BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Those haulage businesses who are so busy they need more drivers? Why would they go under?john80 said:
I imagine giving cabotage to EU truckers whilst receiving nothing in return would be a deal breaker for a lot of voters. Particularly truckers who then would not see any of the local benefits of Brexit in mainly wage increases and better conditions due to a shortage of labour. As the German guy running for chancellor the other day said. Sort out your pay and working conditions and you won't have a shortage. Brexit has the potential to do for working people what no labour government has ever achieved on securing a living wage. Those businesses that can't should go under.tailwindhome said:
The EU didn't offer it because they didn't need to.TheBigBean said:
They did mention it during the negotiations. The EU didn't like it, because it was considered too much of a perk for a non-member even though it was in the interests of their drivers. The UK reciprocated the EU's position.tailwindhome said:Journalist on Times Radio with Matt Chorley complaining that no one mentioned haulage issues such as cabotage during the Brexit referendum campaign or during the negotiations
That my friends is how we got here
I mentioned this before.0 -
I think you need to take a step back and think about just how many bandwagons you are on the back of. Fuel distribution drivers are not in a shortage and the fuel issues were caused by the public. They are well paid and don't stay in their cabs. Hauliers are having to pay more for drivers as they have under invested in their business i.e. their drivers and training for decades. Do you really think that not being able to buy every line in a supermarket at any moment in time is a crisis. If so I would not like to see you survive a significant crisis. I would suggest to you that Boris knows the public mood better than you do as most certainly permitting cabotage without receiving it in return would alienate a large number of voters.rick_chasey said:
Is dealing with the supply chain crisis "receiving nothing"?john80 said:
I imagine giving cabotage to EU truckers whilst receiving nothing in return would be a deal breaker for a lot of voters.
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I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.1
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I for one had never heard the word until this week.kingstongraham said:I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.
The principle, yes; but not the word.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So nearly there... and the workers from bankrupt businesses will do what? And the businesses dependent upon those customers now unemployed will do what?john80 said:
I imagine giving cabotage to EU truckers whilst receiving nothing in return would be a deal breaker for a lot of voters. Particularly truckers who then would not see any of the local benefits of Brexit in mainly wage increases and better conditions due to a shortage of labour. As the German guy running for chancellor the other day said. Sort out your pay and working conditions and you won't have a shortage. Brexit has the potential to do for working people what no labour government has ever achieved on securing a living wage. Those businesses that can't should go under.tailwindhome said:
The EU didn't offer it because they didn't need to.TheBigBean said:
They did mention it during the negotiations. The EU didn't like it, because it was considered too much of a perk for a non-member even though it was in the interests of their drivers. The UK reciprocated the EU's position.tailwindhome said:Journalist on Times Radio with Matt Chorley complaining that no one mentioned haulage issues such as cabotage during the Brexit referendum campaign or during the negotiations
That my friends is how we got here
I mentioned this before.
Why break the economy by refusing to implement any sort of transition?0 -
Given up thread you've accused the public of not understanding JIT delivery, you're now expecting them to understand cabotage?
I'd struggle to see many voters really giving a toss about tanker drivers. Time and time again the British consumer shows they want whatever is cheapest with little concern for the societal consequences.0 -
On this thread, this is literally the only mention until the last week:pblakeney said:
I for one had never heard the word until this week.kingstongraham said:I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.
The principle, yes; but not the word.
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I think you'll find the beastie boys had a song about it.2
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I definitely read about it at the time.kingstongraham said:
On this thread, this is literally the only mention until the last week:pblakeney said:
I for one had never heard the word until this week.kingstongraham said:I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.
The principle, yes; but not the word.
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It was definitely discussed before.kingstongraham said:
On this thread, this is literally the only mention until the last week:pblakeney said:
I for one had never heard the word until this week.kingstongraham said:I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.
The principle, yes; but not the word.
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20472542#Comment_20472542
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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So, after an unexpected journey yesterday (no dwarves or hobits involved) i'm down to 30 miles of range. Passed 2 petrol stations on the journey, both out of fuel.
So, we're just holing up for a few days if we can and see if things improve. According to social media, all the local stations are out of fuel.0 -
Man with hammer reports seeing nails everywhere.tailwindhome said:0 -
in fairness he also said that the rules should be changed so that asylum seekers can work. It could be argued that is a stupidly obvious idea but somebody introduced a rule to say that they can'ttailwindhome said:0 -
I can't stand it, they never planned itJezyboy said:I think you'll find the beastie boys had a song about it.
I'm gonna set it straight, why goods are late
I can't move stuff when I come here
'Cause your post leave rules ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
Fridge has no sparkling water inside
Oh my God, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all, it's cabotage
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Is he saying he wants to drive a truck?tailwindhome said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I filed it with the mutual recognition of standards, which was refused so that people could give Polish Plumbers a kicking forgetting that plenty of British tradesmen, teachers, instructors etc would be f**ked too...tailwindhome said:
It was definitely discussed before.kingstongraham said:
On this thread, this is literally the only mention until the last week:pblakeney said:
I for one had never heard the word until this week.kingstongraham said:I bet politicians are sick of hearing about cabotage from voters on the doorstep.
The principle, yes; but not the word.
https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20472542#Comment_20472542We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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This is gold, pure internet goldkingstongraham said:
I can't stand it, they never planned itJezyboy said:I think you'll find the beastie boys had a song about it.
I'm gonna set it straight, why goods are late
I can't move stuff when I come here
'Cause your post leave rules ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
Fridge has no sparkling water inside
Oh my God, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all, it's cabotage
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Simon Clarke MP says Brexit is not to blame.
The public seem to disagree.0 -
Rightly or wrongly I suspect that won't get much sympathy from the majority of the UK public who will probably view fewer bankers as a good thing and wouldn't notice the impact on a daily basis even though there may cause long term problems that affect them indirectly without them being aware of the cause.rick_chasey said:International staff, mostly from the European Union, make up about a fifth of the 1.1 million people working in U.K. financial services. But Brexit is making it harder and more expensive to hire foreign staff, according to a report by TheCityUK, a lobby group, the City of London Corporation, and EY, the consultancy firm.“The challenge is that EU nationals are now in the immigration system,” said Seema Farazi, global immigration partner at EY and a co-author of the report. “The full impact has not been felt because the volumes have been muted by the pandemic.”
The changes also come with a soaring cost. Sponsoring employers would need to pay just over 21,000 pounds ($28,228) to transfer a worker, their partner and two children into the U.K. for five years under the Tier 2 visa process, according to earlier estimates by the City of London Corporation and EY.
The report also warned of problems with business travel. One anonymous participant in the report said they had difficulties organizing visas for staff in fintech -- where the U.K. workforce is 42% international -- to take part in accelerator labs.
“Could there be a crunch point?” said Celic. “Of course there could. This is absolutely fundamental to our long-term success.
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A shortage of bankers just increases the salaries for those in that industry
All good“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Hah.tailwindhome said:A shortage of bankers just increases the salaries for those in that industry
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33% still blame the last labour government, which does make you question the rest of the figures.elbowloh said:
Simon Clarke MP says Brexit is not to blame.
The public seem to disagree.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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One in three, one in three!!
Amazing. No wonder the Tories are not so interested in improving state school education.0 -
To be fair, I'm sure Thatcher would have scored highly if that response had been allowed.0
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