BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

rick_chasey

Meanwhile,

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2021/oct/01/business-confidence-falls-petrol-crisis-energy-fuel-pigs-butchers-stock-markets-business-live?page=with:block-6156ad038f083dd418e94e20#block-6156ad038f083dd418e94e20

AO has told the City that profits this year will be lower than a year ago (when it received a boost from the pandemic).

UK sales in the last six months were affected by the “nationwide shortage of delivery drivers and ongoing disruption in the global supply chain”.

tailwindhome

I wonder what people who voted to shrink the economy back to pre FOM levels thought this would look like.

Pross

tailwindhome said:

I wonder what people who voted to shrink the economy back to pre FOM levels thought this would look like.

I thought it had been established that on the whole they realised but didn't care. They have a blue passport now so why would the economy be important?

kingstongraham

"The economy shrinking" is quite abstract. Not being able to buy a turkey at Christmas is less so.

rick_chasey

People think the economy happens to other people.

Pross

kingstongraham said:

"The economy shrinking" is quite abstract. Not being able to buy a turkey at Christmas is less so.

Maybe the reason the turkeys voted for Christmas because they knew it meant they wouldn't make it to the oven!

Edit - or people misunderstood when they voted for Brexit to to stop millions of Turks flocking to our country?

surrey_commuter

rick_chasey said:

People think the economy happens to other people.

I know I will get told off but how many people do you think understand want is meant by "the economy" and how many of them understand the significance of shaving 0.5% off ourlong term annual growth?

It enrages me when the Govt talk about things like freeports and try andquantify the impact when it is a fleabite on their self imposed Brexit damage.

These chancers fully understood the need to avoid bad optics but do not care that the economy is probably 5% smaller than it otherwise would have been. What does that mean - probably £40bn less tax revenues this year! which when you think about the fuss over putting up NI to raise £12bn is mind boggling.

And the £40bn was £35bn last year and will be £45bn next year

elbowloh

kingstongraham said:

"The economy shrinking" is quite abstract. Not being able to buy a turkey at Christmas is less so.

The Times is also reporting that there is a lack of butchers now and that your meat stuffing and pigs in blanket are also under threat.

So far then, Christmas could be "ruined" through:

No turkey
No stuffing
No Pig in blankets
No toys for the kiddies.

elbowloh

surrey_commuter said:

rick_chasey said:

People think the economy happens to other people.

I know I will get told off but how many people do you think understand want is meant by "the economy" and how many of them understand the significance of shaving 0.5% off ourlong term annual growth?

It enrages me when the Govt talk about things like freeports and try andquantify the impact when it is a fleabite on their self imposed Brexit damage.

These chancers fully understood the need to avoid bad optics but do not care that the economy is probably 5% smaller than it otherwise would have been. What does that mean - probably £40bn less tax revenues this year! which when you think about the fuss over putting up NI to raise £12bn is mind boggling.

And the £40bn was £35bn last year and will be £45bn next year

When I was up in Yorkshire, I noticed that Hornsea had a fairly well established freeport / outlet centre. Certainly looked like it was there pre-Brexit...

Dorset_Boy

The pigs in blankets issue was reported on during the summer.

elbowloh

Dorset_Boy said:

The pigs in blankets issue was reported on during the summer.

Well, it was reported again today.

kingstongraham

Dorset_Boy said:

The pigs in blankets issue was reported on during the summer.

I cancelled my Christmas this summer because of it.

ddraver

Can Bromley let the rest of us have some of theirs..?

surrey_commuter

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

elbowloh

We don't eat meat, so so long as we can get the ingredients for the nut roast i've made for the last 5 years straight, then we're golden.

rick_chasey

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

I suspect it's less about making it yourself as it is if you're doing it for a lot of people or for a party you don't want to spend a long time wrapping sausages in bacon.

rick_chasey

NFU on the radio this morning saying that there is a shortage of butchers and abattoir workers as they had mainly been from Eastern Europe and so are no longer in the UK.

Not that anyone cares but I've now worked on 4 roles which would have been London based but because of Brexit they are based on the continent this year.

For 2 of the 4 roles, the best option was lifting someone out of London and putting them on the continent (Ned and Denmark, in these instances).

pangolin

rick_chasey said:

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

I suspect it's less about making it yourself as it is if you're doing it for a lot of people or for a party you don't want to spend a long time wrapping sausages in bacon.

I can understand not wanting to make stuffing from scratch, but wrapping sausages in bacon is about as trivial as it gets. Plus you can use nicer sausages and bacon.

They do sell though so what do I know.

rick_chasey

pangolin said:

rick_chasey said:

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

I suspect it's less about making it yourself as it is if you're doing it for a lot of people or for a party you don't want to spend a long time wrapping sausages in bacon.

I can understand not wanting to make stuffing from scratch, but wrapping sausages in bacon is about as trivial as it gets. Plus you can use nicer sausages and bacon.

They do sell though so what do I know.

Look I used to mock ready grated cheese and then I got a young child and f*ck me it is a godsend, so I no longer throw shade on stuff like this.

ddraver

I'd say stuffing is much easier than pigs in blankets...

briantrumpet

ddraver said:

I'd say stuffing is much easier than pigs in blankets...

Trickier if you haven't got a turkey... though might depend on what kind of 'stuffing' you mean.

Jezyboy

rick_chasey said:

NFU on the radio this morning saying that there is a shortage of butchers and abattoir workers as they had mainly been from Eastern Europe and so are no longer in the UK.

Not that anyone cares but I've now worked on 4 roles which would have been London based but because of Brexit they are based on the continent this year.

For 2 of the 4 roles, the best option was lifting someone out of London and putting them on the continent (Ned and Denmark, in these instances).

So you're saying you've created two vacancies in London!

surrey_commuter

pangolin said:

rick_chasey said:

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

I suspect it's less about making it yourself as it is if you're doing it for a lot of people or for a party you don't want to spend a long time wrapping sausages in bacon.

I can understand not wanting to make stuffing from scratch, but wrapping sausages in bacon is about as trivial as it gets. Plus you can use nicer sausages and bacon.

They do sell though so what do I know.

I am wondering whether I could open a market stall in the days leading up to Xmas and sell pigs in blankets

or open up a chef school - I will teach them to make their own and they walk away with two dozen

rick_chasey

surrey_commuter said:

pangolin said:

rick_chasey said:

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

I suspect it's less about making it yourself as it is if you're doing it for a lot of people or for a party you don't want to spend a long time wrapping sausages in bacon.

I can understand not wanting to make stuffing from scratch, but wrapping sausages in bacon is about as trivial as it gets. Plus you can use nicer sausages and bacon.

They do sell though so what do I know.

I am wondering whether I could open a market stall in the days leading up to Xmas and sell pigs in blankets

or open up a chef school - I will teach them to make their own and they walk away with two dozen

Do it on some distressed wood and no-one will notice you're gauging the prices for very average meat.

ddraver

Ma Raver's Christmas Homemade Stuffing

Parsley and Thyme to taste
Breadcrumbs

Food processer

Shit-ton of butter and salt

Shove up bird.

Done!

elbowloh

I don't think its a case of not having anyone to wrap bacon round sausages, but not having enough bacon or sausages, because we don't have enough butchers.

rjsterry

surrey_commuter said:

Anybody too dumb to figure out how to make their own pigs in blankets would have voted Leave so fvckem

You've misunderstood. No butchers means several tens of thousands of pigs slaughtered and then binned. They will not enter the food chain. As DB points out this was a known problem and nothing has been done until farmers are literally running out of space to keep live pigs.

kingstongraham

elbowloh said:

I don't think its a case of not having anyone to wrap bacon round sausages, but not having enough bacon or sausages, because we don't have enough butchers.

I assume this as well. There was a pig farmer on the radio this morning with pigs that she can't get rid of because the processors (abattoirs) haven't got as much capacity as expected so there are welfare issues due to lack of space.

rick_chasey

kingstongraham said:

elbowloh said:

I don't think its a case of not having anyone to wrap bacon round sausages, but not having enough bacon or sausages, because we don't have enough butchers.

I assume this as well. There was a pig farmer on the radio this morning with pigs that she can't get rid of because the processors (abattoirs) haven't got as much capacity as expected so there are welfare issues due to lack of space.

It is both it is also lack of people who can do the labour intensive food stuff like wrapping bacon around sausages.

elbowloh

Its really pissing me off that minister after minister are coming out and saying there's no shortage of fuel, only a shortage of HGV drivers.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

The end result is the same.

To the people with little to no petrol in their tank, the people sitting in queues and the people who can't find an open garage, there is a shortage of fuel.