BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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I imagine everyone assumes they do.surrey_commuter said:0 -
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.0 -
The problem is that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.0
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I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.0 -
You don’t understand wordsdavid37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.0 -
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I got accused of what aboutery when we were taking about 2 things the UK government had done 😅pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.0 -
the point was that comments about what the UK GOV has achieved. That is to say your Government that was voted in by your countrymen and women were dismissed with whataboutery. A direct comparisson between the relative success of the UK government and the EU in getting vaccine is not the same.pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
Though for the purposes of sticking to the boris, bad; brexit; bad; EU good narrative, I can see how ignoring facts might be useful.
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You do not actually read the posts do you? No one, literally no one, on this thread has said the EU has done well regarding vaccines. On a similar note everyone has said the UK has done well on vaccines.david37 said:
the point was that comments about what the UK GOV has achieved. That is to say your Government that was voted in by your countrymen and women were dismissed with whataboutery. A direct comparisson between the relative success of the UK government and the EU in getting vaccine is not the same.pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
Though for the purposes of sticking to the boris, bad; brexit; bad; EU good narrative, I can see how ignoring facts might be useful.
However, vaccines are just one element of combatting COVID and one element of being an effective government.
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That first paragraph is a train wreck. What are you trying to say?david37 said:
the point was that comments about what the UK GOV has achieved. That is to say your Government that was voted in by your countrymen and women were dismissed with whataboutery. A direct comparisson between the relative success of the UK government and the EU in getting vaccine is not the same.pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
Though for the purposes of sticking to the boris, bad; brexit; bad; EU good narrative, I can see how ignoring facts might be useful.
(The second one is all over the place too but I can work that one out)- Genesis Croix de Fer
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BJ is sh!t as a Prime Minister. His peak was being on HIGNFY.david37 said:
the point was that comments about what the UK GOV has achieved. That is to say your Government that was voted in by your countrymen and women were dismissed with whataboutery. A direct comparisson between the relative success of the UK government and the EU in getting vaccine is not the same.pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
Though for the purposes of sticking to the boris, bad; brexit; bad; EU good narrative, I can see how ignoring facts might be useful.
This has nothing to do with the EU.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So in terms of UK gov't achievements in the pandemic are....david37 said:
the point was that comments about what the UK GOV has achieved. That is to say your Government that was voted in by your countrymen and women were dismissed with whataboutery. A direct comparisson between the relative success of the UK government and the EU in getting vaccine is not the same.pblakeney said:
I liked the comment about whataboutery then comparing UK Gov. to the EU.rick_chasey said:
I like the “still calling them bedwetters” but also “complaining about closing arguments down” effort.david37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
Though for the purposes of sticking to the boris, bad; brexit; bad; EU good narrative, I can see how ignoring facts might be useful.
top 5 highest death rate in the world. Highest body count in Europe. Worst performing G7 economy. Top 3 vaccine rollout in terms of timing and speed.0 -
david37 said:
ignoring facts might be useful.
The problem is still that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.
It's like saying a big success of Brexit is us not being in the Euro.0 -
you consistently post things that you clearly intend to be obnoxious and denigrate othersdavid37 said:
Its good to see youve adop ted the bedwetting phrase. We might still make a man of you yet. I note also that acknowledging that the british conservative government has been far more successful than the eu has elicited responses dismissing firstly the the gb gov success with yeah but whataboutery and now in a predictable return to form the labelling of those that have different views as a racist.surrey_commuter said:
Classic liberal socail media close down or move the conversation away techniques. V boring.
Sungod you should be capable of better too.
try not seeding your posts with deliberate slurs and insults, then people might be more willing to pay attention to your point of view
otherwise you get treated as a trollmy bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
Isn’t the only question whether David = Steveo after the bizarre reply to self the other day.0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Strange he got so much more active once Coopster disappearedmorstar said:Isn’t the only question whether David = Steveo after the bizarre reply to self the other day.
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I think the relevant point isn't that it is something that couldn't be done prior to Brexit, but that sometimes a collection of 27 countries trying to agree a common position isn't the best idea. If you see the article I posted in the coronavirus thread, Germany wanted to throw money at vaccines whilst some of the poorer countries didn't and preferred to go with cheaper vaccines. Neither of those positions are wrong, but they are incompatible and combined for no reason.kingstongraham said:david37 said:ignoring facts might be useful.
The problem is still that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.
It's like saying a big success of Brexit is us not being in the Euro.0 -
Agreed. And Hungary has gone Its own way already and approved other vaccines.TheBigBean said:
I think the relevant point isn't that it is something that couldn't be done prior to Brexit, but that sometimes a collection of 27 countries trying to agree a common position isn't the best idea. If you see the article I posted in the coronavirus thread, Germany wanted to throw money at vaccines whilst some of the poorer countries didn't and preferred to go with cheaper vaccines. Neither of those positions are wrong, but they are incompatible and combined for no reason.kingstongraham said:david37 said:ignoring facts might be useful.
The problem is still that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.
It's like saying a big success of Brexit is us not being in the Euro.0 -
We can see the same kind of thing here in the UK trying to get 4 parties to agree.TheBigBean said:
I think the relevant point isn't that it is something that couldn't be done prior to Brexit, but that sometimes a collection of 27 countries trying to agree a common position isn't the best idea. If you see the article I posted in the coronavirus thread, Germany wanted to throw money at vaccines whilst some of the poorer countries didn't and preferred to go with cheaper vaccines. Neither of those positions are wrong, but they are incompatible and combined for no reason.kingstongraham said:david37 said:ignoring facts might be useful.
The problem is still that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.
It's like saying a big success of Brexit is us not being in the Euro.0 -
Yes, indeed. Germany has bought more, Cyprus has asked Israel for help and Hungary has looked to Russia/China all in breach of their agreement.kingstongraham said:
Agreed. And Hungary has gone Its own way already and approved other vaccines.TheBigBean said:
I think the relevant point isn't that it is something that couldn't be done prior to Brexit, but that sometimes a collection of 27 countries trying to agree a common position isn't the best idea. If you see the article I posted in the coronavirus thread, Germany wanted to throw money at vaccines whilst some of the poorer countries didn't and preferred to go with cheaper vaccines. Neither of those positions are wrong, but they are incompatible and combined for no reason.kingstongraham said:david37 said:ignoring facts might be useful.
The problem is still that your mic drop success of brexit is a success of the British government that didn't need brexit.
It's like saying a big success of Brexit is us not being in the Euro.
The argument is that Hungary's approach is what they have been trying to avoid all along i.e. Russian/Chinese influence, but if that is the game, then the rich countries should have been buying for the poor countries.0 -
one handed while keeping a watch for the warden before replacing behind the cistern.elbowloh said:0 -
Warden or nursedarkhairedlord said:
one handed while keeping a watch for the warden before replacing behind the cistern.elbowloh said:0 -
Re Stevo =/<> David...
Do we not feel a less guarded alter ego may be possible?
I can't get past the bizarre reply to self the other day. I sometimes reply to my own posts but only to expand or clarify, not agree / disagree in the 3rd person.
I'm not convinced it is but I haven't ruled it out. Would bring new irony to the echo chamber retort if true.0 -
TBH I'm not sure that, err, some parties on here, while it might appeal to their sense of vanity as being able to pwn the libs and all that, have the nous to create and sustain an alter ego like that.0
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You saying he's not bright enough?bompington said:TBH I'm not sure that, err, some parties on here, while it might appeal to their sense of vanity as being able to pwn the libs and all that, have the nous to create and sustain an alter ego like that.
Ouch!The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
