BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ddraver said:
    Haha I was about to post the same line "welcome to the Brexit, sir"

    My grandmother when she helped look after me here a few times always used to refer to Tescos as "de tesco".

  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    ddraver said:

    elbowloh said:



    This is clearly an economic decision to make us buy their bitterballen and frikandel on arrival.

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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    elbowloh said:

    ddraver said:

    elbowloh said:



    This is clearly an economic decision to make us buy their bitterballen and frikandel on arrival.

    Firm support here...
    Sports bra?
    depends how many you eat...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,918

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is there a new estimate of what proportion of the exports to the EU it actually does cover? With the knowledge gained since it came into force?

    Around 42% according to this:
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/#:~:text=A%20surplus%20of%20%C2%A383,to%20the%20EU%20in%202019.
    Thanks, so it doesn't cover the 42% that is services - that's a larger number than I expected, to be honest.

    The other bit is what proportion of the 58% does it turn out not to cover?
    You also need to know how much of the 42% was covered under the EU and is no longer covered. In many cases there is nothing to stop an EU firm contracting a UK one for services.
  • The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    But look on the plus side.

    You are being conditioned to be more British.

    You will be more aware of being overseas than before and will have more opportunity to engage with the locals and become all the more aware of their limitations. As part of Eu, travel was far too easy.

    I suggest retiring to your room and admiring the blue hue of your passport.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    If I'm in Europe then I am on holiday.
    If on holiday then I am not watching TV.

    #noissue
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited January 2021
    pblakeney said:

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    If I'm in Europe then I am on holiday.
    If on holiday then I am not watching TV.

    #noissue
    You shoudn't be watching that foreign euro muck anyway. Good Morning Britain and Great British Bake-off for you 24/7
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    elbowloh said:

    pblakeney said:

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    If I'm in Europe then I am on holiday.
    If on holiday then I am not watching TV.

    #noissue
    You shoudn't be watching that foreign euro muck anyway. Good Morning Britain and Great British Bake-off for you 24/7
    I'd quite happily cancel all to air channels.
    Especially during the day. Life is too short.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    pblakeney said:

    elbowloh said:

    pblakeney said:

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    If I'm in Europe then I am on holiday.
    If on holiday then I am not watching TV.

    #noissue
    You shoudn't be watching that foreign euro muck anyway. Good Morning Britain and Great British Bake-off for you 24/7
    I'd quite happily cancel all to air channels.
    Especially during the day. Life is too short.
    BBC4 is great.
    Felt F1 2014
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  • Stevo_666 said:

    Is there a new estimate of what proportion of the exports to the EU it actually does cover? With the knowledge gained since it came into force?

    Around 42% according to this:
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/#:~:text=A%20surplus%20of%20%C2%A383,to%20the%20EU%20in%202019.
    Thanks, so it doesn't cover the 42% that is services - that's a larger number than I expected, to be honest.

    The other bit is what proportion of the 58% does it turn out not to cover?
    You also need to know how much of the 42% was covered under the EU and is no longer covered. In many cases there is nothing to stop an EU firm contracting a UK one for services.
    Steve0 misread the question and the 42% is the % of UK exports to the EU
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    elbowloh said:

    pblakeney said:

    elbowloh said:

    pblakeney said:

    The wins just keep on coming.
    Subscribe to UK sports streaming, such as Eurosport or BT?

    Will no longer work when you is in the EU.

    If I'm in Europe then I am on holiday.
    If on holiday then I am not watching TV.

    #noissue
    You shoudn't be watching that foreign euro muck anyway. Good Morning Britain and Great British Bake-off for you 24/7
    I'd quite happily cancel all to air channels.
    Especially during the day. Life is too short.
    BBC4 is great.
    Looked at the schedule. The Night Manager is good but I've seen it already and as for the rest, meh. All of the above is only a personal opinion though.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2021

    elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
    Can recommend avoiding War & Peace and Ulysses if you find reading the guardian hard work.
  • elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
    Can recommend avoiding War & Peace and Ulysses if you find reading the guardian hard work.
    "hard work " to me means it is hard to understand by contrast The Guardian needs each article to be shortened by 50-75%
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,918

    elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
    Can recommend avoiding War & Peace and Ulysses if you find reading the guardian hard work.
    Definitely avoid the second epilogue of war and peace. If only they had a character limit for epilogues.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
    Can recommend avoiding War & Peace and Ulysses if you find reading the guardian hard work.
    Definitely avoid the second epilogue of war and peace. If only they had a character limit for epilogues.
    The first book, War is fine. It's exciting with battles and stuff, but don't bother with book 2, Peace. I mean who wants to read about that after the excitement of War. If anything, he should have reversed the order, build up the tension....



    Shamelessly paraphrased from The Unbelievable Truth, or was it the News Quiz? Can't remember.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,918
    I have a theory that all long books should end a chapter or two sooner e.g. War and Peace, Lord of the Rings. The author simply can't put the pen down.
  • elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    So on the "what is the strategy post-brexit" question, there's a lot to agree with in this approach and assessment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report

    I do struggle with the Guardian and think that all of it's articles could do with editing but this one could have ended after the first 15 words (for TBB I counted the hyphen as one word but am entirely open to count it as two and so should read "first 16 words")

    Britain will fail if it seeks to reincarnate itself after Brexit as a mini-great power
    Have you ever read the comments below articles (when they're open). They'll all contain criticism of the editing and 9/10 about the sub-eds headline misrepresenting what the article is actually saying.
    LOL - I honestly don't think I have ever finished an article, they really feel like they have been written by an intern being paid by the word.
    Can recommend avoiding War & Peace and Ulysses if you find reading the guardian hard work.
    Definitely avoid the second epilogue of war and peace. If only they had a character limit for epilogues.
    The first book, War is fine. It's exciting with battles and stuff, but don't bother with book 2, Peace. I mean who wants to read about that after the excitement of War. If anything, he should have reversed the order, build up the tension....



    Shamelessly paraphrased from The Unbelievable Truth, or was it the News Quiz? Can't remember.
    Could cut other books down to get rid of the dull bits - a tale of one city, Sensibility, Mr Hyde etc.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Having to check the website you're buying from ships from the UK when online shopping is a new source of fun eh..?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,423

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is there a new estimate of what proportion of the exports to the EU it actually does cover? With the knowledge gained since it came into force?

    Around 42% according to this:
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/#:~:text=A%20surplus%20of%20%C2%A383,to%20the%20EU%20in%202019.
    Thanks, so it doesn't cover the 42% that is services - that's a larger number than I expected, to be honest.

    The other bit is what proportion of the 58% does it turn out not to cover?
    I corrected myself in a subsequent post.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is there a new estimate of what proportion of the exports to the EU it actually does cover? With the knowledge gained since it came into force?

    Around 42% according to this:
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/#:~:text=A%20surplus%20of%20%C2%A383,to%20the%20EU%20in%202019.
    Thanks, so it doesn't cover the 42% that is services - that's a larger number than I expected, to be honest.

    The other bit is what proportion of the 58% does it turn out not to cover?
    I corrected myself in a subsequent post.
    Was a useful link anyway :)
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,423

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
    The operative word in the article is 'world'.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,423
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Stevo_666 said:

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
    The operative word in the article is 'world'.
    That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,423

    Stevo_666 said:

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
    The operative word in the article is 'world'.
    That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.
    I'm making a different point, as I'm sure you're aware :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
    The operative word in the article is 'world'.
    That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.
    I'm making a different point, as I'm sure you're aware :smile:
    Yes but my point trumps your point because I made the point in the first place.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,423

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak: The City could be set for a post-Brexit Big Bang 2.0

    In a candid interview with City A.M., the Chancellor also pushed back against criticism of the UK’s trade deal with the European Union, saying that it should “reassure” businesses about the relationship between the City and the bloc.

    But he says the real priority is to “get on and make sure that the City of London remains the most dynamic place to do financial services anywhere in the world” and that the Treasury would look to “play a role” in giving the financial services industry a boost.


    https://www.cityam.com/chancellor-the-city-could-be-set-for-a-post-brexit-big-bang-2-0/

    Gawd, they will be knocking on Fred Goodwins door next.
    The operative word in the article is 'world'.
    That's true, RBS became the biggest bank in the World in terms of assets.
    I'm making a different point, as I'm sure you're aware :smile:
    Yes but my point trumps your point because I made the point in the first place.
    If you like. 'Trumps' doesn't have the most positive connotations these days.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]