BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Well, since you mentioned it...Stevo_666 said:
If you like. 'Trumps' doesn't have the most positive connotations these days.focuszing723 said:
Yes but my point trumps your point because I made the point in the first place.Stevo_666 said:
I'm making a different point, as I'm sure you're awarefocuszing723 said:
That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.Stevo_666 said:
The operative word in the article is 'world'.focuszing723 said:Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0
In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.
But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.
https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/
Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/01/11/the-british-right-needs-to-come-clean-about-its-links-with-trumpism
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I didn't mention that, but I believe there's already a separate thread for it.rick_chasey said:
Well, since you mentioned it...Stevo_666 said:
If you like. 'Trumps' doesn't have the most positive connotations these days.focuszing723 said:
Yes but my point trumps your point because I made the point in the first place.Stevo_666 said:
I'm making a different point, as I'm sure you're awarefocuszing723 said:
That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.Stevo_666 said:
The operative word in the article is 'world'.focuszing723 said:Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0
In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.
But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.
https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/
Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/01/11/the-british-right-needs-to-come-clean-about-its-links-with-trumpism"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Whatever. Not that interested."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people"
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yeprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people"
though early on trump et alia clearly learned from the brexiters that lies, rabble rousing and direct incitement, aided and amplified by right-wing press barons, were effective tools to divide and subvert civil society
they all invested effort in pulling in extremists, shifting politics away from the centre, delegitimizing/restricting honest media, attacking the judiciary, demonising opponents and normalising increasingly extreme positions
hungary, poland, turkey, usa, uk, same tactics, different degrees
lay down with dogs, get fleas
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I don't know, isn't their job to Schmooze the leader of your best Ally? To be honest I would have been more concerned if they had distanced themselves from him, almost half of all Americans would remember that, they expect the generic schmoozing.
I mean this doesn't look great without the right context.
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It's not a good look regardless.focuszing723 said:I don't know, isn't their job to Schmooze the leader of your best Ally? To be honest I would have been more concerned if they had distanced themselves from him, almost half of all Americans would remember that, they expect the generic schmoozing.
I mean this doesn't look great without the right context.
Though I doubt there are many reports of Blair looking to ape or be inspired by Ghedaffi, nor did Ghedaffi call Blair a "little Ghedaffi" like Trump called BoJo a "little Trump".0 -
U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson set himself on a collision course with the Chinese government with a thinly veiled attack on traditional medicine, which he said was to blame for the coronavirus pandemic.
The practice of using scales from the endangered pangolin to aid virility is “demented,” Johnson said at a meeting of world leaders focused on protecting nature on Monday.
“The coronavirus pandemic was the product of an imbalance in man’s relationship with the natural world,” Johnson said. “It originates from bats or pangolins, from the demented belief that if you grind up the scales of a pangolin you will somehow become more potent or whatever it is people believe.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/u-k-risks-china-spat-with-johnson-attack-on-demented-medicine
Trade deal talks could be interesting!0 -
Tbf, the trade in pangolin scales is technically illegal in China...however its not very well enforced.0
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How did Blair look when he was doing dodgy arms sales to Saudi that he knew involved big kick backs to Saudi royals. We often get UK officials to do stuff that is in our interests but are questionable. I guess this is why Corbyn was unelectable.rick_chasey said:
It's not a good look regardless.focuszing723 said:I don't know, isn't their job to Schmooze the leader of your best Ally? To be honest I would have been more concerned if they had distanced themselves from him, almost half of all Americans would remember that, they expect the generic schmoozing.
I mean this doesn't look great without the right context.
Though I doubt there are many reports of Blair looking to ape or be inspired by Ghedaffi, nor did Ghedaffi call Blair a "little Ghedaffi" like Trump called BoJo a "little Trump".0 -
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking.0 -
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
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Like I said, not really interested.kingstongraham said:
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Probably more of a concern is whether his ideology will go with him, given how close the election was.Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
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Speak for yourself that's not something I support.john80 said:
How did Blair look when he was doing dodgy arms sales to Saudi that he knew involved big kick backs to Saudi royals. We often get UK officials to do stuff that is in our interests but are questionable. I guess this is why Corbyn was unelectable.rick_chasey said:
It's not a good look regardless.focuszing723 said:I don't know, isn't their job to Schmooze the leader of your best Ally? To be honest I would have been more concerned if they had distanced themselves from him, almost half of all Americans would remember that, they expect the generic schmoozing.
I mean this doesn't look great without the right context.
Though I doubt there are many reports of Blair looking to ape or be inspired by Ghedaffi, nor did Ghedaffi call Blair a "little Ghedaffi" like Trump called BoJo a "little Trump".0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Like I said, not really interested.kingstongraham said:
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking.If Mr Johnson's classical education did not teach him the danger of playing with populist fire, the events of January 6th in Washington should have. America’s democracy and society may have sustained long-term damage. The Republican Party certainly has. If the Tories want to avoid similar peril to the nation and the party, they need to change the way they behave, and not just by pretending they never met Mr Trump.
In America, some on the right are trying to work out how it got captured by Mr Trump and ensure that it never happens again. “Never Trumpers” have been trying to formulate a new conservatism ever since their nemesis appeared on the scene. Others have been joining them as Mr Trump became progressively unhinged. Marcio Rubio, a senator for Florida, is trying to flesh out a new sort of blue-collar conservatism. The Manhattan Institute is studying ways to revive conservatism in the Democrats’ urban heartlands.
The Tories need to engage in this debate and to develop some real policies to solve the real problems on which populism feeds. Mr Johnson has rightly identified “levelling up”—boosting prosperity outside London and the south-east of England—as an important focus for his government, but has neglected to explain how this end might be achieved. Instead of devoting his considerable talents to divisive rhetoric, he should focus on boring, serious stuff that makes Britain better.
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how about the industrial revolution? (capitalism)surrey_commuter said:
I don’t agree with your analysis, can you give some examples.david37 said:
You do realise that most financial change means a small number of people benefiting at others expense? thats how it works in all systems. Especially communism.surrey_commuter said:
You have the wrong person- I never said that.david37 said:
I know you've said when i have a different opinion to you that you feel like it's a personal atttack but your point is vaccuous. Sure some will lose out but some will win. Flexibility and change is at the core of business.surrey_commuter said:
In fairness to UK traders they have only just found out what the new rules are and had been assured by their politicians that they would have the same or better access to the EU.darkhairedlord said:
Clearly we are no longer in the EU. Therefore any business that wants to stay competitive should look at changing their business model. There is no point moaning about how hard it is to movecgoods from the eu to the uk, then back out to the EU. We left the EU 11 months ago ffs.rick_chasey said:
Distribution hubs innit.surrey_commuter said:
why ship to GB when you are manufacturing in the EU?rick_chasey said:
Another autarky fan?darkhairedlord said:
Another one for the positives. M&S can make them in the UK or NI.kingstongraham said:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/08/percy-pigs-in-ireland-hit-by-brexit-red-tape-as-m-and-s-warns-of-tariffs
These are British Percy Pigs made in Germany, for British M&S stores. It's right they can't go to Ireland.
That's the point a lot of the specialists are making.
The deals like canada etc are all very well but they're not designed for goods to fly in and back out of the UK.
That's what's proving challenging, as in those situations tariffs do apply.
(this is if I've understood correctly).
The best brains the UK could assemble failed to grasp the significance of rules of origin so what hoped do the hundreds of thousands of SMEs have of working that out? I have less sympathy with M&S but does back up my point that people will not appreciate the SM until we leave.
It always has been. Brexit is another change and opportunity point. in life there are always losers. one needs only to look at the posts in here to realise that.
Change happens but this is an unnecessary change for the worse. Far more people will gain than lose.
Govt screwing up on rules of origin is not vacuous.
Anyway have you realised services aren’t included yet?
Are you ready to talk about the FTA not covering 80% of the UK economy and more importantly the big we have a huge surplus in?
the rise of communism in russia. (communism)
two ends of a spectrum, theyre quite well known, Im surprised you hadnt heard of them.
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well i would have thought that he is doing that, only your own blinkered position refuses to identify or acknowledge that BJ is about as right wing as tony blair.kingstongraham said:Stevo_666 said:
Like I said, not really interested.kingstongraham said:
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking.If Mr Johnson's classical education did not teach him the danger of playing with populist fire, the events of January 6th in Washington should have. America’s democracy and society may have sustained long-term damage. The Republican Party certainly has. If the Tories want to avoid similar peril to the nation and the party, they need to change the way they behave, and not just by pretending they never met Mr Trump.
In America, some on the right are trying to work out how it got captured by Mr Trump and ensure that it never happens again. “Never Trumpers” have been trying to formulate a new conservatism ever since their nemesis appeared on the scene. Others have been joining them as Mr Trump became progressively unhinged. Marcio Rubio, a senator for Florida, is trying to flesh out a new sort of blue-collar conservatism. The Manhattan Institute is studying ways to revive conservatism in the Democrats’ urban heartlands.
The Tories need to engage in this debate and to develop some real policies to solve the real problems on which populism feeds. Mr Johnson has rightly identified “levelling up”—boosting prosperity outside London and the south-east of England—as an important focus for his government, but has neglected to explain how this end might be achieved. Instead of devoting his considerable talents to divisive rhetoric, he should focus on boring, serious stuff that makes Britain better.
your response can you give me some examples etc etc school boy blah is no whats the point im not engaging you in this purility
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Delicious irony.david37 said:
well i would have thought that he is doing that, only your own blinkered position refuses to identify or acknowledge that BJ is about as right wing as tony blair.kingstongraham said:Stevo_666 said:
Like I said, not really interested.kingstongraham said:
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking.If Mr Johnson's classical education did not teach him the danger of playing with populist fire, the events of January 6th in Washington should have. America’s democracy and society may have sustained long-term damage. The Republican Party certainly has. If the Tories want to avoid similar peril to the nation and the party, they need to change the way they behave, and not just by pretending they never met Mr Trump.
In America, some on the right are trying to work out how it got captured by Mr Trump and ensure that it never happens again. “Never Trumpers” have been trying to formulate a new conservatism ever since their nemesis appeared on the scene. Others have been joining them as Mr Trump became progressively unhinged. Marcio Rubio, a senator for Florida, is trying to flesh out a new sort of blue-collar conservatism. The Manhattan Institute is studying ways to revive conservatism in the Democrats’ urban heartlands.
The Tories need to engage in this debate and to develop some real policies to solve the real problems on which populism feeds. Mr Johnson has rightly identified “levelling up”—boosting prosperity outside London and the south-east of England—as an important focus for his government, but has neglected to explain how this end might be achieved. Instead of devoting his considerable talents to divisive rhetoric, he should focus on boring, serious stuff that makes Britain better.
your response can you give me some examples etc etc school boy blah is no whats the point im not engaging you in this purility
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
david37 said:
well i would have thought that he is doing that, only your own blinkered position refuses to identify or acknowledge that BJ is about as right wing as tony blair.kingstongraham said:Stevo_666 said:
Like I said, not really interested.kingstongraham said:
The article was very forward looking. You should read it maybe.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is finished and so is Trumprick_chasey said:
You don't think the links to Trump that the current government celebrated until last week, when his anti-democratic fascistic tendencies were laid bare should be brushed under the carpet?Stevo_666 said:Whatever. Not that interested.
BoJo was widely reported to be and admirer of Trump's approach. He tried to build a relationship with Steve Bannon, who is a proper neo-fascist.
Gove got invited to the penthouse and referred to Trump as a "warm and generous friend"
Liam Fox was very protective of his link to Trumpland, even stooping so low as to get annoyed about a leak of his officials telling their UK bosses how much of a spanner he washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDF7XMaaxY
Let's not forget Brexiters often used the language that the Trumpian Republicans used, referring to remainers as 'traitors' and used the press to decry judges as "enemies of the people" You really should be more forward looking.If Mr Johnson's classical education did not teach him the danger of playing with populist fire, the events of January 6th in Washington should have. America’s democracy and society may have sustained long-term damage. The Republican Party certainly has. If the Tories want to avoid similar peril to the nation and the party, they need to change the way they behave, and not just by pretending they never met Mr Trump.
In America, some on the right are trying to work out how it got captured by Mr Trump and ensure that it never happens again. “Never Trumpers” have been trying to formulate a new conservatism ever since their nemesis appeared on the scene. Others have been joining them as Mr Trump became progressively unhinged. Marcio Rubio, a senator for Florida, is trying to flesh out a new sort of blue-collar conservatism. The Manhattan Institute is studying ways to revive conservatism in the Democrats’ urban heartlands.
The Tories need to engage in this debate and to develop some real policies to solve the real problems on which populism feeds. Mr Johnson has rightly identified “levelling up”—boosting prosperity outside London and the south-east of England—as an important focus for his government, but has neglected to explain how this end might be achieved. Instead of devoting his considerable talents to divisive rhetoric, he should focus on boring, serious stuff that makes Britain better.
your response can you give me some examples etc etc school boy blah is no whats the point im not engaging you in this purility
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Maybe. I'm sure there's a thread on here for discussing that sort of thing...focuszing723 said:
Probably more of a concern is whether his ideology will go with him, given how close the election was.Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I would use the Industrial Revolution as a change that benefited nearly everyonedavid37 said:
how about the industrial revolution? (capitalism)surrey_commuter said:
I don’t agree with your analysis, can you give some examples.david37 said:
You do realise that most financial change means a small number of people benefiting at others expense? thats how it works in all systems. Especially communism.surrey_commuter said:
You have the wrong person- I never said that.david37 said:
I know you've said when i have a different opinion to you that you feel like it's a personal atttack but your point is vaccuous. Sure some will lose out but some will win. Flexibility and change is at the core of business.surrey_commuter said:
In fairness to UK traders they have only just found out what the new rules are and had been assured by their politicians that they would have the same or better access to the EU.darkhairedlord said:
Clearly we are no longer in the EU. Therefore any business that wants to stay competitive should look at changing their business model. There is no point moaning about how hard it is to movecgoods from the eu to the uk, then back out to the EU. We left the EU 11 months ago ffs.rick_chasey said:
Distribution hubs innit.surrey_commuter said:
why ship to GB when you are manufacturing in the EU?rick_chasey said:
Another autarky fan?darkhairedlord said:
Another one for the positives. M&S can make them in the UK or NI.kingstongraham said:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/08/percy-pigs-in-ireland-hit-by-brexit-red-tape-as-m-and-s-warns-of-tariffs
These are British Percy Pigs made in Germany, for British M&S stores. It's right they can't go to Ireland.
That's the point a lot of the specialists are making.
The deals like canada etc are all very well but they're not designed for goods to fly in and back out of the UK.
That's what's proving challenging, as in those situations tariffs do apply.
(this is if I've understood correctly).
The best brains the UK could assemble failed to grasp the significance of rules of origin so what hoped do the hundreds of thousands of SMEs have of working that out? I have less sympathy with M&S but does back up my point that people will not appreciate the SM until we leave.
It always has been. Brexit is another change and opportunity point. in life there are always losers. one needs only to look at the posts in here to realise that.
Change happens but this is an unnecessary change for the worse. Far more people will gain than lose.
Govt screwing up on rules of origin is not vacuous.
Anyway have you realised services aren’t included yet?
Are you ready to talk about the FTA not covering 80% of the UK economy and more importantly the big we have a huge surplus in?
the rise of communism in russia. (communism)
two ends of a spectrum, theyre quite well known, Im surprised you hadnt heard of them.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
It remains to be seen how long his wrecking ball continues to fly around, even when he's gone (wherever he goes).
And we'll be dealing with the fallout (and management) of Brexit for a good while yet... well, for as long as we're dealing with the EU under Brexit's evolving terms... in the same way that the GFA still is pertinent to Northern Ireland... they are contracts for future relations.0 -
Do you think he is more of a problem/risk to us as the head of state of a global superpower, or after he is no longer in that position?briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
It remains to be seen how long his wrecking ball continues to fly around, even when he's gone (wherever he goes).
And we'll be dealing with the fallout (and management) of Brexit for a good while yet... well, for as long as we're dealing with the EU under Brexit's evolving terms... in the same way that the GFA still is pertinent to Northern Ireland... they are contracts for future relations.
That should help you get my point."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
He has children with pretensions to office. Brexit gets reviewed every 5 years. We're not shot of either, more's the pity.Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry said:
He has children with pretensions to office. Brexit gets reviewed every 5 years. We're not shot of either, more's the pity.Stevo_666 said:
Will he still be president by the end of this month?briantrumpet said:
You reckon?Stevo_666 said:Brexit is finished and so is Trump
At the moment, the Republicans seem not to know how to distance themselves from his ethos, not least as he's whipped up his 'base' into a Jim Crow frenzy, and the elected Republicans are petrified of losing their support - Trump's still got a 33% rating, which isn't that far off what the Nazis had in 1930s Germany.
Don't get me wrong - I'd very much like him to be but a memory, but I can't see that happening for some while... the genie's out of the box.0 -
It will be interesting to how much goes back in the box over the next 4 (8?) years.
As I hinted at up thread, I can see Cruz et al attempting to make a clean break now and with nowhere to go, the trolls may go back under their rocks again to talk about the Illuminati on 4Chan.
But also...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
- @ddraver0
