week's time when things are improving daily?Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
The first two petrol stations I passed were still closed and had been closed solidly for 3 days at least. Things aren't really showing signs of improving nowhere I am."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
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Our local one is out of all fuel again now.0
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Ditto. Had a delivery yesterday and before that last Thursday. So availability is roughly 1 day in 4 if you don't mind wasting half an hour queueing.kingstongraham said:Our local one is out of all fuel again now.
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rjsterry said:
Ditto. Had a delivery yesterday and before that last Thursday. So availability is roughly 1 day in 4 if you don't mind wasting half an hour queueing.kingstongraham said:Our local one is out of all fuel again now.
Ah, the wartime spirit! Queuing at the butchers with your ration books, when there's been a delivery...0 -
Here’s a question.
So say you’re a centrist Tory. BoJo gets hit by a bus or whatever.
You’re going to run for PM.
What’s your vision for the post Brexit Britain?
Assuming you’re neither a believer in revivalism or declination - what are you gonna do to make it work?0 -
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are they?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
Good you acknowledge there are more issues on the way.
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So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.0 -
Evidence for the 'purely'?Stevo_666 said:Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
Saying that Brexit is a pile of poo and is causing extra problems as a result doesn't imply "purely". Unlike covid, it was avoidable (at least for the aspects which are exacerbating covid challenges), and the way it's being handled is fair game for criticism. Covid doesn't give Johnson and his team a get-out-of-jail card for lying and incompetence.
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People in NI didn't panic buy because they thought the protocol offered some protection. It doesn't.rick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.0 -
Yes…so…you’re almost there.TheBigBean said:
People in NI didn't panic buy because they thought the protocol offered some protection. It doesn't.rick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.0 -
TheBigBean said:
Project Fear. Did it include forecasts of worldwide supply chain issues, record gas prices, inflation in the US, record shipping costs etc.?briantrumpet said:TheBigBean said:
Did it include the rest of the world too?briantrumpet said:Yeah. Before your very eyes. J O'B can be up himself, but this is what we are witnessing.
Not sure what your "it" is.
Rafael Behr articulates it quite well. If the Tories engaged in a bit of honesty (haha, yes, I know, that boat sailed a long time ago), it might be a better tactic than their dishonest rewriting of history...Revolutions have a habit of turning nasty when their advertised benefits are slow to arrive. The more utopian the rhetoric that describes the destination, the less likely it is to be reached. The Tories could have used their conference this week to manage expectations, to re-engage with mundane concepts like geography and economic gravity. Instead they are celebrating an embarkation, setting sail for the promised land of Brexit, with only Boris Johnson’s hastily scrawled cartoon drawing of the world for a map.
Instead of which they pretend their Brexit decisions and tactics aren't making things worse than they needed to be, and pin the blame on everyone else, for, well, everything. I'd like to think that the British electorate will, eventually, see through their mendacity, but I shan't hold my breath.
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I would suggest when other countries are trying to bribe you it might be time to consider what your energy policy is.briantrumpet said:This reminds me of the Indiana Jones scene with the sabre and the gun.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/05/france-uk-jersey-eu-energy-supply-fishing-row-channel
Let me see... who's got more to lose? Some fish, or energy supplies...??
Oh, I forget, the UK has all the cards.0 -
Maybe it offered psychological protection from the preemptive purchasing.TheBigBean said:
People in NI didn't panic buy because they thought the protocol offered some protection. It doesn't.rick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
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Surely they're trying to extort us if anything not bribe us?john80 said:
I would suggest when other countries are trying to bribe you it might be time to consider what your energy policy is.briantrumpet said:This reminds me of the Indiana Jones scene with the sabre and the gun.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/05/france-uk-jersey-eu-energy-supply-fishing-row-channel
Let me see... who's got more to lose? Some fish, or energy supplies...??
Oh, I forget, the UK has all the cards.0 -
Yes, was hilarious getting my elderly mother in law back home to Bristol without a car. I'm not really interested in the causes, it's still a failure that basic supplies like fuel aren't available.Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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As always with Steven's nonsense I'm wondering if his responses would be the same if the headlines were reading "CORBYN POLICY RESULTS IN FUEL STORAGE"
Call me crazy, but I have a tinsey winsey suspicion they might not beWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Stevo_666 explained this last weekrick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
We're not d1cks like the South of England“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
Harsh.tailwindhome said:
Stevo_666 explained this last weekrick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
We're not d1cks like the South of England
Fair.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I also recommend this article
Bit of longer read but worth the time
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If you're a centrist tory you've been kicked out and are now in the libdems.rick_chasey said:Here’s a question.
So say you’re a centrist Tory. BoJo gets hit by a bus or whatever.
You’re going to run for PM.
What’s your vision for the post Brexit Britain?
Assuming you’re neither a believer in revivalism or declination - what are you gonna do to make it work?
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Don't you all keep a few bottles of petrol in the house just for old times sake?tailwindhome said:
Stevo_666 explained this last weekrick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
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Nasty!kingstongraham said:
Don't you all keep a few bottles of petrol in the house just for old times sake?tailwindhome said:
Stevo_666 explained this last weekrick_chasey said:
So why isn’t NI or the rest of the EU27 struggling with petrol?Stevo_666 said:
In a little while people will have forgotten about this and be whingeing about something else.rjsterry said:
Remember in the good old days when you could just drive to any petrol station at more or less any time and they would just have petrol? And the only queue would be at the till behind a guy deciding what fags he wanted.Stevo_666 said:
Wrong again. I knew I needed petrol in the next week and I knew I could get it, but didn't fancy queuing for long. So rather than do a petrol station tour, I acted on a handy piece of info. Hopefully that helps you stop assuming as well?Pross said:Going to a fuel station your mate has texted you to say "only" had 10 minute queues and in your own words brimming it when you apparently weren't looking to fill up sounds very panic buying to me (or at least the definition being used by those claiming such behaviour was panic buying 10 days ago when we were being told it was such people causing the problems and not a lack of drivers).
Also quite amusing that some people are still trying to convince themelves that this is purely Brexit related.
We're not d1cks like the South of England0
